The 640 MEG Shareware Studio 5/The 640 Meg Shareware Studio CD-ROM Volume V (Data Express)(1994).ISO/fidomail/cdrom.005

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signal...
  If you need the # let me know, it should be in your manual though.

Bill

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From: BILL KENDALL                           Number: 5757
  To: RON STONE                                Date: 05/28/94  8:39p
Subj: Re: Sound blaster, nec 3x               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Ron Stone to All <=-

 RS> I am interested in getting a CD-rom and have 2 questions.
 RS> 1. What CD-roms can I connect to the sound blaster pro card?

 RS> 2. A salesman in a computer store told me that the NEC 3xi won't be
 RS> any faster than a double speed because there isn't any software
 RS> for it.  This sounds like bull to me because I figure the cd's
 RS> speed isn't dependent on software.  Which is true?

     It's true, the software needs to support 3X...there's still some CD's
out there that are single speed only.


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From: VOLKER MEYER                           Number: 5758
  To: ELLIOTT SMITH                            Date: 05/26/94  9:30a
Subj: Re: kings quest vi on cd                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RA> Can you pls provide me info where to get said hint files?
 RA> Thank you in advance.

 ES> Ummmm, gee I can hardly remember now, but I *THINK* I'm

The manual to KQ6 contains some numbers where you can get some hints. =:)

Volker.
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From: MIKE NESTRUD                           Number: 5759
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/94  2:29p
Subj: Working?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Here's a message to see if FidoNet's working on my bbs... so someone won't
get mad here's something that EVERYBODY who has a cd-rom should do.
ADD THE /E OPTION TO MSCDEX IN YOUR AUTOEXEC.BAT
That will force mscdex to use expanded or extended memory, and therefore
greatly increase your amount of available memory in dos.  Hope i have helped,
as i have seen MANY messages in this conference regarding memory problems w/
cd-rom drivers.

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From: PETER PRASAD                           Number: 5760
  To: DU LAM                                   Date: 05/28/94  1:09p
Subj: Re: cd-rom & sound card                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Du Lam to All <=-

 DL> Hi everyone, I bought a cd-rom Mitsumi model FX001D double speed (
 DL> internal) and a sound blaster 16 basic.  The sound card has a socket
 DL> for cd-rom interface cable, but if I plug to the sound card instead of
 DL> to the cd-rom card, my computer does not see my cd-rom? What should I
 DL> do ?

      The Mitsumi CD ROM has a proprietry interface, thats why they come with
      a controller card for their drives, it will only work with those.


 Is it possible to connect the cd-rom cable to both cd-rom
 DL> interface card and the sound blaster? Please help me out thanks...
     This is a no no, however it is possiable to plug the audio output
     from your CD ROM to the SB basic and have the audio output, you may
     require a special cable for that, see your owners manuale.

     Peter
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5761
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/29/94  7:10p
Subj: ENOUGH ALREADY                          Refer: 5677
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  Also, CDROM_SALE has been in existance for WELL under a year, and ha
-> the Backbone for very few months - most folks that carry CDROM don't
-> have picked up CDROM_SALE yet....

Actually, CDROM_SALE has been around for about a year and a half...
It's been on the BACKBONE for about a year.

tim
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From: MARTIN POTTER                          Number: 5762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/94  8:28a
Subj: HELP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody know anything about the Turtle Beach Multisound card?  How much is
it worth and can the sound cable from a CD-ROM drive be hooked up to it?

Thanks in advance,
Martin

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From: GEORGINA MARTINEZ                      Number: 5763
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  3:31p
Subj: Software Vault Emerald                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know where to find the new Software Vault Emerald?

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 5764
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/26/94  9:30p
Subj: TOSHIBA SCSI CDROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Toshiba XM-3201B CDROM Drive  !! NEW !!

  Includes Caddy and Manual.  325ms access, 156k transfer rate.
  30 day warranty.  Work great.  MPC standard compliant.  True
  Standard SCSI Interface (not proprietary).  Dip switches for
  ID setting and parity/arbitration.  Internal 5.25 Half Height
  1.5 Meg Sec Burst.
  ..$130.00  Only 2 left.

205-837-5053 voice
205-721-0189 fax


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From: ROSS PARKER                            Number: 5765
  To: ADAM LOTZ                                Date: 05/26/94  7:11p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 12...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AL> (Oh, and BTW: So when is Night Owl going to learn to clean up their
AL> act??? Take a look at the disc... in an hour and a half of playing with
AL> it, I found 1  commercial program, 1 "hacked" shareware program, and
AL> the names of quite a few  different notorious-for-software-piracy
AL> groups throughout the files... YEESH!)

Could you post the names of the programs you found please?
Thanks in advance!
Ross

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From: DARREN YAN                             Number: 5766
  To: KOEN ROUSSEAU                            Date: 05/25/94  7:55p
Subj: Sam & Max                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Koen.

KR>Does anybody know when Sam & Max will be released on CD-rom ? Overhere in
KR>Belgium I still haven't seen it. Is it already available on the other side o
KR>the big blue ocean (well, it WAS blue once ;-) ? It must be one of the great
KR>adventures of all time (most of LucasArts' are), but I will not be temped to
KR>play the speechless disk version, since I know what great fun it is to have
KR>does dazzling dialogs spoken out to you (Day of the Tentacle must be the
KR>funniest game ever, mostly thankx to those voices)...

From what I know, Koen, the CD full talkie version is already out over
there.



Signing off for now, Darren Yan
(Ang Mo Kio New Town, Republic of Singapore)

Internet : [e-mail]
FidoNet  : 6:600/203

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From: DARREN YAN                             Number: 5767
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/25/94  7:58p
Subj: Best Encycopedia CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi !

Anyone here wants to recommend a good encyclopedia CD ?  I've heard of
the Microsoft Encrta (I hope I got the spelling right !).  What else is
there in the market ?



Signing off for now, Darren Yan
(Ang Mo Kio New Town, Republic of Singapore)

Internet : [e-mail]
FidoNet  : 6:600/203

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From: CARLOS PISANI                          Number: 5768
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/27/94  9:30p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT EMERALD!                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-=≡[ Quotando Mike Shannon para All ]≡=-

 Hi Mike!!!How area you? :)

 MS> SOFTWARE VAULT EMERALD * The ONLY all-1994 shareware CD!

 I want this cd!Use the card number that I sent you...I also want "Cream of
 the Crop III"...

 Thanx for the cd's (Shareware Studio IV etc), I received them today (27)!

  []s,

 -==[ PiSaNi ]==-

... Por trás de um homem triste há sempre uma mulher feliz...  []s,
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From: ROBERT MINVIELLE                       Number: 5769
  To: GARY HILBERT                             Date: 05/27/94  5:40p
Subj: DOOM                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gary Hilbert wrote in a message to Seth Kanter:
SK> How do I play new doom levels that I download. I have 6 new wad files
  >but no idea what to do with them omce I unzip them.Thanks for the help
GH> doom -devparm -file xxxxxxxx.wad

  This is WAY off topic, and Im budding in...but this is Kewl...
  try doom -devparm -extratics=1 gives a line of dots in the left
  lower corner of ya screen showing CPU usage...but you may have
  known this already.

  Do you know where I could freq a driver for OS/2 for a NEC CDR-55JD?
  (Im figurin' others will read this... ;-}

 You Got The BFG9000! OH, Yes!
           Robert

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From: ROBERT MINVIELLE                       Number: 5770
  To: JIM KEHO                                 Date: 05/27/94  5:47p
Subj: DOOM CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JIM KEHO wrote in a message to ROBERT MINVIELLE:
-> JK> Jim Keho
-> JK> 7810 W. Peoria #52
-> JK> Peoria, AZ. 85345-1026
JK>  A check or money order is fine! Thanks!

   You got it man...it will be in the mail tomorrow (05/28/94).
   The postal service will be "down" mon for memorial day...so
   it should be later next week. Thanks!!!!


   You Got The BFG9000! Oh, Yes!
                            Robert

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From: MERLE COLDWELL                         Number: 5771
  To: DAVID BAIRD                              Date: 05/27/94 10:27p
Subj: CD Door                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Scott,
        I use EZ-ROM and am extremely happy about it. I have 2 CD drives in
which I rotate about 20 CDs (almost daily!). So at any given time I have at
least two(2) online! Therefore, given EZ-ROMs capabilities, users can D/L from
the two currently online and/or put in requests from ANY of the offline disks
as well! Very easy to set up! and I will help you if you want it for setting up
batches to rotate your menus and active disks. Just ask nice<grin>
        Now, I'm having a real problem with a door called Shopkeeper +. The
support line says my problem CAN'T exist. It just hangs on a user and drops
them! I have set it up both as a door and a DOS hook (same results). If I start
it from the the DOS level, it works great! If I call in to the BBS and drop to
DOS, it works great! As a DOS hook or a door I can't use it. Anyone reading
this have any ideas??? Helllllp!
Merle
P.S. I think the EZROM reg was $25.00 and the author netmailed my key!!

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From: RYAN FLETCHER                          Number: 5772
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94 11:40a
Subj: Int. CD-out                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone sell an internal audio cable for the Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive that can
be used with the CD pins on the Gravis UltraSound?  Thanks.

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From: ROBERT ZELLERS                         Number: 5773
  To: RAYMOND FERNANDEZ                        Date: 05/28/94  6:18a
Subj: Re: Cd Titles Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to ALL <05-14-94 11:22> RAYMOND FERNANDEZ wrote:

RF>                               All Titles 13.95
RF> Sakura @
RF> La Traviata @
RF> Sweet Summer  @!!
RF> Insatiable Woman  @!

What kind of deal for someone buying 4?? Include shipping.

... Since GOD spelled backwards is DOG, is my poodle Satan?
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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 5774
  To: B.J. HEATH                               Date: 05/28/94  6:18a
Subj: CD's for sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > selling; A Sound Blaster Pro w/ speakers, too!
   Model No? Price? 716-881-6430 (EST-Bflo, NY) available 5 PM -11 PM

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From: TIMOTHY ROY                            Number: 5775
  To: SAM LEE                                  Date: 05/28/94  6:21a
Subj: 7th guest help!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->       I read your mail to John Mason about 'The 7th Guest'. Have you
->       finished the game? I still can't solve the puzzle in the
->       toilet(horse) and the one inside the microscope. Could you tell
->       me how to solve them?

   You don't need to solve the microscope puzzle.  It's more for your
entertainment.  It's just an adaptation of the arcade game Attaxx (sp?). You
can leave the lab by going through the cell.  Solving the puzzle gets you
nothing.  I haven't worked on the Knight puzzle yet, though I have the book.
If I read it to tell you how, it'll spoil it for me.


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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5776
  To: JONO GREENE                              Date: 05/27/94  3:22p
Subj: Re: RRR6.00 cd-roms                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JG> -=> Quoting Geoffrey Cylwik to Jono Greene <=-

JG> JG> -=> Quoting Geoffrey Cylwik to All <=-
JG>
JG> JG> GC> PrintShop Deluxe For Windows......35.00
JG>
JG> JG>Geoffrey,
JG> JG>        Will offer you AUD $50 for it and will pay
JG> JG>shipping, give me a message
JG> JG>if this suits, and then we'll get down to the addreses and
JG>stuff.
JG> JG>        Thanx,
JG> JG>                Jono

JG> GC> I may be Crazy, or stupid, but what does "AUD" mean?

JG>        Mate you gotta think about where the message was sent
JG>from. I am from  Australia and so AUD means Australian Dollars.
JG>$50 australian = $35 US        Hope it's still OK, look forward to
JG>a response.                Jono

JG>... ..The worst thing about censorship is
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please include proper shipping and we got a deal.
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5777
  To: RON STONE                                Date: 05/27/94  3:30p
Subj: Sound Blaster, Nec 3Xi                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RS>I am interested in getting a CD-rom and have 2 questions.
RS>  1. What CD-roms can I connect to the sound blaster pro card?

Panasonic 40 pin can be connected to pro sound blaster.

Multi CD can connect sony, mitsumi, and panasonic.

RS>  2. A salesman in a computer store told me that the NEC 3xi won't
RS>be     any faster than a double speed because there isn't any
RS>software for     it.  This sounds like bull to me because I figure
RS>the cd's speed     isn't dependent on software.  Which is true?

Believe it or not,  it's true.  most software titles can't utilize the
triple speed advantage.  But when a game come out that needs it,
triple spin will have its day.

Hope this has been of some help to you.

:->

Geoff
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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 5778
  To: JOHN HART                                Date: 05/28/94  1:16p
Subj: $4.75 CD-ROMS!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Or you can send me your address, and I'll ship COD.


   Oh good! Jumping in on previous conversation. Can you please
   ship COD to me at:

   c/o Michael Amati, 19 Arlington Pk., Bflo., NY 14201-1318

   You should still have my list of wants, I just answered a
   message from you yesterday. You said that WAYZATA was still available
   so add that to the other 3. Thanx. Let me know when/how shipped
   and I'll make sure the cash is here for delivery in case I am at work.

   Marlina

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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5779
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 05/28/94 11:53a
Subj: CD's for sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF>Rebel Assault is the game that came from the Star Wars series, it
SF>has great graphics and great sound and play! Would like $35 plus
SF>shipping or trade???

I'd like to get this from you.  What did you have in way of a cash and
trade idea?
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5780
  To: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN                       Date: 05/28/94 12:02p
Subj: WordPerfect SIXO                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH>I have WordPerfect SIXO for Windows on CD-ROM for sale.
CH>Asking for $90 delivered.  If interested please reply here.

CH>... Catch the Blue Wave!
CH>
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CH>(1:2200/213.0)

i might be interested.  Does it include docs?  is it registered?  is
it LEGAL?  what is the main difference between the disk version and
the CD-ROM one?

thanks,

geoffrey cylwik
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5781
  To: ED BOTWINIK                              Date: 05/28/94 12:05p
Subj: CD Rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>  Thought I'd ask here on recommendations for a new ROM drive.
EB>What  should I be looking for?  Helped a few friends install them,
EB>but they  already had what they wanted so I wasn't in on the
EB>comparisons.

Definitley get scsi.  this will ensure that your controller, at least,
won't be obsolete in a few years.  you can always upgrade. a pro-audio
spectrum 16 with a scsi interface is always a good bet.  wait about
three months until the quads come out, if you can.

hope this helps,

geoffrey cylwik


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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5782
  To: MIKE MULLIGAN                            Date: 05/28/94 12:12p
Subj: Game Blaster Cd 16                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM>How good is the Games Blaster CD 16 combo, does anyone out there
MM>have it?  I would like to get a CD-rom soon and saw this offer for
MM>the above for $379, what do you all think?  How good is the CD
MM>drive?  Is it reliable?  Well any and all help concerning CD-roms
MM>would be great, I don't know anything about them!

MM> * QMPro 1.51 * Where there's a WHIP, there's a WAY!!!
MM>---
MM> * Origin: "Analog Man" San Diego, Ca [phone] (1:202/1601)

NO! definitely get a media vision because ALL of their drives are scsi
and include the controller.  the fusion kit, for example, includes the
pro-audio spectrum 16 with a scsi interface.  scsi lets you upgrade in
the future without having to pay for ANOTHER controller card.  The
media drives are also FASTER than creative labs.  I saw a media vision
kit this past weekend at Comp-USA for about $429.00.  Spend this extra
fifty bucks and ensure yourself YEARS of upgradability.

Hope that helped :->,

Geoffrey Cylwik
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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 5783
  To: ROBERT MINVIELLE                         Date: 05/28/94 10:14a
Subj: Re: DOOM CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RM>You got it man...it will be in the mail tomorrow (05/28/94).
OK Dude! <g>  I'll send it as it arrives!! Thanks!


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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 5784
  To: BILL KENDALL                             Date: 05/28/94 10:16a
Subj: Re: Hell cab for trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Bill, How's it going!  I already had Hell Cab, but if you have any others I
have a couple of shareware CD's.. I won't turn cash down either! <g>.. Here's
the CD's I have right now..
Mad Dog McCree w/docs/no box...$22.00 shipped
Microsoft Bookshelf 1991 w/docs$17.00 shipped
Microsoft Cinemania '94 w/docs....$28.00 shipped
Word Tales (ages 4-7) w/docs/box/reg.card.$23.00 shipped
Significant Series (Shareware 1993 Windows)..$14.00 shipped
Shareware Breakthrough (1993 Windows)........$10.00 shipped
And also these;
 For Sale:CD ROM's! YOU name the price, and I'll let you know if it's
 OK, not enough or too much! <g>, and please add $1.50 for shipping!
 OR if you have other CD's to trade, Let me know!
 * King's Quest V MPC (Windows) unopened CDRom
 * Software Toolworks World Atlas v3.2 MPC (Windows) unopened CDRom
 * Stellar 7 unopened CDRom
 * DOOM Knee Deep In The Dead Episode One unopened CDRom **HOLD**
 * PC Karaoke Classic Oldies (Windows) unopened CDRom ***HOLD***
 * Wayzata World Factbook 1993 (Windows) CDRom
 Note: The above are 'bundled' versions that I don't want/need, No
 box, Only a doc sheet and vinyl sleeve! Most include an upgrade or
 special offer coupon too! Just ask if you need more info about any!
 >> Shipping $1.50 <> Jim (602)-486-9869 or reply here! <<



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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 5785
  To: JAMES DOMENGEAUX                         Date: 05/28/94 10:24a
Subj: Re: Cd's For Sale Or Trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Noticed you were interested in a MS Bookshelf??
I have a 1991 Microsoft Bookshelf w/docs... $17.00 shipped!
Reply here or Jim (602)-486-9869


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From: CRAIG WANG                             Number: 5786
  To: TONY QUACH                               Date: 05/29/94  1:00p
Subj: Re: cd-rom games for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> yeah, i'm interested in MYST and MEGARACE...call me [phone],
-> the name is Tony Quach...thanks...

I have MegaRace CD forsale, $25 plus shipping.

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From: THOMAS EGGER                           Number: 5787
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/26/94  6:04p
Subj: Cdrom - Super - Bundle                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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       320ms Zugriff, 300k Transfer , Installationsmatrial & Video
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
      The New Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia - by Software Toolworks
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
               Front Page Sports Football Pro - by Dynamix
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
                     Iron Helix - by Spectrum Holobyte
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
          Yearn 2 Learn Peanuts Coloring Book - by Image Smith
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
                        Return to Zork - by Actvision
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
                    The Software Toolworks Star Wars Chess
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
                    Strike Commander - by Orgini Systems
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
                     Wing Commander II (Deluxe Edition)
               Vengeance of the Kilrathi - by Orgini Systems
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
                      The 7th Guest - by Virgin Games
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
      Dr T`s Sing-A-Long Kid`s Classics - by Dr. T`s Music Software
                           ***  + + + + + + + ***
                   King`s Quest VI - by Sierra On-Line

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From: RICK SULMAN                            Number: 5788
  To: RICK NAY                                 Date: 05/26/94  7:18a
Subj: Sony Double Speed                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo Rick!

 RN> And when a disk is in the cd-rom drive it is
 RN> always spinning.

Any idea why the drive always spinns when a CD is loaded?

Greetz,
Rick          => PGP-key available <=

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From: RAINER VONSALESKI                      Number: 5789
  To: ANDREW BARNHARDT                         Date: 05/29/94  8:58p
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Well, you could put in back in the plastic bag when your done, that doesn't
> sound like too much trouble to me.  I guess putting them in Ziploc bags (the
> stronger ones made of heavier plastic) wouldn't be a bad idea either.

It's not a question of "too much trouble" -- it's a question of how to protect
the disc while still keeping it handy.  Do you really store your CD-ROMs in a
pile of Ziploc bags?  That's hard to believe ...

I'll probably opt for buying empty jewel cases locally, and cutting out part of
the cardboard box to make a cover.  Do you have any good suggestions for
alternative ways of protecting and keeping handy a bunch of CD-ROMs?

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From: RAINER VONSALESKI                      Number: 5790
  To: MICHAEL CROFTCHECK                       Date: 05/29/94  9:08p
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Many of the discs I've gotten at discount or O.E.M. have come in the tyvek
> sleeves.  What do I do to protect them after that?  I go to Wal-Mart and by
> the jewel cases for $1.99, then I have two extras for the next time I buy
> discounted CD's.

Thanks for the reply!
Do the "more expensive" (say, $15 and up) disks also come packaged in just a
sleeve?  Or, where is the dividing line?  Somehow I would expect the jewel case
to be the norm for a "standard" offering.

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From: ROBERT FIELDS                          Number: 5791
  To: JC-QWK                                   Date: 05/29/94 12:55p
Subj: Add                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5792
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  1:49p
Subj: !659 Cd's $25 or less!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-DISC SALE...
OS/2 Hobbes $13.05                     $5.00 FedEx shipping (domestic)
Shareware Studio 4 $16.00              $5.00 C.O.D.'s WELCOME!
NightOwl 12 $22.00, Cream of the Crop 3 $22,
>659 CD-ROM titles $25.00 or less!  To order discs or catalog contact:
>FilReq: CDLIST.zip or majic word CONFIG for over 2,200 CD-Titles
Joe Rinehart, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240.0001, or
voice:216.296.4446, voice:216.296.9831, DATA/FAX: [phone] - 24hrs
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE 1.800.6.CONFIG=1800.626.6344 24HRS

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5793
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  1:49p
Subj: $22.00 Cream of the crop                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       >>>>>>>>>>>"CREAM OF THE CROP III" only $22.00<<<<<<<<<<
     You've been reading about it & now's your chance to get it!
     The hottest selling shareware CD-ROM title available.  We've
never had a return on previous versions, as it is guaranteed to be
compatible for your system.  SATISFACTION 100% GUARANTEED!
IN-STOCK & SHIPPING DAILY around 5:00pm EST!
IMMEDIATE SHIPPING via FedEX Economy $5.00, Next day $7.00, COD$5.00
To order contact: Joe, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, OH 44240
Internet: [e-mail], Fido: 1:157/479, BBS: 216.296.2244, or our
>NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE: 1-800-6CONFIG (1.800.626.6344)

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  1:49p
Subj: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:  2@2659
Satisfaction guaranteed....
            ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)  24HOURS 7DAYS

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 5795
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 05/28/94 12:35p
Subj: Trade or Not                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Mad Dog McCree, Wing Commander II DLX, Links

 Hi Robert
 If you are still interested in my games:  Star Trek,  SpaceQuest IV , and
 LHX Attack Chopper. Then i will be willing to trade them for the above...
 let me know here, And a best time to call you..
 I have your phone #..
 This will be my last reply.....
 later jose

... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave!
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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 5796
  To: JOE D. LEE                               Date: 05/28/94  4:05a
Subj: Re: General Protection Fa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe D. Lee to All <=-

 JDL> I have been having serious problems ever since I installed a CD-ROM
 JDL> on my Magnavox 386. I cannot even run the Double Fusion LX Tour or any
 JDL> of my CDs. I keep getting a message - DBLF109F caused a General
 JDL> Protection Fualt in module KRNL286.EXE at 0001:38CA.  The name of the
 JDL> file and the location changes from time to time. The computer locks up
 JDL> and I have to bebbot4 reboot. I had two conversiataions with the
 JDL> technicaL support people to no avail. One guy suggested I get a
 JDL> shareware product called GWPATCH.EXE. At this point, I am even unable
 JDL> to run some of my non-Windows stuff, including Telix. So I am using
 JDL> Windows Terminal for the first time. I would appreciate feedback from
 JDL> others more knowledgeable than myself. My computer was working fine
 JDL> until I installed this CD-ROM . Now it is operating so erratically, I
 JDL> don;t know what it will do next. Can anyone givwe me a clue.    --Joe
General Protection Faults are caused by two programs trying to use the same
piece of memory.  Finding the cause is VERY tricky and time-consuming.
You should be able to run Telix from DOS (IE, NOT from the DOS prompt in
Windows)  See if the problem persists if you are running in 386Enh mode
instead of Standard (which provides better protection against GPF's)
Otherwise, you are down the the process described in another response to
this message.  Finally, double-check port addresses, IRQ settings, and
DMA channels, to make sure that you have not used the same resource for
two devices.



... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: B.J. HEATH                             Number: 5797
  To: MARLINA MALONEY                          Date: 05/29/94  5:45p
Subj: Sound Blaster Pro Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
Thanks for the reply!

MM> > selling; A Sound Blaster Pro w/ speakers, too!
MM>   Model No? Price? 716-881-6430 (EST-Bflo, NY) available 5 PM -11 PM

The front of the box says SBP-2B.  Is that what you want?  Make me an
offer...

Also, just to make sure this is perfectly clear...this is a SB Pro
Basic.  It has the CD-ROM Interface and the MIDI Interface, but, no MIDI
cables included.  Box includes:  Sounder Blaster Pro Card, RCA Audio
Cable, a Getting Started Manual and on the 3 1/5" diskette - Voice Editor
II, FM Intelligent Organ, CD Music Player, MMPLAY Presenter, DOS Drivers
and Windows 3.1 Drivers, SB MIDI - A MIDI file Driver, SBSIM - A SB Standard
Programming Tool and SBTALKER - Text-to-Speech Software.
Bye for now...
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a
---
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny.


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From: FRED WYATT                             Number: 5798
  To: GARY NEWMAN                              Date: 05/26/94  7:31p
Subj: FILE MENU                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I CAN NOT ACCESS ANY FILE AREAS OR UPLOAD FILES, I KEEP GETTING "I CAN'T
UNDERSTAND" WHAT GIVES??????
A REPLY WOULD BE MUCHLY APPRECIATED
ANOTHER THING HOW OFTEN DO YOU DO YOUR BBS MAINTENANCE?

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5799
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 05/29/94  4:16p
Subj: CD's for sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Geoffrey,
    Well I wanted $35 plus shipping or maybe a disc in trade and some
cash to make up for the balance! What discs do you have to trade? Please
leave me a list<G>

                   Thanks,
                        Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5800
  To: CHARLIE STRAKER                          Date: 05/29/94  4:18p
Subj: Re: Games for sale or tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Charlie,
    Give me a list of what ya have to trade, I kinda want $35 plus $4
shipping or maybe a trade or some sort of a disc and some cash<G>

         Thanks,
              Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5801
  To: JOHN ASHCRAFT                            Date: 05/29/94  4:20p
Subj: CD's for sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John,
    Yeah I'll take Carmen Deluxe for Comptons 91!

    Well send it to me at:

    Sam Figueroa
    Sam's Software
    Rt 2 Box 2453-A
    Manchester, TN 37355

    Does it have manuals and whatever else it comes with!

              Thanks,
              Sam Figueroa
Leave me an address in the shipping! Write me to confirm that the disc
has been sent to me!

              Thanks again

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From: JERRY THOMSON                          Number: 5802
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/27/94  9:07p
Subj: Phone Cd's In Stock!                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

*** Quoting Jerry Thomson to Mike Shannon dated 05-23-94 ***
> *** Quoting Mike Shannon to Jerry Thomson dated 05-21-94 ***
> > JT:>>  SELECTPHONE
> > JT:>> 1994..................................................$167.70
> >  SELECTPHONE * The new 1994 release from the ProPhone people, now has
> >  millions of updated and brand new listings, making it one of the
> most
> >  current directories available.  Every white page directory in the
> U.S.
> >  is included!  REVERSE search lets you select listings by name, area
> > code,
> >  zip code, phone number, address, city, state, business heading, or
> SIC
> >  code.  Over 80-million residential and business listings with
> complete
> >  addresses that can also be downloaded for bulk mailings.  Includes
> > FREE
> >  upgrade to next version!  4 CD's


    Hi Mike..  I am going to order the Select Phone from you.  But, I there
will be a new release called 2Q coming out in 2 weeks according to the Author.
I was able to get a reply from him on CIS and I will put it in the message
below for you to read so that you will know what to get for me.

    Mike, please let me know as soon as you get this new Select Phone 2Q
release via this echo and also netmail in case I don't get it here on fido.
My fido address is 1:2202/5

    Ok, here is the reply I got from CIS for both you and everyone to read.  I
am really excited about some of the new features in this 2Q release as you will
read below:


#: 83391 S2/Titles & New Prods  [CDROM]
    26-May-94  13:55:57
Sb: #83043-Select Phone
Fm: Jim Bryant / Pro CD, Inc 71754,3026
To: Jerry Thomson 75530,1417

There are no limits to the number of listings you can export to a printer or
file with Select Phone.

When ordering be sure to specify the 1994 2Q Release, scheduled to ship in 2
weeks. This new edition will include a map link feature that will allow you
also display an unlmited number of slected records on a map of the US. You can
for example visualize a list of all of the Jerry Thomson's on a US map or
better yet a list of all of your customers.

The 2nd Quarter edition will also include over 27 million new business and
residential listings, resulting in the best release we will have shipped to
date. We have also added Zip +4 to all of the records with valid addresses and
provided the ability to search or sort by Zip+4. There is also a filter that
allows you to export selected ranges of listings that contain zip +4 addresses
(this will increase the delivery rate of any mailings you might do with the
listings as all of the Zip + 4 listings have deliverable addresses.) The new
Windows edition 2.0 contains alot of other new features that will enable you
to better use directory listings.

For more info, feel free to contact our customer service line 800-99CD-ROM
[phone].

Jim Bryant
Pro CD, Inc. (publishers of Select Phone, Canada Phone, Australia Phone, Free
Phone, Direct Phone)


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From: JERRY THOMSON                          Number: 5803
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/27/94  9:15p
Subj: Select Phone                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

PS; almost forgot to tell you.  The reason I am not going to price shop is due
to you doing a lot of leg work for me in giving me a long description of all
the features of the different phone disks.  I appreciate your going the extra
mile..

Jerry

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From: RICHARD                                Number: 5804
  To: MIDNIGHT                                 Date: 05/29/94  7:41p
Subj: Comment 05/29/94 4:59pm                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Richard,
->    Lately, when I try to get onto the door game Usurper, it says it i
-> saving the caller info and loading a door, but then freezes up. If i
-> it again (recalling and re-logging) it lets me in sometimes and other
-> times I can't get in at all.



As of today new USURPER!!! and next week it will be registered.
Let me know if you have any problems.


         Richard


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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 5805
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94 10:10p
Subj: Free Money!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For trade:

   Cinemania '93
   Microcosm (2cd's)
   Critical Path
   Return to Zork
   Iron Helix

Looking for:

Tortoise and Hare
New KId on the Block
Gabriel Knight
JFK Encyclopedia
  Or anything else you can think of that I might want.

E-mail here or call 809-293-5375



------------------------------------------------ Mike
 * Wave Rider 1.20 # 367 *
... Beep! Invalid Input.  I take only cash....
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 5806
  To: BRIAN JOHNSON                            Date: 05/29/94 10:34p
Subj: Quick Time files                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then it happened......Brian Johnson says...
BJ>I know they have quick time files on CD-ROM's so I was wondering if
BJ>anybody who uses this message area could help me. How do you view a
BJ>Quick-Time file?

  Once you have loaded the Quicktime For Windows (Unless you are speaking
of a MAC) you run them just like Video for Windows. I use the Media player
and select QTW as the Device. They play the same as a VFW.
Hope that answered your question!



------------------------------------------------ Mike
 * Wave Rider 1.20 # 367 *
... Blow ye winds, like the trumpet blows!  But without that noise.
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From: STEPHEN WILLIAMS                       Number: 5807
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94 12:48p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone tell me which adult cdrom would be good to run on a BBS?  I am
getting a few cdroms and I am looking for good cdrom titles.  Thanks for you
help.

Steve
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From: JOHN ALLISON                           Number: 5808
  To: GEORGE MANOLIS                           Date: 05/29/94  3:26p
Subj: MYST Help                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

As I said this is very tricky but the note count I have given you is correct
and once you have set them if it does not work try changing 1 up or down on
each slider. Or find a friend who has a musical ear to try and match the tones
but my solution was the key count method.
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From: LARRY GOFORTH                          Number: 5809
  To: ANDREW MCCALLISTER                       Date: 05/29/94  2:13p
Subj: which one                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew Mccallister to All <=-

 AM> Well I'm sure this question has been asked a lot but I'm in the
 AM> market to buy a CD-ROM drive and would like to get a well supported
 AM> and fast drive. Are teh Toshiba 3401 and NEC triple-speed still the
 AM> best cost-effective drives? Thanks

I believe so, expecially the Toshibas now that you can buy them at about
$319.



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From: LARRY GOFORTH                          Number: 5810
  To: JON HOLMAN                               Date: 05/29/94  2:16p
Subj: cd rom help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jon Holman to Jeff Gregoire <=-

 JG>I bought my computer with a cd rom. I extended the memory to 8mg but my
 JG>computer didnt seem to be using the memory. A friend suggested using
qemm386
 JG>memory manager to fix the problem. When I dumped emm386 for the qemm in
some
 JG>has screwed up my cd rom. My computer now acts as if it isnt there. How do
i
 JG>make sure my computer knows its there? I reloaded the cd rom driver but
that
 JG>didnt help.

Be sure your mscdex and smartdrv.exe are loading in proper sequence with mscdex
having proper switches.



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From: LARRY GOFORTH                          Number: 5811
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/29/94  2:20p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITTANICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Eilko Bronsema <=-

 >how much costs the Encyclopedia Brittannica on cdrom?

 BF> It doesn't exist for sale at this time. I suspect that Britannica is
 BF> waiting for the (currently in the labs only) blue laser CD-ROM stuff to
 BF> hit the streets, so they can cram everything onto 1 CD-ROM.


World Book does have one though.



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From: JOHN FRANKS                            Number: 5812
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/94 12:49p
Subj: Cdrom drive and more!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For Sale:

       Sony External CDROM w/cables,drivers,and controller....225.00

       Genstar Int. CDROM w/cables,drivers,and controller.....140.00

       Phillips Int. CDROM w/cables,drivers,and controller....130.00

       Relisys 14" EGA Monitor w/512k card....................110.00

       SyQuest 20 meg Cart.Drives..............................25.00ea

       Chips Super Math Coprocessor 387DX40....................50.00

       Seagate ST157-A 48meg IDE HDD...........................60.00

       Multi I/O Game/Parallel/2 Serial Ports..................14.50

       Panasonic 1.44meg FDD (laptop I think)..................10.00

       Pioneer Kicker Box 100watt Speakers 2 way...............90.00pr

       JVC Cassette Deck Model KD-65 Super ANRS................65.00

       RCA Select a Vision VHS VCR.............................65.00

       Symphonic VHS VCR (needs belts).........................40.00

  Open to offers.Most all units come with full documentation.
  All CDROMS are multi media ready!
  Call John @ 505-281-8157 after 7 pm MDT
      Mobile: [phone]am-7pm    MDT

  Internet: [e-mail] ; [e-mail]
  America Online: JJFranksIV ; Compu$erve: 72124,2052
---
 * JJFIV 1.0 * Who is General Failure and why is he reading my drive?

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From: SEAN HEBER                             Number: 5813
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  1:21a
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HELP!!  I have the Zork Hint book and all the answers keep on saying
that you have to put on the Dwarvin Miners Helmet. (Where is THAT AT!??)
I read the whole book and didn't see any clue as to where it is.

Thanks for the help.
  (I need straight forward answers please, I can never figure out clues)

 SuperMAN!!!
 -----------


... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!"
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5814
  To: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN                       Date: 05/30/94  2:54a
Subj: WordPerfect 6.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH>I have WordPerfect SIXO for Windows on CD-ROM for sale.
CH>Asking for $90 delivered.  If interested please reply here.

I'm interested. Does this includes docs and registration?
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5815
  To: BYRON MURRAY                             Date: 05/30/94  2:55a
Subj: Shareware Extravaganza                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BM>I to was a sucker and bought this cd and sold it to over 40
BM>customers. After many complaints I phoned them but also got
BM>no  answer so therefore reported them to the SPA for the 5
BM>commercial programs that I found. I got a reward and spilt
BM>it with my unhappy customers.
BM>Bye!
BM>--- GrapeVine BBS v0.22 Reg
BM> * Origin: Infinite Dreams (1:153/7042)

Do you wtill have the telephone $ to the SPA?
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5816
  To: RAINER VONSALESKI                        Date: 05/30/94  2:58a
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Rv>> Well, you could put in back in the plastic bag when your done,
Rv>that doesn't > sound like too much trouble to me.  I guess putting
Rv>them in Ziploc bags (the > stronger ones made of heavier plastic)
Rv>wouldn't be a bad idea either.
Rv>It's not a question of "too much trouble" -- it's a
Rv>question of how to protect the disc while still keeping it
Rv>handy.  Do you really store your CD-ROMs in a pile of
Rv>Ziploc bags?  That's hard to believe ...
Rv>
Rv>I'll probably opt for buying empty jewel cases locally, and
Rv>cutting out part of the cardboard box to make a cover.  Do
Rv>you have any good suggestions for alternative ways of
Rv>protecting and keeping handy a bunch of CD-ROMs?

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A nike shoebox and a roll of scotties.

Later,
 Geoffrey
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From: MARK REES                              Number: 5817
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 05/28/94  7:08a
Subj: Re: !free 2200+ cd's catal              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Requesting one of your catalogs:
Mark Rees
1831 Capstan Drive
Oxnard, Ca 93035

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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 5818
  To: CHARLES HORSEY                           Date: 05/29/94 11:40p
Subj: Re: Enough Already                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH>Well you can always use the Cdrom sale echo..
 I'd agree with you, _IF_ I had access to the Cdrom sale echo! 8-(


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From: JOHN MCMILLEN                          Number: 5819
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 05/29/94  8:54p
Subj: Location of hoffa                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 5820
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 05/24/94  7:07p
Subj: Re: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 >For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
 JR> Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:
 JR> 2@2659 Satisfaction guaranteed....
 JR> ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831
 JR> 24hrs P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs
 JR> 16.8k ZYX Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS
 JR> WELCOME<<<<< NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)
 JR> 24HOURS 7DAYS

 Please send message to:

 Kyle Machulis
 Rt.2 Box 3440
 Bartlesville, Ok
 74003


... Go straight to the docs.  Do not pass GO.  Do not collect $200!
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From: RON BRIDGEMON                          Number: 5821
  To: STEVE MARTINDALE                         Date: 05/28/94  4:29p
Subj: Jurassic Park CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I fixed the problem an hour after I left that post, thanx for the reply though.


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From: CHARLES HORSEY                         Number: 5822
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 05/28/94  8:46p
Subj: Enough Already                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 05-25-94 GEOFFREY CYLWIK wrote to BRICE FLECKENSTEIN...

GC> BF>>This echo is supposed to provide a useful exchange of
 GC> BF>>information.  Instead, I have to sift through unsolicited
GC> BF>advertisments.
GC>
GC> BF> According to the Moderator, ads have been welcome here since the
GC> BF>beginning - though the "ad message length limit" is so SHORT most
GC>
 GC> US RETAILERS NEED THIS ECHO.  GAMERS HAVE THEIRS!  I MEAN TO BE
GC> SHOUTING. }:-<
GC> ___
Well you can always use the Cdrom sale echo.
I hate to wade through pages of advertising especially when I see the
same message posted several times.
I myself like to see the echo changed to cdrom_technical t or have
someone start a cdrom technical echo. If I want o buy somethoing I can
always go to the Cdrom Sale echo.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 5823
  To: MARTY BAREL                              Date: 05/28/94 11:56p
Subj: Special Offer!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Marty   Barel   wrote   in  a   message    to    Terry    Blount:

MB> TB>           $8.95   *  Cream of the Crop vol 2    *      $8.95

MB> Wow!!!!  This is a great offer....I bought  it  when  the  price
MB> was $30 and it was worth every penny.....

 Yes it is a great offer.   Rather  than  spending a  lot  on  Mag
 advertising I thought I would  give  the  end  users  who  aren't
 familiar with Cream of the Crop a price break  on  the  remaining
 Cream 2 disc I had in stock.  Night Owl and other cd  rom  titles
 are  out selling Cream  of  the  Crop  about  20  to 1  and I  am
 confident  that if folks saw the quality of  Cream  of  the  Crop
 2 they would want to get vol 3.


MB> I just received
MB> Cream Of The Crop 3,  which  BTW  I  ordered  from  Terry  on  a
MB> Friday and was in my hands on  Saturday,  it  is  another  great
MB> disk,  and  the  utility  on  it  to  make  customized  listings
MB>  worked  great  and  fast.    Thanks  for  another  GREAT  disk.

 My pleasure! Thank you for the plug...   I'm always  looking  for
 new ideas so when I was getting Cream 3 ready I decided to  write
 a utility to convert the files.bbs to any format a  person  could
 imagine.  I believe "AnyStyle" came pretty close to  doing  that.
 So far I haven't heard of anything I could have  added.   I  also
 wrote a utility shortly after  Cream 3  was  pressed  that  would
 calculate the average file date of a cd.  Perhaps this method  of
 determining the relative  age  of  various  shareware  cd's  will
 catch on.  I'm anxiously waiting to see  what  the  average  file
 date will be on the 2 cd's that  are  currently  being  released.

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From: CONFIG.EXE                             Number: 5824
  To: SYSOP                                    Date: 05/28/94  3:11p
Subj: Seed Message                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CONFIG.EXE Seed Message

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From: DU LAM                                 Number: 5825
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  7:42a
Subj: cd-rom help!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I use my cd-rom to play a game which supposes to have sound too, but
some how the sound never seem to come out from speaker, I wonder if my
setting for the cd-rom and sound card are configured correctly? I also
check the IRQ  and DMA but saw nothing were set, is this normal? By the
way I use checkit,norton and dos to check IRQ and DMA, the result are
the same. Please tell me what is the best way the find out if the DMA
and IRQ are properly set.
Additional information:
    *Mitsumi internal double speed FX001D
    *sound blaster 16 basic
Note: I can play music cd no problem.
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From: CHERYL SWIFT                           Number: 5826
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 05/28/94  1:18a
Subj: CD-Rom that won't read a certain disk   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom that reads all of our CDs except one.  The disk is OK.
. . .several people have read it on their computers.  I've cleaned the drive
and the CD, and it still won't read it.  The distributor says the speed of the
drive doesn't matter.  Is my drive going bad?  We've had it about 9 months.
(The CD is called "Sights and Sounds- All American Series Vol. 8."  It has a
lot of .gifs, .mids, .rols, .cmfs etc.)  Can ANYONE give my any ideas of what
to try?  I hate to just give up and say it's incompatible.

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From: AARON SANFORD                          Number: 5827
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/29/94 10:46a
Subj: Cd-rom Intl 800 Number                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>Maybe someday soon !!  We're looking into the possiblity of an
BO>International 800 service, but as yet have not made that decission.

Sorry to interrupt but I think us folks in Japan would
--REALLY-- use an intl. 800 number.  Try it, you might be
surprised at the results.


Aaron
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From: SIGI RINDLER                           Number: 5828
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 05/29/94 10:46a
Subj: BORIS OSADCIW                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GP>Anybody who sells things by mail order is going to occasionally have an
GP>outage of stock, or an item which (came in, and) goes out defective, or
GP>whatever.  And anybody who handles a LOT of orders will have more such
GP>unfortunate cases.

Very true, nothing to complain about that!
But calling 4 weeks later, and getting the answer: "It has been
shipped yesterday" is fishy already. After 3 weeks you call
again, then it's the US post office that has lost the mail, or
the foreign customs which might hold the merchandize back, etc.
etc. The guy won't call you, YOU ought to call him multiple
times. However, he's pretty responsive when requirements for bulk
orders pop up... BTW, if he talks as he writes English, 80% of
his problems are caused by this deficiency!!!
I couldn't figure out parts of his message to me. Some
native-English speaking friends got a chuckle out of it.

Summary: If you shut up, don't call Boris about a lacking cable,
plug, or another accessory, a missing disk, a faulty CD-ROM
drive, or no parcle at all, you'll NEVER receive anything
without getting noisy. It wouldn't bother much, but receiving the
Visa bill before the merchandize arrives or is shipped out is
annoying indeed! I have observed that it took quite some time until
the "pro Boris fans arrived in masses" and wonder whether he is
sending free discs to a couple of guys who try to gag his victim
(who had pretty good reasons to complain). None of you has
complained about his long silence concerning all these
"unfounded" allegations. He just kept on bombarding the net with
numerous canned ads. I takes always some time to develop a new
strategy...
Since Boris advertises here for free, he must be
prepared to get negative remarks back on the same net. Life is
made up of giving and taking, not just a one-way street.

Good advice how to curb vendors who try to do monkey business:
call your credit card company and complain vehemently. It has
worked for me very well in the past. The buyer must be the king
and not vice versa!

 * OLX 2.1 TD * DOS ERROR: (A)bort (R)eboot (U)se OS/2


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From: EARL GREENER @ 910/100                 Number: 5829
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/29/94 11:00a
Subj: $4.75 CD-ROMS!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF>> Yes John I would like to get these CD's .They do have all the paper
BF>> work that comes with all these cd's Right??

BF> They're all CDs, but NO paperwork - they're cut out of the "5 Foot 10 Pack"

 Thanks for the reply but I don't want it now .Thanks anyway.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * CD,CD,CD's So many to choose from and so little info!!

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From: EARL GREENER @ 910/100                 Number: 5830
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 05/29/94 11:00a
Subj: Special Offer!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB>TB>           $8.95   *  Cream of the Crop vol 2  *   $8.95

TB>TB>                Terry Blount, Box 36, BLB, Al. 36509
 Is this with shipping or with out?
 If with out please give me the total.


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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5831
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 05/29/94  1:31p
Subj: free                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

how do i get my free CD?  please reply ASAP.  Thanks
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 5832
  To: JAMES CHAMBERS                           Date: 05/29/94  1:37p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>        I recently bought a Creative Labs Discovery CD/MultiMedia
JC>kit. Well, the CD craze has struck me.  Please feel free to add me
JC>to any of your mailing lists.  My interest are very wide spread
JC>including adult. My address follows.

JC>Thanks,

JC>James Chambers
JC>P.O. Box 1696
JC>Ashland, KY 41105-1696

catalog's on it's way
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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 5833
  To: BILL KENDALL                             Date: 05/29/94  8:54a
Subj: Re: hell cab for trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JK> Microsoft Cinemania '94 w/docs...$28.00 shipped
BK>Hey Jim, do you remember me? I used to be in the ST scene when you
BK>were...I bought that old 9600 USR external modem off you.  I might be
BK>interested in that Cinemania CD, what is it exactly?

 Hi Bill, YES I remembered you!  The Cinemania '94 is an Interactive Movie
Guide, with reviews by Leonard Maltin, Siskel & Ebert.. Also, includes bios of
actors/actresses.. movie clips and sound clips, from contemporary to classic
films dated from the early years to 93..
Let me know! Thanks! Jim (602)-486-9869 or reply!


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From: ROB HOOD                               Number: 5834
  To: TIM VAY                                  Date: 05/29/94  8:23p
Subj: CD'S for sale or trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Tim!

Saturday May 28 1994 09:16, Tim Vay wrote to Rob Hood:


 ->> Hello Tim!
 ->>
 ->> Wednesday May 25 1994 07:45, Tim Vay wrote to Rob Hood:
 ->>
 ->  ->  RH>>> Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia 1992   25.00
 ->  ->>>
 ->  ->>> What version number and is it DOS?   1.5 DOS version
 ->>
 ->> Give you $15.00 shipped.

 RH>      Make it 20.00 shipped and it's a deal..

Sorry, for another $11.00  I could get the version 6. Thanks for the response
tho.


Rob

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From: EDDIE MONEY                            Number: 5835
  To: LLOYD BURTON                             Date: 05/29/94  1:28a
Subj: PIONEER 604X-INFORMATION                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Lloyd!

Wednesday May 25 1994 09:09, Lloyd Burton wrote to David Silver:


 LB> Would you happen to have the phone number and address for Pioneer so
 LB> that I can talk to their technical support?
 LB> Lloyd Burton

Lloyd, Pioneer number is 1-800-444-6784, not sure if that is tech support but I
bet they can get you to the right place.
The Pioneer's are a real nice drive, got one of the 602X's for myself a couple
of weeks ago.

Eddie

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 5836
  To: BRIAN NASH                               Date: 05/28/94  5:28p
Subj: Red shift                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 05-25-94  13:53 Brian Nash commented on Red shift,
 to which I exclaim:

 LF>Anyone familiar with this disc? Especially interested in comments from
 LF>professional or serious amateur astronomers.

 BN> I have a customer who bought this disk from me, and he thinks it's
 BN> great! His main hobby is astronomy, so I guess he would know. If

 Any chance you could get in touch with him and ask him to send a
 detailed review (assuming he's on Fidonet or Internet)? My husband is
 particularly interested in whether the disc attaches technical info
 about the objects it displays.

... Abolish mornings
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From: FLOYD PASSA                            Number: 5837
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  6:07a
Subj: Dracula Unleashed and Journeyman's Project  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a walk-through for these games.

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From: MATHIEU NOTERIS                        Number: 5838
  To: RICHARD EID                              Date: 05/25/94 10:32p
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Richard!

Saturday May 21 1994 14:07, Richard Eid wrote to All:

 RE> I saw this ad in a magazine.
 RE>
 RE> It says that at the opening screen of 7th Guest at the ouija board you
 RE> should type in "ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX" and you should hear
 RE> "Groovy,Groovy,Groovy".

===<Cut Lines>===
Sorry to disapoint you but it does not give any results on my system ....
More infos ? Please, let me know !

Best regards

Mathieu

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From: GIANNI SERCU                           Number: 5839
  To: RAFA LATIEGUI                            Date: 05/27/94 11:43a
Subj: Rock'n'roll                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Rafa,

 > Does anybody know if there is a CD-ROM similar to Cinemania but about
 > rock'n'roll history?

 > I mean, a list of bands and their discographies...

I use All music guide for this ...

Greetings,

Gianni

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From: CHRISTIAN BARTSCH                      Number: 5840
  To: KOEN ROUSSEAU                            Date: 05/27/94  3:16p
Subj: CDrom and WfW 3.11                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I am having trouble to run a Mistumi LU005S under WfW 3.11. The
 > problem is, each time I use a large file, the CD-player pauses
 > at random moments. This is most notably with AVI files and
 > Audio-CD's, since the audio and video constantly breaks up. I
 > The problem arose after I installed a networkcard, WfW 3.11 and
 > 6.2, so I guess one off these components is causing these
 > malfunctions.

;-)

try looking into your network card,i have WfW 3.1 and dos 6.2 also (with the
same drive) and have yet to experience any of the trobles you mentioned.
BTW what MSCDEX do you use and what mitsumi driver ??

Christian

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From: CHRISTIAN BARTSCH                      Number: 5841
  To: TIMOTHY ROY                              Date: 05/27/94  3:13p
Subj: Enough already                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >      I for one enjoy the ads.  I've purchased The Seventh Guest
 > for less than half its retail price here.  I'd probably drop the
 > echo if the ads were removed.

me 2,

Christian

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From: JEFF JERNEGAN                          Number: 5842
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/22/94  3:47p
Subj: CD ROMS for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Got a CD-ROM drive w/ bundled CD software I don't need. For sale or trade:

7th Guest (unopened)                                     $30/obo
  (can be traded w/co for Mantis Experimental Fighter
   from MicroProse or Civilization from MicroProse,
   because the program is 'Not recommended for
   individuals under the age of 17' due to 'scenes
   of graphic violence and pure evil').

Arthur's Teacher Trouble                                  $20/obo
   Broderbund Living Books for children

Battle Chess Enhanced                                     $25/obo
Interplay

All new & complete. Will also trade for 1mb SIMMs, LINUX CD-ROM, Pascal
Programmer's CD-ROM, DC2000 to DC2120 tape catridges, Adult CD-ROMs.



Jeff Jernegan

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 5843
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 05/30/94  6:20a
Subj: Re: CD's For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Robert Kummer to JOSE VISBAL <=-

 JV> RK> !!! CD GAMES !!!
 JV> RK> - Mad Dog McCree  - Wing Commander II  -and links Golf

Hi Robert
I just have to pass.If you still have mad dog McCree & Wing Commander
then let me know...
Thanks for the reply...


... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: STEVE MARTINDALE                       Number: 5844
  To: DU LAM                                   Date: 05/29/94 10:28p
Subj: cd-rom & sound card help                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just plug the CD player right to the Soundblaster.  Then run the installation
software that came with your soundblaster board.  You probably will have to
delete  the old drivers from your config.sys (please make sure to back it up).
If you don't have the drivers you probably can get them from a local BBS or
from the Soundblaster comp.  Let me know how you do.

Steve Martindale

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From: STEVE MARTINDALE                       Number: 5845
  To: MIKE MULLIGAN                            Date: 05/29/94 10:34p
Subj: Game Blaster Cd 16                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The game blaster is a good deal providing you want the software that comes with
it.  I would probably wait because a 4X Cd-Rom is coming out for less that
$400.  Most people who buy the soundblaster packages never use the
games/programs and end up selling them for next to nothing or let them store on
a shelf collecting dust.  Find out exactly what you want to do with a Cd-Rom
first then decide.  Another thing you must consider when buying packages is
"who makes the CD-Rom drive.  Sound Blaster uses a Mitsumi drive which is
reliable and good.

Hope that helps
Steve Martindale

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From: MARK GENGLER                           Number: 5846
  To: PETER PRASAD                             Date: 05/29/94 11:11p
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PP> -=> Quoting Mark Gengler to All <=-

PP> MG> Hi all,
PP> MG> Two things for you today.
PP> MG> Sony CDU561 Double Spin SCSI drive (brand new, in box even)----$185
PP> MG> (shipped anywhere in US for free).

PP>       I'm intersted if you'll do the same to candian
PP> territory, BTW
PP>       do have some more spec on this unit, like speed and
PP> transfer times etc
Drat, stupid Gedit, can't get the blasted thing to select parts.  Sorry for
the extra lines Sysops!  Ok here are Specs on the CDU561 drive
double spin (300 k a second, or better.  might be 330, don't know for sure
right now).  295ms access. SCSI interface.  Internal drive (so you need to
have a cable from you SCSI adapter, or can buy one from me for $15).  It'll
set you back $5 more for Canadian shipping.

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From: ADAM HIGGINS                           Number: 5847
  To: BILL KENDALL                             Date: 05/29/94  8:12p
Subj: HELL CAB FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I don't have any game s- I have AUS and World Atlas (on one CD), Software
Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia Version5.0 (CD), Uninstaller for Windows
(non-CD), Simearth (non cd), Random House Dictionary and Thesaurus (non-CD).
Any of these interest you for a trade for Hell Cab?

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From: DAVID TANIGUCHI                        Number: 5848
  To: JAMES DOMENGEAUX                         Date: 05/29/94  6:20p
Subj: Cd's For Sale Or Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi James,
I was wondering if you still have the CD's for sale.
Let me know.
David Taniguchi

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From: J. SHAPIRO                             Number: 5849
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  9:22a
Subj: cd's for sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jones In The Fast Lane

Wiz-Pak 6-Pak Cd-Rom

QuickToons Classic Cartoons

Space Quest 4 (Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers)

Victor Vector & Yondo (The Last Dinosaur Egg)

Night Owl 8

Echo Quest (Search for Cetus)

Shareware Overload

Deathstar Arcade Battles

Living Book (Arthur's Teacher Trouble)

Willy Beamish

Kings Quest 5

Kings Quest 6

Make and offer.....

Will consider trades....

J.S.


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From: RON LOTTERMANN                         Number: 5850
  To: BILLY MULLINS                            Date: 05/28/94 10:43p
Subj: Loom                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BM>I have the game loom on cd-rom and I can't get past the water spote
  >can any out here help is there a hint file or something.

You need to use the untwist spell.

Ron

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From: RYAN NOVOSIELSKI                       Number: 5851
  To: RAINER VONSALESKI                        Date: 05/29/94  2:29p
Subj: Flopticals.                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are Flopticals actual drives (such as floppy disks, not backups) or
are they just like tapes?

Ryan

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5852
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  5:31a
Subj: !659 Cd's $25 or less!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-DISC SALE...
OS/2 Hobbes $13.05                     $5.00 FedEx shipping (domestic)
Shareware Studio 4 $16.00              $5.00 C.O.D.'s WELCOME!
NightOwl 12 $22.00, Cream of the Crop 3 $22,
>659 CD-ROM titles $25.00 or less!  To order discs or catalog contact:
>FilReq: CDLIST.zip or majic word CONFIG for over 2,200 CD-Titles
Joe Rinehart, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240.0001, or
voice:216.296.4446, voice:216.296.9831, DATA/FAX: [phone] - 24hrs
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE 1.800.6.CONFIG=1800.626.6344 24HRS

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5853
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  5:31a
Subj: $22.00 Cream of the crop                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       >>>>>>>>>>>"CREAM OF THE CROP III" only $22.00<<<<<<<<<<
     You've been reading about it & now's your chance to get it!
     The hottest selling shareware CD-ROM title available.  We've
never had a return on previous versions, as it is guaranteed to be
compatible for your system.  SATISFACTION 100% GUARANTEED!
IN-STOCK & SHIPPING DAILY around 5:00pm EST!
IMMEDIATE SHIPPING via FedEX Economy $5.00, Next day $7.00, COD$5.00
To order contact: Joe, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, OH 44240
Internet: [e-mail], Fido: 1:157/479, BBS: 216.296.2244, or our
>NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE: 1-800-6CONFIG (1.800.626.6344)

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5854
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  5:31a
Subj: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:  2@2659
Satisfaction guaranteed....
            ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)  24HOURS 7DAYS

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 5855
  To: DARREN YAN                               Date: 05/30/94  3:25a
Subj: Best Encycopedia CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DY>Anyone here wants to recommend a good encyclopedia CD ?  I've heard of
DY>the Microsoft Encrta (I hope I got the spelling right !).  What else is
DY>there in the market ?

Also available: Encarta, Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia, New
Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia, Information Finder (World Book),
Britannica Instant Research System, Canadian Encyclopedia,
Axis (in French) and McGraw-Hill's Encyclopedia of Science and
Technology.

That's *most* of the larger ones. Now we'd have to know what
level you want -- and generally what level you can afford.
Cheers!
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5856
  To: JIM KEHO                                 Date: 05/29/94 10:17a
Subj: Re: Hell cab for trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JK>Mad Dog McCree w/docs/no box...$22.00 shipped
JK>Microsoft Cinemania '94 w/docs....$28.00 shipped


             I have Rebel Assault for trade for Cinemania 94? What
             exactly on this disc? How many movies does it have clips
             from, how is it setup? Sound wise? Graphics wise? I'll
             trade ya RA for the Cinemania and maybe one more, if ya
             wanna make me an offer go ahead, I'm just suggesting a 2
             for 1 trade? Let me know,

                                Thanks,
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 5857
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/29/94  2:14p
Subj: Re: ADVICE TO A NEWCOMER                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to James Pollock <=-

 BF> The RS/6000 has been around for YEARS, and is consistantly one of the
 BF> WORST selling machines even in the small workstation market.
The RS/6000 only RECENTLY began using the PowerPC chip, which was the
original topic of this thread.

 BF> I'll grant that it's a bit premature to decide on the market success
 BF> on the Power PC based stuff....

At this point, PowerPC is not aimed at the Intel x86 market.  Apple has
bet the farm on it, though, and IBM is pushing it in the workstation mkt.
Since MS is supporting it (via WinNT), Intel has to take the threat
seriously...the PPC 620 is way ahead of the Pentium, and some industry
sources speculate that it is ahead of the P6, too.  But until the
compatability is there, the PPC is a niche market.

If I were Borland, though, I'd be working on optimizing PPC compilers.




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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 5858
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/29/94  3:04p
Subj: Re: ENOUGH ALREADY                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Richard Keller <=-


 BF> RIME "CDROM" echo does so, as of the last time I checked.
 BF> Also, CDROM_SALE has been in existance for WELL under a year, and has
 BF> been on the Backbone for very few months - most folks that carry CDROM
 BF> don't seem to have picked up CDROM_SALE yet....
And, those users/sysops that DO have access to both, post the same msg in
both echos.  I can hardly tell them apart.




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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 5859
  To: PATRICK CHRISTIAN                        Date: 05/29/94  3:08p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CR-562-B                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Patrick Christian to All <=-

 PC> Does anyone know what controller will allow the daisy-chaining of the
 PC> CR 562-B CD-Rom drives?  The manual that comes with the drive indicates
 PC> that up to 4 may be daisy-chained.

It is a proprietary interface board referred as the ATBUS card.  Egghead's
carries them under the Reveal brand name, other stores may as well.  It
MAY also be possible to chain them off of a SoundBlaster card.  The new
driver includes a switch to select which of 4 drives is interfaced, and you
run it once for each drive.


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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 5860
  To: BRIAN JOHNSON                            Date: 05/29/94  3:09p
Subj: Re: Quick Time files                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brian Johnson to All <=-

 BJ> I know they have quick time files on CD-ROM's so I was wondering if
 BJ> anybody who uses this message area could help me. How do you view a
 BJ> Quick-Time file?
With the QuickTime runtime module.  If your CD-ROM requires it, it will
most likely be part of the installation.  It's a Windows tool and so I
haven't figured out what-all is involved in the installation, I just let
the auto-install take care of it.



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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 5861
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/29/94  3:17p
Subj: Re: WOMEN ON WHEELS CD-RO               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Lee Noga <=-

 >Simulated sex scans don't count...if the penetration can be seen,
 >you have fallen outside of 1st amendment

 BF> AS INTERPRETED by various Court....
As interpreted by the only one that matters, the US Supreme Court.  They have
ALWAYS held that obscenity is NOT protected by the 1st Amendment to the US
Constitution.

They do not provide a firm standard for what is or is not obscene--it is
up to the jury, not the court, to decide that.  So you could lose a case
ANYWHERE, if you were unfortunate enough to draw a tightass jury.  If you
lose in federal court, and you have sizable assets, they will use RICO to
sieze them--before you get to appeal.  Even if you win the appeal, you
may not get them back, or compensation for their loss.





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From: JIM SMITH                              Number: 5862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  9:20p
Subj: Cd-rom For A Bbs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I need to know what is the best shareware CD-ROM for a PCBoard BBS.  I need all
around balance of programs.  Something that will suit many of my users.
You hear all the hype on the different CD-ROMS and I just don't know which to
choose.

Thanks,
Jim Smith

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From: JOHN HIND                              Number: 5863
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  5:54p
Subj: Avertisements                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

A suggestion:

  How about restricting commercial sales notes in this forum to
short announcements of new CDs (with a description thats more than
a restatement of a title) or special offers? Use the other forum
to post catalog listings!!

  Its real painfull to sift though the posts here when looking for
information with the extensive trafic of catalogs (even when they
are split up into 10 line messages). Now I am not against catalogs
and have certainly ordered from the ones I found in the SALES
forum nor do I have any problem with dealers answering a question
about where some title can be obtained; I am just tired of seeing
the exact same long listings in two places!


... Pardon Me, But Would You Have Any Blue Poupon?
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From: CLIFF MEDINA                           Number: 5864
  To: CHRIS BRICKELL                           Date: 05/29/94  7:22p
Subj: !FREE 2200+ CD'S CATALOG!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry Chris, but I have nothing to do with sending catalogs!

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From: ERNEST ENNS                            Number: 5865
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS                          Date: 05/30/94  5:49p
Subj: REBEL ASSAULT Fix                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jeremy,

 > It's up to REBEL17.ZIP now. There are also some good help files
 > available from the LucasArts BBS: 1-415-257-3070.


I KNEW this would happen ;)...... I waited about 2 weeks for a reply to my
message, and after no response, I dloaded it last night from Compu$erve. ($6.00
poorer for it too).

Thanks anyways. The fix solved the jumpy joystick problems. I'll check the bbs
out also!

TTYL

-Ernest-

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From: ERNEST ENNS                            Number: 5866
  To: MIKE MULLIGAN                            Date: 05/30/94  6:01p
Subj: Game Blaster Cd 16                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mike,

 > How good is the Games Blaster CD 16 combo, does anyone out there
 > have it?  I would like to get a CD-rom soon and saw this offer for the
 > above for $379, what do you all think?  How good is the CD drive?  Is it
 > reliable?  Well any and all help concerning CD-roms would be great, I
 > don't know anything about them!

I purchased it about 3 weeks ago, and thoroughly LOVE it. I'm running a 386
dx33 and have had NO problems with it speedwise or otherwise. The package takes
about 20 minutes to install, and I was up and running. At that price, the games
alone that came with it amount to more than the cost of the system (I priced
them <grin>). Sure you can always get the latest and greatest (and shell out
the big bucks) but I'm very happy with this one. The drive seems well built,
and the accessories (joystick/speakers/SB pro 16 card) are great. I say go for
it!

TTYL

-Ernest-

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From: ERNEST ENNS                            Number: 5867
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 05/30/94  6:03p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  *=-=-=* The Profit Group *=-=*  BBS Ready *=-=*
 >   Shipping Costs (Contiguous U.S.) 2-Day $6.00  OverNight $15.00
 >   Orders:1-800-843-7990  Fax:[phone]  Info.:1-602-770-0000
 >    The Profit Group - 824 E. FT. Lowell Road - Tucson, AZ. 85719

 Do you guys have a catalog? Do you ship to Canada?

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From:                                        Number: 5868
  To:                                          Date: 05/31/94 12:00a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TDIR

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From: SHARRON OVERBY                         Number: 5869
  To: NORAYR HAJIAN                            Date: 05/30/94  5:37p
Subj: Re: buying cd rom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You asked what is a CD-ROM caddy?

Some ROM players will allow you to lay the CD directly onto the tray, like
your Audio Disc players; however, some CD-ROM players require a special caddy
in which the ROM disc is placed. The caddy, of course, is then inserted into
the ROM player much like a cassette is inserted into the player.

Caddy's may be expensive; however, they do protect the disc more so than the
ROM drives that do not require caddies. But, I wouldn't worry to much about
damaging the disc anyway. Either ROM drive works well, IMHO.

Sharron

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From: SKIP PERSINGER                         Number: 5870
  To: RAINER VONSALESKI                        Date: 05/29/94 10:16a
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >polyethylene bag.  Is this the norm?  Are CDs normally
  >packaged in jewel cases, like audio CDs, or are we left to
  >fend for ourselves figuring out how to keep them safe from
  >scratches?  If so, what's the best way to do this?
I have seen this problem coming for a long time. SInce the large profit
margins are all but gone from the market, except for a few exceptions.
In general, the profit is much lower then they were. The need to cut
back on cost has been a big problem for "CD Developers".
In the real world of buying CD-ROM disks for your computer you will see
some in cases, some in cardboard, and some in just about anything.
This is not a real problem because there are many places to order
j-cases and caddies, as well as other multi-storage boxes to hold all
the CD's that you have.
Walnut Creek has the j-cases for (I Believe) 50 cents a piece. Some of
us have a lot of caddies left over from different drives and I use those
along with the J-cases.
I also see a lot of magazines putting out CODES. So here is another
reason to get a few spare j-cases, or caddies...
Skip...

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From: SKIP PERSINGER                         Number: 5871
  To: MIKE PHLIPSAK                            Date: 05/29/94 10:23a
Subj: Cd-rom Cable Limits                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MP>Hi All,
  > Was wondering what the Limit for Ribbon cable is (Length) for
  >Cd-roms. Is it possable to boost it? (length) and still have
  >it work..
Mike: I have not done a complete test on cable length for IDE or CD-rom
lengths. But I do know that they will work in lengths to reach from the
bottom of a full tower to the top of a full tower.
I wouldn't go much beyond these lengths until you hear from someone that
has really tested longer lengths. Skip...

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From: PAUL LIDERMAN                          Number: 5872
  To: NORMAN PATTERSON                         Date: 05/21/94 11:30p
Subj: CD Catologues                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in trading the following software:
    -Mad Dog McCree
    -Mario is Missing
    -Mammals
    -Space Adventure
    -Dinosaur Adventure


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From: LON SEIDMAN                            Number: 5873
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 05/29/94 11:25p
Subj: Enough already                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GP> Personally, I think the echo is a useful place to get information about
 GP> new releases, and what's on special sale.  And dealers are obviously
 GP> going to be in the best position to provide that information first.
 GP> Personally the thing _I_ could do without would be some guy off in
 GP> Australia who wants to sell his (one) copy of 7th Guest for AUS$25 or
 GP> something... and then for some other guy there trying to talk him
 GP> down to $23... for thousands of sysops to transport and store those
 GP> message around the world, THAT is wasteful.

Being a sysop myself, I can see that point.  The reason I posted "enough
already" is that I'm sick of these people wasting valuable space on the echo,
regardles of whether they are a dealer or not!  Even further, I'm supplying
free advertising to the commercial dealers, who give me nothing in exchange.
I'm not in favor of that.

Basically, they are diminishing the informative aspect of this echo, and
leaving it to be a commercialized wastland.  There already IS a commercial echo
for CD-ROM software, and this place certainly isn't it.


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From: ED HARFORD                             Number: 5874
  To: ZAK TAN                                  Date: 05/30/94  8:20a
Subj: CD Bible                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Logos is offering for a short time only this summer a special deal on what will
be their newly released CD WORD upgrade.  The current version sells for $595.
The new version will undoubtedly sell for more.  The price during the
introductory offer is $350 (through Baker Book House of Grand Rapids, MI).

CD WORD is the cadillac of all Bible CD programs.  The current version contains
4 translations (KJV, NASB, NIV, NRSV); also several commentaries, lexicons,
dictionaries, etc.  It is WINDOWS ONLY.  While I'm not a regular Windows user,
I find it perfect for CD WORD, since you can simultaneously have several
windows side-by-side.  For instance, you can call up a Bible translation/s,
greek manuscript, commentary, and dictionary ALL AT THE SAME TIME.  There is
more, but I don't have time to list everything it can do.

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From: ED HARFORD                             Number: 5875
  To: DU LAM                                   Date: 05/30/94  8:35a
Subj: Mitsumi & SB                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I ran into the same problem as you.  I ended up buying the only SB card that is
tailored for the Mitsumi FX100 and FX100D.  It's called the Sound Blaster MULTI
CD.  I got mine for $150.

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From: ZACH HEITLING                          Number: 5876
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  9:02p
Subj: HELP!                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a SONY-535-I and I'm trying to run Myst without it chopping up the
sound and skipping all to hell. Can anyone suggest something, even if It's
buying a 2 or 3X rom Drive.

Zach

... Always do right; this will gratify some and astonish others.
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From: ZACH HEITLING                          Number: 5877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94 10:16a
Subj: HELP!                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a SONY-535-I and I'm trying to run Myst without it chopping up the
sound and skipping all to hell. Can anyone suggest something, even if It's
buying a 2 or 3X rom Drive.

Zach

... Always do right; this will gratify some and astonish others.
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From: JONATHAN BLANK                         Number: 5878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  7:38p
Subj: Help! I need free cd-roms               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All-
    I just got my new CD-ROM installed and I am even more addicted than
I had hoped.  I even enjoy the "promotional" disks such as DiscPatch, On
Hand, etc.  Does anyone know where I can get some free "promotion-type"
CD-ROMs?  I would be very grateful...

REWARD:

To anyone giving me decent advice on the subject, I can get you a great
price on new PC equipment.  Really.  (Yes it's legal too :)  )

    Thanks,
    Jon Blank
    *** *****


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From: JONATHAN BLANK                         Number: 5879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  7:44p
Subj: CD-ROMs for trade / swap!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All-
    I have a few CD-ROMs that I would be willing to trade for just about
any other CD-ROMs... (1 for 1)

A) CLASSIC OLDIES PC KARAOKE (VOLUME 3041)
B) THE WIZ-PAK 6-PAK CD-ROM (shareware stuff)
C) CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS (reviews on over 7,000 CD-ROMS..it's up-to-date!)
D) SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS WORLD ATLAS VER. 3.2
E) CORELDRAW VERSION 4.0 REV B *PATCH*
F) DOOM EPISODE 1: KNEE DEEP IN THE DEAD (virtual reality game..)

IMPORTANT: HERE ARE THE ONLY ONES I WILL *NOT* ACCEPT IN TRADE (I have
these)
Compton's New Century Encyclopedia, Software Toolworks' Multimedia
Encyclopedia, On Hand, Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack, Animation
Festival, TIME Man of the Year, Wayzata World Factbook, King's Quest V.

ALL else is fair game!  Write me back...Thanks!

    Jonathan Blank
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From: CHARLIE STRAKER                        Number: 5880
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 05/30/94  7:55p
Subj: Re: Games for sale or tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Well here we go:
   Day of the Tentacle
   Prince of Persia
   Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis


  How about Indiana Jones and $20. That's about all I can do.



                           Charlie
                             Straker

... This tagline is SHAREWARE!  To register, send me $10
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From: RICK NICHOLAS                          Number: 5881
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 05/25/94  7:52p
Subj: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hello could you plaese send me your catalouge at the following address
               APT 2212 - 140 CARLTON ST.
               Toronto, Ontario
               Canada      M5A3W7
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From: KENT TIMM                              Number: 5882
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 05/26/94  1:10p
Subj: Re: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Stardate: 20 May 94  03:22:18. Joe Rinehart send to All by subspace.
 >For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:

Kent Timm
PO Box 86062
Oakville Ontario, Canada
L6H 5V6


thanks

... I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.
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From: ALAN BORGOLOTTO                        Number: 5883
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 05/23/94  3:32p
Subj: Catalogue                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in your catalogue.

Alan Borgolotto
41 Ivan Nelson Dr.
Willowdale, Ont.
M2R 3P6

I live in Toronto, and would like to know what advantages I have of buying a
CD-ROM through your mail-order instead of the local software store.


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From: GEORGE MANOLIS                         Number: 5884
  To: PHIL ELLIOT                              Date: 05/29/94  4:36a
Subj: Myst - Gear World                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PE> Hi Zeus!
 PE> There are blue and red pages in each of the worlds. In
 PE> the Gear World you need to look closely at the
 PE> bedrooms. Not much else there.

I looked at the bedrooms...where are the pages hidden?

 PE> Channelwood.
 PE> Have you visited the island?
 PE> Water can work wonders if you can get it to the right places!

Island?  not sure...i tried channeling water to different places....i got into
the trees, but only found a lever opening a door....where are the pages in
channelwood?  The only pages i've found were in the ship-land.....

also, i can't get the spaceship started...i tried fiddling with the levers to
match the piano notes, but i couldn't match it  (the levers don't play
sound...i just listen to the clicks as i move them up...).

Zeus.


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From: GEORGE MANOLIS                         Number: 5885
  To: TONY SAUNDERS                            Date: 05/29/94  4:39a
Subj: Myst                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TS> Hi George,To get up to the treetop village you have to
 TS> take an elevator up
 TS>  to it.Channel the water to it and go up in it.
 TS> The circular stairs are opened from the top not the bottom.
 TS> If you need more help let me know.
 TS> See ya
 TS> Tony.

Yup, i figured it out, but i don't know where the pages are in channelwood...

Zeus.


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From: PAT PRUE                               Number: 5886
  To: JOE D. LEE                               Date: 05/30/94  1:46a
Subj: Re: GENERAL PROTECTION F                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Joe D. Lee spewed forth to All
 JDL> I have been having serious problems ever since I installed a CD-ROM
 JDL> on my  Magnavox 386. I cannot even run the Double Fusion LX Tour or any
 JDL> of my CDs. I  keep getting a message - DBLF109F caused a General
 JDL> Protection Fualt in module  KRNL286.EXE at 0001:38CA.  The name of the
 JDL> file and the location changes from  time to time. The computer locks up
 JDL> and I have to bebbot4 reboot. I had two  conversiataions with the
 JDL> technicaL support people to no avail. One guy  suggested I get a
 JDL> shareware product called GWPATCH.EXE. At this point, I am  even unable
 JDL> to run some of my non-Windows stuff, including Telix. So I am  using
 JDL> Windows Terminal for the first time. I would appreciate feedback from
 JDL> others more knowledgeable than myself. My computer was working fine
 JDL> until I  installed this CD-ROM . Now it is operating so erratically, I
 JDL> don;t know what  it will do next. Can anyone givwe me a clue.    --Joe
Try looking at your irq's and addresses ...Also r u running windows in
enhanced mode


... No, TEX Bimodem does NOT mean your modem is Gay
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From: JON HOLMAN                             Number: 5887
  To: SETH KANTER                              Date: 05/30/94  9:50a
Subj: DOOM                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SK> I'm in Orlando,Fl. I have wads coming out of my ears but don't know how
SK>to run them if they don't have their own batch files. It doesn't seem to
SK>work if I just type in the file name at the DOOM prompt.

I Would Love to get a hold of some of those Wad files! Hmmmmm.
To run them type the following:
Doom -file ______.wad -devparm -warp 1 -skill 4

Where _____.wad would be the name of the wad file
for instance to run a wad called Almighty.wad you would type:

Doom -file Almighty.wad -devparm -warp 1 -skill 4

■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Sneer at people who try hard.
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From: JON HOLMAN                             Number: 5888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  9:57a
Subj: Journeyman Project                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have more information on an upgrade for the Journeyman
project? I have one of the early disks - you know the type where there
is a 20-30 second pause after every step (on a single spin drive). i
heard there was an update available - but have heard nothing since.
Any info on who to contact? Where to contact them? etc....
Thanks

■ SLMR 2.1a ■ As Einstein once said...."Shut Up! Moron!!"
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  8:38p
Subj: Software Vault Emerald                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  B R A N D   N E W   R E L E A S E
              S O F T W A R E  V A U L T " E M E R A L D"
                        (In Stock NOW !!)
   Over 607 Megs - 4,287 Files - ALL FILES DATED "1994" - No Dupes
 Virus Checked - BBS Safe - Files.bbs Support For Several BBS Systems
  5% Duplication to Night Owl 12 - New Online Menu System and more !
                          Price - $18.00
Special Bundle - Cream Of The Crop II+III & Software Vault Emerald - $45.00
                         Dealers  Welcome
  ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5890
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  8:38p
Subj: Thank you for uploading POST!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ╒═══════════════════[  N I G H T  O W L  V 12.0  ]═══════════════════════╕
 │ All New Files - 65% 1994 Release  - Over 600 + Megs - Over 5,000 Files │
 │ Virus Checked ( True !!)  Dupe Checked ( True !!)  BBS Safe ( True !!) │
 │ Multipul Line Discriptions - New Online Viewer - Fewer Directories     │
 │                                                                        │
 │    Shipping Now !!        Price - $22.00        Shipping Now !!        │
 │                     Dealer Pricing Available !!                        │
 │SPECIAL PKG Available - Night Owl v12.0 + Pier 4 + Shareware Online 3 + │
 │Software Tool Chest - The Most Up To Date BBS Package - CALL FOR PRICE  │
 ╘═]  ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX [phone]  ]═╛

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From: FROM:BORIS OSADCIW                     Number: 5891
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  8:38p
Subj: Cream Of The Crop 3                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ╒════════════════]    R E L E A S E    N O T I C E    [═════════════════╕
 │   600+Megs             Cream Of The Crop III            600+Megs      │
 │               ** The Hottest CD For Any BBS System **                 │
 │   * All New Files  * No Dupes To Version 2 * Over 2968 + Files        │
 │* 14% Dup To N12 * 15% Dup To PIER4   *10% Dup To SHAREWARE ONLINE 3   │
 │* Full BBS Ready * Super New File Converter To ANY BBS Format * & More │
 │* DEALERS WELCOME !!        PRICE - $22.00        DEALERS WELCOME !!   │
 │* File FREQ  CREAM3.ZIP 1:157/46 - Pick A Bundle SPECIAL - CALL NOW !! │
 │      Sorry - No Questions will be answered on the 800 service !       │
 ╘══] ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-6759 FAX [phone] [═╛

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5892
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  8:38p
Subj: Hot Titles                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

═════════════════] T H I S  M O N T H S  H O T   C D  [═════════════════════

Cream Of The Crop 3 - $22. Sight's & Sounds    - $25. Soft Tool Chest- $25.
Night Owl 12        - $22. So-Much-Windows/OS2 - $18. Hot Bodies     - $30.
Pier 4              - $25. So-Much-Shareware 4 - $18. Women On Wheels- $25.
Shareware Online 3  - $25. Software Vault Plat - $16. Games 94       - $25.
Shareware Studio 4  - $18. Software Vault Emer - $19. Arsenal Files  - $22.
  (Exclusive - For C.C.I Customers ONLY - "EXPRESSWARE" is coming !!)
      (Call us at 216-225-3263 for details - You'll Love it !! )
    ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  FAX [phone]  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5893
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94  8:38p
Subj: Hot System Price                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             S P E C I A L   C D R O M    P U R C H A S E

 Brand NEW - Complete Philips Cdrom System - Internal Unit - Comes
 With Controller, Cable, Audio Cable, Software Drivers, Manual
 and Warranty. This is a Caddless System, that offers 380ms access
 time and 150kps transfer rate - MPC compliant - Plays Audio CD's
 without the need of installing any software.  Propreitary System
                     Price - $95.00 + Shipping

ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX [phone]

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From: RICK POTTS                             Number: 5894
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 05/29/94  7:29a
Subj: Game blaster cd 16                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GCNO! definitely get a media vision because ALL of their drives are
GCscsi and include the controller.  the fusion kit, for example,
GCincludes the pro-audio spectrum 16 with a scsi interface.  scsi lets
GCyou upgrade in the future without having to pay for ANOTHER
GCcontroller card.  The media drives are also FASTER than creative
GClabs.  I saw a media vision kit this past weekend at Comp-USA for
GCabout $429.00.  Spend this extra fifty bucks and ensure yourself
GCYEARS of upgradability.

Media Vision may not last another 6 months given their current
financial, management and legal troubles. I'm not sure buying Media
Vision products is a good idea, at least until they get through their
current crisis.


 Rick Potts   Phoenix, Arizona
 Internet:  [e-mail]


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From: TIM VAY                                Number: 5895
  To: SCOTT FISHER                             Date: 05/30/94 11:01a
Subj: re: cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> TV>    Microsoft Bookshelf is about 199.00 and has alot of great
-> TV>information in it. almost a must have. 25.00 will get it.
-> TV> Tim
->
->    Tim,
->     If it's still available, I'll take this for $25.
->           Scott E. Fisher          [phone]
->           7720 Penn Ave S. #119
->           Richfield, MN 55423
->     Reply with an address and phone #, and I'll send a bank check.
->

   Please send check to Tim Vay
                        1012 S. Locust Drive
                        Midwest city, Ok 73110
                        [phone]

  Please add 1.75 for shipping. I will await your check. I will mail the
Cdrom on Tuesday. If you have any questions please contact me at Phone #
above. Thanks, I know you will enjoy it.

   -=<Tim>=-


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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 5896
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  9:25a
Subj: FAO Adult CD's!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *-=-=-=-=-=-=* The Profit Group CDROM Disc Sale-Abration  *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 *=-=*  Adult CD's  *=-=-=* The Profit Group *=-=*  BBS Ready  *=-=*
  FAO 1 - 651 MegaBytes (XXX) - $29.00 -------<  All 3   <   BONUS
  FAO 2 - 695 MegaBytes (XXX) - $29.00 -------<   For    <    ALL
  FAO 3 - 693 MegaBytes (XXX) - $29.00 -------< $69.00!! <     6
  FAO GOLD 1 - 611 MegaBytes (XXX) - $39.00 --<  All 3   <   FAO CD's
  FAO GOLD 2 - 617 MegaBytes (XXX) - $39.00 --<   For    <    Just
  FAO GOLD 3 - 609 MegaBytes (XXX) - $39.00 --< $99.00!! <  $139.00!!
  Shipping Costs (Contiguous U.S.) 2-Day $6.00  OverNight $15.00
  Orders:1-800-843-7990  Fax:[phone]  Info.:1-602-770-0000
  The Profit Group - 824 E. FT. Lowell Road - Tucson, AZ. 85719
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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 5897
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  9:27a
Subj: 5 CD's Just $25.00 & Mor                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *-=-=-=-=-=-=* The Profit Group CDROM Disc Sale-Abration  *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
  Best Of ShareWare....$12.95   MEGA CDROM 1...$9.00  MegaCDROM 3....$14.95
  Best Of WindowsWare..$12.95   MEGA CDROM 2...$9.00  MegaWindows 2..$14.95
  Best Of Swimsuits....$12.95   MEGA A/V 1.....$9.00  MegaGames 1....$14.95
  Best Of BizznessWare.$12.95   MEGA WIN/OS 2..$9.00  Bundle Prices On Above
  Best Of Sites/Sounds.$12.95   SDN PLUS 1.....$9.00  Any 2 CD's For $21.95!
  Best Of PC Games.....$12.95    Or All 5 For $25.00  All 3 CD's For $29.95!
  All 6 For $49.00 *=* MC/Visa *=-* 2-Day Shipping(Contiguous US) $6.00 *=*
     Orders:1-800-843-7990  Fax:[phone]  Info.:1-602-770-0000
      The Profit Group - 824 E. FT. Lowell Road - Tucson, AZ. 85719
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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 5898
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  9:37a
Subj: New Mega CD's Arrive!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    New Product Announcement!!    <*>    New Product Announcement!!
 *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* Just Released For Sale Today! *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
  MEGA CDROM 4   -  Pressed 5/94 - BBS Ready! <  Any One For $29.00!
  MEGA WINDOWS 3 -  Pressed 5/94 - BBS Ready! < All Three Just $59.00!
  MEGA GAMES 2   -  Pressed 5/94 - BBS Ready! < Newest CD's Available!!
 CD-STONE - Free With Purchase! Commercial Grade CDROM Drive Utilities!
 *=-* Visa/MasterCard/Money Orders/Personal Check/Cashier's Check! *-=*
  Orders:1-800-843-7990  Fax:[phone]  Info.:1-602-770-0000
   **** Mention where you saw this add for bonus pricing! ****
  The Profit Group - 824 E. FT. Lowell Road - Tucson, AZ. 85719
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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 5899
  To: JOHN MILTON                              Date: 05/30/94 10:46a
Subj: Free CDROM Disc! Free!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello John!

JM>What is on this Free cd?  Is it shareware, games, adult or
JM>what? I'd like to know more before sending in my funds,
JM>rvsp :)

 It comes with over 300 MegaBytes of shareware and our custom written
 CDROM Drive BenchMark and test utilities. Granted, the shareware is not
 the most current, but some of the items on it offer "Timeless"
 enjoyment no matter what the age may be (i.e. SwimSuit GIFs, sound
 files and demos as well as a variety of animation files).

 If you're not sure you want to 'take the plunge' on this CD, just ask
 some of the other individuals in this echo what they think about it.

 I'm like you in this respect, in that I always wait for the reviews to
 come out before I make a decision either way.

 Thank you for your interest John, and if I can answer any other
 questions for you fire away.

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group
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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 5900
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 05/30/94 10:48a
Subj: Flyer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Sam!

SF>Scott,
SF>    Please send me a flyer at:

 I put it on my 'to do' list for Tuesday. You should see it by the end
of
 the week!

 Take care,

 Scott
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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 5901
  To: TROY COSSON                              Date: 05/30/94 10:54a
Subj: Mega_CD_ROM_2                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Troy!

TC>Hi, I just recently ordered several CD's through your company and the
TC>one called Mega CD Rom 2 acts as though it is a bad CD. It makes my
TC>drive sound like it has a floppy in it thats about to die. It also takes
TC>a lot longer for the cd to initially recognize that its there and
TC>sometimes it errors out.. What if anything can i do about this..
TC>The INVOICE number was 42987.                    Troy Cosson

 Tell you what Troy, make a drink coaster out of that one. When I get
 back in the office on Tuesday I'll send you out a new one. Do me a
 favor if you would Sir, call me at 602-770-0000 Ext. 110 when you
 receive this message. My 'to do' list for next week is a mile long
 and I just want to make sure that I don't let anything go in the
 frenzy.

 Best Regards,

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 5902
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 05/30/94 11:09a
Subj: free                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Geoffrey!

GC>how do i get my free CD?  please reply ASAP.  Thanks

 Glad to you interested Geoffrey! All you have to do is look for one
 of my FREE CDROM ads. I post them periodically in this echo, the CDROM
 ForSale echo and the Commercial ForSale echo. If you can't find the Ad,
 then you can get it by this method: Get out a piece of paper and write
 at the top "Send Me My Free CDROM Disc As Seen On Fidonet". Put the
 return address where you want the CD shipped to on this as well, and
 enclose the appropriate shipping and handling charge. For Canada it is
 $3.00 (US), and in the contiguous United States it is $2.00. Funds may
 be Personal Check (Drawn on US Bank), Money Order, Cashier's Check or
 US Currency (Not Recommended). Make funds out to "The Profit Group".
 Put all of this into an envelope and mail to the following address:

        The Profit Group
        824 East Ft. Lowell Road
        Tucson, Arizona   85719

 As soon as we receive your letter we will ship the CD out to you.

 If I can be of further service Geoffrey give me a holler!

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5903
  To: DON FINNELL                              Date: 05/29/94 10:17p
Subj: Winbox 2                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DF:>have them yet.  What class mail did you ship them at?  I know you sent it
DF:>insured, but I think it should have been here by now.  Also, have you sent
t
DF:>WIN-Box 2 disc out yet?  My Users are bugging me about them because I made
i

Don,

They shipped out on 4/27 by Priority Mail to your APO address.  The
insurance tag # is V-507043924 if you need that for your records.  Let me
know, and we can issue a trace from this end.

As for Winbox 2, it encountered numerous delays, but was finally
premastered last week.  They will begin shipping around the first week in
June.

Keep me up to date!

.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5904
  To: JOE STEWART                              Date: 05/29/94 10:18p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP 3!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JS:>Yo Mike.. I am interested in the cream of the crop 3 and the 11th hour..
Do

JS:>you guys ship to australia?
JS:>If so .. how much for the shipping etc.?

We do indeed.  Normal insured airmail is $14 for up to one pound, and $6
for each additional pound.  (About 4 CD's per pound).  Subtract $3 if you
don't want insurance.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 509-457-2892
 FAX [phone] * BBS 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX  $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5905
  To: ANTHONY GOMEZ                            Date: 05/29/94 10:18p
Subj: ADULT CD TITLES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AG:>                Where's House of Sleeping Beauties.. Buttmans European
AG:>Adventures...Scissors & Stones Interactive .... Virtual Vixens ....
AG:>NueroDancer...etc..???

We have Scissors & Stones in stock at $49.10, and expect Virtual Vixens
in this week sometime.

later,
.\\ike

 * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline contains 100% NutraSweet

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5906
  To: THOMAS WONG                              Date: 05/29/94 10:18p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT EMERALD!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW:> MS>  SOFTWARE VAULT EMERALD * The ONLY all-1994 shareware CD!
TW:> MS> BBS-Ready..$17.50 THE 11TH HOUR * Exciting sequel to 7th Guest. Don't
m
TW:> MS> out!.......$59.00 CD WINBOX 2 * The newest Windows CD! 650mb of all
93/
TW:> MS> files!......$25.00

TW:>     I bought the SWV Platinum from you guys and recently got the NOWL12 as
TW:>well (from a local dealer). I was wondering what's the dupe rate of SWV
Emer
TW:>to both SVW Plat or NOWL12?

It's around 5% to NO12, and 0% to SV Platinum.  Now in stock at $17.50.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95


 * SLMR 2.1a * Dawn crept across the lawn, searching for her car keys.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5907
  To: DANIEL TSUI                              Date: 05/29/94 10:18p
Subj: cd rom echo messages                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

SM:> DT> Hi, I'm looking for CDrom echo messages from September/October of
1993.
SM:> DT> anyone has them can you please let me know.

SM:>They are on the Shareware Studio 4 CD.

Indeed they are, and VERY interesting reading too!  We have the Shareware
Studio 4's in stock at $17.50 if you'd like one.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5908
  To: CARLOS PISANI                            Date: 05/29/94 10:18p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT EMERALD!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CP:> MS> SOFTWARE VAULT EMERALD * The ONLY all-1994 shareware CD! $17.50

CP:> I want this cd!Use the card number that I sent you...I also want "Cream of
CP:> the Crop III"...
CP:> Thanx for the cd's (Shareware Studio IV etc), I received them today (27)!

Gotcha down Carlos!

Thanks,
.\\ike

 * SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5909
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94 10:19p
Subj: CD WINBOX 2!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           |      Title:  CD WINBOX 2                $25.00     |
     Starvector is accepting pre-orders on what promises to be the most
     popular Windows shareware CD for 1994!  The ONLY FULL Windows
     CD-ROM with ALL 1993/94 file dates! * BBS-Ready w/ FILES.BBS in each
     directory + separate text directory.  All who pre-order will receive
     FREE shipping, AND a free Washington State lottery ticket!  Your order
     could win you up to $10,000 in CASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE.  CALL FOR QUANTITY DISCOUNTS.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5910
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94 10:19p
Subj: $10 CD-ROM SPECIALS                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ************************* $10 CD-ROM SPECIALS! **************************
 HIV/AIDS Resource Guide   CD Winbox                Too Much Shareware
 Animals S.D. Zoo (Mac)    Jokes & Pranks           1001 Utilities
 Learning Adventure        Dictionaries & Language  Chinese Games
 Business Assistant        Bibles & Religion        Computer Reference Lib.
 Shareware Avalanche       Complete Bookshop        Encyclopedia of Sound 1
 Clipart Warehouse         Gardening                Ham Radio 3.0
 Game Arena                Hugo's House of Horrors  Encyclopedia of Sound 2
 Home/Office Legal Guide   Windoware                VGA Spectrum
 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo?  Odo??

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94 10:19p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 12....$24.90                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           |   Title:  NIGHT OWL 12            Price:  $24.90   |

     * Night Owl 11 + 12..........(All '93 & '94 + No Dupes!).......$49
     * Night Owl 10.1 + 11 + 12...(All '93 & '94 + No Dupes!).......$69
     * Night Owl 9 + 10.1 + 11 + 12........(No Dupes!)..............$85
     * Night Owl 12 + Pier 4.....(The two newest on the market!)....$47
     * Night Owl 12 + Pier 4 + Software Vault Emerald...............$63

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * ... A fool and his money soon become a Sysop!

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From: JASON TALLEY                           Number: 5912
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  6:03p
Subj: Cd-rom & Pro Audio Spectr               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:CD-Rom & Pro Audio Spectrum                                 N
I have a Creative Labs CD and a Pro Audio Plus sound card... The problem
is that the cables will not fit from the CD to the Sound Board... Has
anyone else made this blundering mistake of buying an incompatible sound
card for their CD and been able to get it to work... I've tried rig job
I could think of to get it to work... If anyone has a Sony CD, this is
definately the card for you!  If someone wants to upgrade to this card,
I would trade for a SB Pro... They are SUPPOSEDLY equal, other than the
fact that the SB pro will work w/ my drive!!

Jason

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From: FRANK MOYER                            Number: 5913
  To: EBEN YONG                                Date: 05/30/94  6:32p
Subj: Lands of Lore CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, thanks for the offer to trade. But, I saw that game "Day of the Tentacle"
and I am not interested in. Thank You anyway.  intrrested in.

        Frank Moyer

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From: BRIAN LEWIS                            Number: 5914
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 05/30/94 11:49p
Subj: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JOE was overheard talking in the dark fidoalleyways to ALL

JR>>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
JR>Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:
JR>2@2659 Satisfaction guaranteed....
JR>            ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831
JR>24hrs P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs
JR>16.8k ZYX Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS
JR>WELCOME<<<<< NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)
JR>24HOURS 7DAYS

I'm about to get a CD-ROM drive.  Please send a catalog to me!

Brian Lewis
1346 Military Road
Bogalusa, Louisiana 70427-2966


Thanks!

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 5915
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  3:25p
Subj: TOSHIBA SCSI CDROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Toshiba XM-3201B CDROM Drive  !! NEW !!

  Includes Caddy and Manual.  325ms access, 156k transfer rate.
  30 day warranty.  Work great.  MPC standard compliant.  True
  Standard SCSI Interface (not proprietary).  Dip switches for
  ID setting and parity/arbitration.  Internal 5.25 Half Height
  1.5 Meg Sec Burst.
  ..$130.00  Only 1 left.

205-837-5053 voice
205-721-0189 fax


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From: JOHN ASHCRAFT                          Number: 5916
  To: WILLIAM COOKE                            Date: 05/29/94  1:32p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


WC> > Make me an offer on these unregistered brand new CDs!
WC> >         Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego <deluxe>
WC> >         Just Grandma and Me
WC> >         Aldus Photostyler SE.

WC>What exactly is Photostyler SE?  What I mean is, is it a
WC>smaller ver, of the real Photostyler, or is it the hole prog?
WC>If your not sure, just say how many meg is in the CD.  I can
WC>tell from that.
WC>--- TBBS v2.1/NM
WC> * Origin: Direct Connect BBS - Phila, PA  5 Gigs
WC>215-535-6579 (1:273/919)
Hi William. I just checked my personal copy and it has over 5.4 mb of stuff on
it. I haven't used it and can't tell what is on it or if it is a demo
copy--but if it is, it's got a lot of stuff on it.
        The copy I have for sale is an unopened unregistered one. Let me know
if your interested! Thanks for your inquiry.
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From: LAST SURVIVOR                          Number: 5917
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 05/29/94 10:17a
Subj: CD's for trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG> Yes I still have it. ALready have titles you mentioned though. As far as
MG>educational I'm looking for newer Living Books (T. & Hare, New Kid...)

Well don't have those educational ones, if ya really interested in
those, I could get a list for you.  Undersea Adventure, America
Adventure I remember plus some other Living books ones I think I may
have.

As for Microcosm, how about 20 bucks for starters?  I don't know how
much ya want for it, so I'm offering.  (PS. can ya give ya # again,
calling ya would be better).

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From: LAST SURVIVOR                          Number: 5918
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 05/29/94 11:44p
Subj: Re: Man Enough                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EP>oh just wonderful....I bought this game used so returning it is not an opt
EP>any longer since the guy moved....<sigh>

Sorry to hear that.  Hope something turns up for you.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5919
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 05/28/94  2:25p
Subj: Re: cd rom echo messages                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


In a message to Daniel Tsui <05-24-94 09:34> Steve Mann wrote:

SM>>  DT> Hi, I'm looking for CDrom echo messages from September/October
SM>> of 1993. If
SM>>  DT> anyone has them can you please let me know.

Smells like 'Discovery' for a lawsuit to me :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 5920
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/30/94 10:28a
Subj: Re: AMIGA_CDROM - DEALERS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On This Day And Age Of Mon 30-May-1994  6:09 , Brice Fleckenstein Bellowed:
BF> @MSGID: 1:231/190 2de53878
BF> >Well, pick up the echo there then, and advertise! :)

BF>  I do - you do NOT see my "ads" over here - they're a LOT longer than fit
BF> into
BF> the 10 line rule!

BF>  Oops - you WERE talking about CDROM_SALE, I presume?

No, AMIGA_CDROM. :)

Mario Bonelli - Gates Systems Owner - Striving For A Better Amiga!
Gates Systems - USR Courier 21.6 DS/HST v.32terbo - Freqable! 2.4G ADS/SAN
Moderating Fido AMIGA_CDROM, AMIGA_SALE, CNET, AMY_COMMS, & AMIGA_HAM
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From: EBEN YONG                              Number: 5921
  To: FRANK MOYER                              Date: 05/29/94  5:58p
Subj: Lands of Lore CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Frank.  I noticed on the net that you had Lands of Lore CD-Rom.  I have a
game called, Day of the Tentacle CD-Rom by Lucas Arts.  It has full voice
digitization and excellent playability and graphics.  How about a trade?  I'll
throw in the hint book for free!

Please e-mail me or better yet call me at 800-342-8462 extension 7523 M-F 8-5.
 Thanks.

Eben

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From: DOUG BERCZIK                           Number: 5922
  To: JONO GREENE                              Date: 05/31/94 10:02p
Subj: Doom on CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The computer stores in Palm Beach are selling a demo version of DOOM on
cd's that is inferior to the freeware version that can be downloaded off
of many BBS's.  I believe that they will be selling a windows version of
DOOM around X-mas and it is supposed to be available in software
stores (only a rumour but I thought I would pass it on).


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From: JEFF GREGOIRE                          Number: 5923
  To: CHARLIE STRAKER                          Date: 05/30/94  5:36p
Subj: Re: cd rom help                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I finally relized that so I took the thing back to the store and had them fix
it. Seems it had screwed up my autoexec/config.sys files. They got it working
and now I am happy. Thanks for the message.



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From: DENNIS LIEBURN                         Number: 5924
  To: SKIP PERSINGER                           Date: 05/28/94  2:06a
Subj: Dak (Sony) Cd-units                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I heard Skip Persinger talking about DAK (Sony) CD-UNITS
SP >Some time ago DAK sold the OLD sony drives in a external case BSR-SONY
SP >6201-20. I now have 2 of these units on my bbs. I would like to stay
SP >with these older drives if I could, at least f
or a while yet. So I'm
SP >looking to find at least one more of these drive. If you have one of
SP >these old timers drives and don't want a lot of money for it please le
SP >me know here or call me Delaware County BBS 614-363-4695.
SP >Skip...

What do y
ou consider a lot of money?  I've got one here gathering dust.


Round Table BBS [phone]
A true Windows GUI BBS.
[e-mail]
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From: MARCOS BROLIO                          Number: 5925
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 05/25/94  9:54a
Subj: Adult Cd's $12.95 & Up!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SH> *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* The Profit Group *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
SH>  FAO 1 - 651 MegaBytes (XXX) - BBS Ready - $29.00 -------<  All 3
SH>  FAO 2 - 695 MegaBytes (XXX) - BBS Ready - $29.00 -------<   For
SH>  FAO 3 - 693 MegaBytes (XXX) - BBS Ready - $29.00 -------< $69.00!!
SH>  FAO GOLD 1 - 611 MegaBytes (XXX) - BBS Ready - $39.00 --<  All 3
SH>  FAO GOLD 2 - 617 MegaBytes (XXX) - BBS Ready - $39.00 --<   For
SH>  FAO GOLD 3 - 609 MegaBytes (XXX) - BBS Ready - $39.00 --< $99.00!!
SH>  **BONUS** FAO 6-PACK - All 6 FAO CDROMS - $139.00!! **BONUS**
SH>   T&A 2 The MaXX - 613 MegaBytes (XXX) - $12.95 (BBS Price Only)
SH>  Shipping Costs (Contiguous U.S.) 2-Day $6.00  OverNight $15.00
SH>  Orders:1-800-843-7990  Fax:[phone]  Info.:1-602-770-0000
SH>   The Profit Group - 824 E. FT. Lowell Road - Tucson, AZ. 85719
SH>___
SH> X QMPro 1.52 X Forbidden Subjects - Everything They Don't Want You To Kn

SH>--- Maximus 2.01wb
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Hi,
Can you send a catalog ??
I see a notice of Profit Press in a magazine called CD-Rom Wolrd.
Are you work there ??
And this placa have a Cd that i want.
This CD is: FORBIDDEN SUBJECTS (US$ 39) . Can you get it for me ??
How i pay you ?
Sorry about any english errors, but i talk, better write, ok ??
Regards.
        Marcos.


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From: MARCOS BROLIO                          Number: 5926
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/25/94  9:54a
Subj: 5' 10-Paks Now In                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS> INTERNET INFO * Covers almost every subject about the Internet......$17.80


MS>--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
MS>(1:3407/101)

Hi, Mike.
I'm interessed for these above.
Can you send me a catalog what you have ??
How i pay to you ??

Regards.
                Marcos.

        E-mail: [e-mail]
                [e-mail]
                or in Fidonet (4:801/64) - Marcos Brolio.

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From: MARCOS BROLIO                          Number: 5927
  To: PHIL ELLIOT                              Date: 05/25/94  9:54a
Subj: Myst Completed.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PE>Hi All.

PE>I have completed Myst a few weeks ago and have kept a record of what to do
PE>throughout the game.

PE>If you are looking for a clue in an area drop me a note with the following
PE>info:

PE>1. How much of a clue do you want ? ie just a hint in the right direction or
PE>the solve for that puzzel ?  (Hints are best)

Please, i need a hint on how exit of the ship into the rock. Only one
room i can go at same time. I discover a battery in tower, is it
possible turn on the lights on room inside ship ??

PE>2. A brief note on where you are in the game  and what you have tried.

I have turn on battery. but now ????

PE>It may take a few days to get a reply depending on where you are.

PE>Happy Mysting!

PE>--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
PE> * Origin: Melbourne PC User Group BBS (3:632/309)

Regards.
        Marcos.
                E-mail: [e-mail]
                        [e-mail]

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From: MARCOS BROLIO                          Number: 5928
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 05/25/94  9:54a
Subj: Blowout Sale!!!!!!!!!!!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GC>I have the following cd for sale. shipping is three dallars an order.


GC>AirCraft Encyclopedia $26.00 Aviation
GC>Jets And Props $21.00 Aviation
GC>World of Flight $32.00 Aviation

GC>Hacker Chronicles $27.00 Hobbies

GC>MegaMovie Guide $42.00 Media
GC>Video Movie Guide $30.00 Media

GC>Forbidden Subjects $42.00 Shareware

GC>All music Guide $46.00 Sound

GC>If interested, please leave reply or send payment to Capital CDs,
GC>Geoffrey Cylwik, 817 Dante St, New Orleans,LA 70118.  Or Call
GC>[phone].  thanks
GC>___
GC> X POW 1.0  On Trial X Powerline Offline reader for Windows - New Windows OL

GC>--- Maximus 2.01wb
GC> * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)

Hi, it's me again.
Can you explain me what each does ??
I looking for a CD (music) guide, like the edited by Donald Clark.
with name of Group, history of group and all your disks (USA, Europe,
and Japan).
        Regards.
        Marcos

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From: MARCOS BROLIO                          Number: 5929
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 05/25/94  9:54a
Subj: !Free 2200+ Cd's Catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
JR>Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:  2@2659
JR>Satisfaction guaranteed....
JR>            ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831 24hrs
JR>P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
JR>Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<
JR>NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)  24HOURS 7DAYS


JR>--- MsgToss 2.0
JR> * Origin: Home of config.sys - Discount CD's - v.216.296.4446 (1:157/479)

Hi, I want a catalog what you have.

My adress is:
Marcos Brolio
R Edson 513 ap 71
Campo Belo - SP - SP
Brasil     04618-032
[ ]'s
        Marcos.
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From: MARIO AGUILAR                          Number: 5930
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 05/25/94 10:04p
Subj: Re: !Free 2200+ Cd's Catalog!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Joe,

 JR>>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...

    Please, send me a catalog.

My adress is:
                    Mario Aguilar
                    Rua Fiandeiras, 545 ap 91A
                    Vila Olimpia - Sao Paulo - SP
                    Brasil     04545-003
[ ]'s

... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: PEDRO VIEIRA                           Number: 5931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/94 10:41p
Subj: What about a CD for Laptop.             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Hello my friends.

        I've got an Epson ActionNote 4000 Laptop and I wanna attach to it a
        CD-ROM drive. Well, is it possible?

        Does it exist a CD-ROM drive to be connected on a Laptop machine?

        Thanks & Regards.


[]s ßy :

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╚──────────────┘  [Fidonet 4:802/13 # RBT 12:1221/15 # Rionet 1021:10/4]

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From: WILLIAM COOKE                          Number: 5932
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/30/94  2:26p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 >  No. That drive has a rated limit of 540 Megs for MODE ONE (2048
 > data bytes per
 > sector) discs, and 620 or so Meg rated limit for the far-more-common
 > Mode Two
 > (2304 data bytes per sector) discs - like virtually EVERY OTHER
 > CD-ROM drive on
 > the market.

I was replying to this message, I wasn't asking it.   If I remembered who I
left it to I'd forward it to them.  Most CD-ROMS out on the market can auto
switch between the modes, so when the person saw 540meg, they didn't realize
that the mode switches over when necessary.
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From: WILLIAM COOKE                          Number: 5933
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/30/94  2:27p
Subj: Re: NON-MPC DRIVES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 >  $79 commonly at the computer shows I've been at this month....

That's prety cheap.  Though I saw a MPC drivr for $99.  For  ∩$79 it probably
isn't MPC, though for BBS use a slow drive works fine.
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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 5934
  To: RON BRIDGEMON                            Date: 05/25/94  9:16p
Subj: Re: Jurassic Park CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Ron Bridgemon to All <=-

 RB> I am having A LOT of trouble allocating enough system memory for
 RB> Jurassic Park, I need 588k of free conv. memory and 2048k expanded
 RB> memory, I can get this much memory except that is without the cdrom
 RB> drivers. I can barely get 544k of free conv. memory. Can anyone help
 RB> me????????

How many megs do you have, if you have 4 megs you oughta go out
and buy QEMM, before I had QEMM I only had around 570k using
dos 6.2 memmaker, after QEMM I got 630K this is with a cd-rom and
sound card and everything else. Bill


... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 5935
  To: DAVE BEATRICE                            Date: 05/30/94  7:04p
Subj: Re: cd's for trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> JK> Re:Groliers for Mad Dog McCree.. JK> Dave, I just received Mad
-> Dog last Sat. in another trade.. So, I won't JK> be needing 2! <g>..
-> I haven't received the Groliers yet, I'll check JK> back and see what
-> other trades you may have IF it is a 92 or 93.. JK> Thanks!
-> Ok, Jim.  Thanx.

 Are you still looking for a Groliers Encyclopedia?? I have a Software
Toolworks (Groliers) '92, bundled/disc only.. $18.00 shipped OR what do
you have to trade (besides Mad Dog!).. Let me know! Jim (602)-486-9869
or reply!!


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From: NINA IRWIN                             Number: 5936
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  4:15p
Subj: Software Vault - Emerald                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just received this CD and attempted to set it up with Romdoor 311.
When I finished I found that only the name, size and date are showing
up.  The description area is blank.  When I looked at the text files for
each area the description is there.  Has anyone else had this problem?
Anyone got any answers?

Today is the first day I've used Romdoor311, I just upgraded from 3.10.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5937
  To: AARON SANFORD                            Date: 05/30/94  7:34p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Intl 800 Number              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 |-----------------|Aaron Sanford wrote:
AS>Maybe someday soon !!  We're looking into the possiblity of an
AS>International 800 service, but as yet have not made that decission.
AS>
AS>Sorry to interrupt but I think us folks in Japan would
AS>--REALLY-- use an intl. 800 number.  Try it, you might be
AS>surprised at the results.

AS>Aaron
 |-------------------------------------|

Thank you Aaron for your comment and we're pleased to hear such a service
would be of interest to you.

At the current time, the majority of our sales are here in the states as
well as Europe, South America and South Africa. Our decission to offer
a toll free service is basied on the volume of business being generated
by a particular region. According to our records and information provided
to us by other companies, Asia at the current time, is not a hot bed of
sales on any level of computer related products. It's possiable that the
trade barriers imposted by your country could have something to do with
that as well as certain trade restrictions, I can't say for sure. But I
can assure you this, if we do see an upward swing in this area, we will
certainly look into the possiablity of offering such a service !

Again, thank you for your interest and your suggestion. It's always
nice to see positive user input as it helps in the everyday decision
making.

Thank You....

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: GRANT PASSA                            Number: 5938
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  5:16a
Subj: dracula unleashed\journeyman's project  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a walkthrough for these games. can anyone help me?

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From: PAULA COE                              Number: 5939
  To: CHRISTIAN BARTSCH                        Date: 05/31/94 12:29a
Subj: Re: Zork hint needed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Christian,
    You have to take the boat that you rent from Ben. The way to get the boat
    to run is by using the grey rats found in the general store. The one that
    you had to pick the lock with the wire from the bra in order to get in.
    Anyway, when you get there, ask her about your recordings and inventory,
    then give her the letter. She will give you her walking stick. Don't give
    up on her, keep going back to visit and she will eventually give you her
    bats. That's as far as I have gotten, hope it helps you out. Take care
    and have a good one.


                                                L8r,
                                                    Paula


   If anyone else has any hints, PLEASE share, I could use the help.

... I'm as confused as a baby at a topless bar.
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From: JIM PETERSON                           Number: 5940
  To: DARREN YAN                               Date: 05/31/94  7:02a
Subj: Best Encycopedia CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I HAVE TRIED GROILERS AND COMPTONS IN MY OPINION COMPTONS WAS BETTER, BUT THEY
ARE COMPAREABLE.

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 5941
  To: JOHN ASHCRAFT                            Date: 05/31/94  6:40a
Subj: CD's for sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John - if it were not the SE version, I would make a counter offer.  I have
seen it go for between $10 and $15 on this board.  If you don't sell it and
want to reconsider, just drop me a note.  Jerry

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From: DU LAM                                 Number: 5942
  To: PETER PRASAD                             Date: 05/31/94  7:39a
Subj: Re: cd-rom & sound card                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PP> Is it possible to connect the cd-rom cable to both cd-rom
PP> DL> interface card and the sound blaster? Please help me out thanks...
PP>     This is a no no, however it is possiable to plug the audio output
PP>     from your CD ROM to the SB basic and have the audio output, you may
PP>     require a special cable for that, see your owners manuale.

Thanks for your information Peter, I already plugged the audio output
from my cd rom to the SB basic, It works ok but when I play 1 cd rom
game which requires 2 megs of expand memory and minimum of 580k
conventional memory, so I changed my config and autoexac files but still
only monitor works fine, once in a while audio can be heard at speakers,
Is it because I have a slow cpu 386dx25? or something else?
___
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From: STEVE ANTES                            Number: 5943
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 05/29/94  8:55p
Subj: Re: Free CD!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Scott Huffman to All <=-

 SH> *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*  FREE CDROM DISC OFFER  *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 SH> Do Not Call Our 1-800 number for this offer! This offer is ONLY
 SH> valid in the Contiguous United States And Canada! Yes, Canada too!
 SH> Shipping/Handling Charges:     Contiguous U.S. - $2.50

 Uh-oh.  Am I excluded specifically?  I'm a GI stationed in Germany, but
 I have an APO address.  NY, ya know.

 Before I go overboard, I ordered from Profit a few months ago.  Quite happy
 with what I got.  Snagged last years discs at bargain basement prices.
 They came with the Mega-Demo disc.  Not the freebie we're talking about is it?

 Lemme hear at [e-mail], please.  Or put it here,
 if you REALLY wanna.  I heard there was another GI over here somewhere...

        Tschüß,
            Steve

... A wise man knows everything - A shrewd man knows everyone.
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From: BEN HARMON                             Number: 5944
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/28/94  7:19p
Subj: Night Owl 12...                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hello Mike!

In a message to Adam Lotz <05/24/94> Mike Shannon wrote:

> AL:>(Oh, and BTW: So when is Night Owl going to learn to clean up their a
> AL:>Take a look at the disc... in an hour and a half of playing with it,
>found commercial program, 1 "hacked" shareware program, and the names of qu
> AL:>different notorious-for-software-piracy groups throughout the files..
MS> YEESH

Yo... mind telling us the names of the commercial and hacked files? It
would save me some work as I just ordered NO12.

Thanks in advance

Ben

RATS BBS Sulzbach-Rosenberg Germany 6 Gigs On-Line 09661-9633 21.6 USR

 * WCE 1.5/2217 * Birthplace of WcEDIT 504-796-5860 THE NDE BBS


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From: BERT VAAGS                             Number: 5945
  To: JOHN KING                                Date: 05/27/94  3:40p
Subj: Cd-rom prices for europe                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello John!

 JK>>      Bert are there any 'hacking' cd's from Europe???? example: BBs
 JK>> hacking, cracking games, "bad" programs, boxez, anything to do with
 JK>> hacking???? Get back to me.....ThankZ

Not as I know, the CD's which I sell are all from the USA, there are not so
much company's overhere that have their own titles.
But I will look around for you :-)

Greetings: Bert...

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From: BERT VAAGS                             Number: 5946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94  3:43p
Subj: CD-rom prices for Europe 1/5            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We have always the next titles in stock for sales in Europe:
Titles:               Prices:     |  $   |    ƒ.    |  DM.   |   Bfr.  |
DR. Windows Genuide II              20.-     40.-      37.-      730.-
DR. Games for Windows               20.-     40.-      37.-      730.-
DR. Games for Dos                   20.-     40.-      37.-      730.-
DR. Shareware-Gold II               22.-     44.-      41.-      800.-
DR. Cliparts                        22.-     44.-      41.-      800.-
DR. OS/2 gold                       22.-     44.-      41.-      800.-
DR. Music Lab                       22.-     44.-      41.-      800.-
DR. Reference                       23.-     46.-      42.-      840.-
For Dealers we have special prices, Fax: [phone] and we will sent you
the latest pricelist of 1000 titles, by Fax or E-mail.
Prices excl. posting* Order by Fax: [phone]* Or netmail 2:283/401.17
Eurocheque/COD/VISA* Prepay: ABN/Amro Netherlands 44.19.58.389
Stadtsparkasse Bocholt Deutschland: 428.500.35
BeVaMu Multimedia Eekelerweg 3, 7102 ES Winterswijk, The Netherlands

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From: BERT VAAGS                             Number: 5947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94  3:43p
Subj: CD-rom prices for Europe 2/5            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We have always the next titles in stock for sales in Europe:
Titles:               Prices:     |  $   |    ƒ.    |  DM.   |   Bfr.  |
DR. Music Lab                       22.-     44.-      41.-      800.-
DR. Reference                       23.-     46.-      42.-      840.-
DR. Graphics                        23.-     46.-      42.-      840.-
DR. Communication                   23.-     46.-      42.-      840.-
Encyclopedia of sound 2             20.-     40.-      37.-      730.-
Guinnes disk of records 1993        35.-     69.-      65.-     1255.-
Ham Radio Chestnut                  20.-     40.-      37.-      730.-
Win platinum                        22.-     44.-      41.-      800.-
The Animals of San Diego Zoo        27.-     55.-      51.-     1000.-
For Dealers we have special prices, Fax: [phone] and we will sent you
the latest pricelist of 1000 titles, by Fax or E-mail.
Prices excl. posting* Order by Fax: [phone]* Or netmail 2:283/401.17
Eurocheque/COD/VISA* Prepay: ABN/Amro Netherlands 44.19.58.389
Stadtsparkasse Bocholt Deutschland: 428.500.35
BeVaMu Multimedia, The Netherlands. Eekelerweg 3, 7102 ES Winterswijk.

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From: BERT VAAGS                             Number: 5948
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94  3:43p
Subj: CD-rom prices for Europe 3/5            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We have always the next titles in stock for sales in Europe:
Titles:               Prices:     |  $   |    ƒ.    |  DM.   |   Bfr.  |
CiCa for Windows                    22.-     44.-      41.-      800.-
Shareware overload trio             32.-     65.-      60.-     1180.-
Dinoaurus MM Windows                32.-     65.-      60.-     1180.-
Languages of the World              34.-     69.-      64.-     1255.-
World Atlas 4.0 w/o box             32.-     65.-      60.-     1255.-
CD/Winbox 5-94                      45.-     90.-      82.-     1620.-
Night-Owls 12, 5-94                 40.-     80.-      72.-     1460.-
Pier 4                              40.-     80.-      72.-     1460.-
NEW !! Cream Of The Crops 3 !!      40.-     80.-      72.-     1460.-
For dealers we have special prices, Fax: [phone] and we will sent you
our latest pricelist of 1000 titles, by Fax or by E-mail.
Prices excl. posting* Order by Fax: [phone]* Or netmail 2:283/401.17
Eurocheque/COD/VISA* Prepay: ABN/Amro Netherlands 44.19.58.389
Prepay: Stadtsparkasse Bocholt Deutschland: 428.500.35
BeVaMu Multimedia, The Netherlands. Eekelerweg 3, 7102 ES Winterswijk.

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From: BERT VAAGS                             Number: 5949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94  3:44p
Subj: CD-rom prices for Europe 4/5            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We have always the next titles in stock for sales in Europe:
Titles:               Prices:     |  $   |    ƒ.    |  DM.   |   Bfr.  |
To many type fonts                  19.-     38.-      36.-      690.-
Adventures in Heaven                22.-     44.-      40.-      800.-
All new cliparts                    25.-     50.-      46.-      910.-
Grolliers Encyclopedia 6.0-1993     60.-    120.-     110.-     2200.-
Microsoft Encarta 1994 !!          140.-    280.-     255.-     5100.-
Space & Astronomy                   32.-     65.-      60.-     1180.-
CD Karaoke                          24.-     48.-      44.-      880.-
Great city's of the world 1 & 2     32.-     65.-      60.-     1180.-
For dealers we have special prices, Fax: [phone] and we will sent you
our latest pricelist of 1000 titles, by Fax or by E-mail.
Prices excl. posting* Order by Fax: [phone]* Or netmail 2:283/401.17
Eurocheque/COD/VISA* Prepay: ABN/Amro Netherlands 44.19.58.389
Prepay: Stadtsparkasse Bocholt Deutschland: 428.500.35
BeVaMu Multimedia, The Netherlands. Eekelerweg 3, 7102 ES Winterswijk.

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From: BERT VAAGS                             Number: 5950
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94  3:44p
Subj: CD-rom prices for Europe 5/5            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We have always the next titles in stock for sales in Europe:
Titles:               Prices:     |  $   |    ƒ.    |  DM.   |   Bfr.  |
Hobbes O/S 2 Archives               20.-     40.-      37.-      730.-
Secrets of Monkey Island            29.-     60.-      54.-     1080.-
Simtel 20                           22.-     44.-      41.-      800.-
Jets & Probs 2 cd set               30.-     60.-      56.-     1100.-
Giga Games                          27.-     56.-      52.-     1000.-
Hidden obsessions     (adult)       42.-     84.-      77.-     1530.-
Busty Babes II        (adult)       43.-     87.-      80.-     1590.-
Adult Picture Libary  (adult)       34.-     68.-      63.-     1250.-
Amateur Model         (adult)       40.-     80.-      73.-     1470.-
For dealers we have very sharp special prices, sent an fax with your Chamber of
Commerce number to us and we'll sent you an pricelist, by crash-mail or fax.
Prices excl. posting* Order by Fax: [phone]* Or netmail 2:283/401.17
Eurocheque/COD/VISA* Prepay: ABN/Amro Netherlands 44.19.58.389
Prepay: Stadtsparkasse Bocholt Deutschland: 428.500.35
BeVaMu Multimedia, The Netherlands. Eekelerweg 3, 7102 ES Winterswijk.

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From: RAFA LATIEGUI                          Number: 5951
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 05/28/94  8:31p
Subj: CD catalogue free                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please, send me a catalogue to

    P.O. box 21091
    28009 Madrid
    Spain

Regards
          Rafa

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 5952
  To: SCOTT SAVO                               Date: 05/28/94  2:04p
Subj: ****HELP! WHICH ONE DO I                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SS>hello all!!
SS>            here's the deal...
SS>             i am looking for a GOOD cd rom drive , mpc2, fast so i won't ha
SS>to upgrade for awhile, SCSI interface, with a good sound card and as much
SS>software as possible. i have about $750.00 dollars to spend.

...for that price, you can buy several.

SS>are the triple speeds worth the cost? or is a double speed good enough?

Personally, I don't think the triple speeds (or the SCSI models) are
worth the huge difference in cost.  I'm currently getting the
double-speed caddyless Panasonic for $156 with controller, cables, and
driver (and that one supports up to four drives on one card).  You could
get four of them and still have $150 left over to spend on discs.

And just yesterday I bought six new Philips caddyless (single-speed)
drives with controller and cables for $65 each... only about half again
the price of a 5-1/4" floppy drive.  Price for all six?  Less than $400,
plus tax.  Sure, they're not the fastest thing out there... but for a
BBS that wants to have lots of gigs online, it's a real cheap solution!
And not a bad one, either... no long delays while discs get changed.

The other thing is that the triple-speed drives are going to cost half
as much in a year.  Buy one today and you're going to feel like an idiot
before Christmas.  You're paying a huge premium to have "the fastest"
and before year-end the quad-speed will be "the fastest" and the premium
you paid now will look foolish.

The _biggest_ mistake one can make regarding CD-ROM is not having one.
(Or more, even).

SS>do i go with scsi ( no i don't have scsi now. this would be the first scsi
SS>device i have dealt with)?

SCSI is nice, no doubt about that.  But it's AWFUL expensive, both for
the card and for the drives you add later.  Frankly, I just don't think
it's worth the premium, for most people.

SS>which is the best bundel for the money out there?

Used to be that bundles were the only way to get a good collection of
discs at a reasonable price.  Today, you can get a huge choice of
excellent discs and at very good prices without having to bundle, and
often the bundles are more than anything else a way to dump the
less-good stuff onto unwary buyers.

SS>there is a computer show this weekend (5/22) and i was hopeing to get it the
SS>all help would be greatly apreseated...

Well, maybe it will help somebody else, even if you've already bought.
In any case, enjoy!

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 5953
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 05/28/94  2:14p
Subj: 6 Cd's Just $49.00!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SH| *=-=-=*  The Profit Group *=-=*   New Product Update *=-=-=*
SH| THE BEST OF SHAREWARE - 598 MegaBytes <-------------< Any One
SH| THE BEST OF WINDOWSWARE - 583 MegaBytes <-----------<   For
SH| THE BEST OF BIZZNESSWARE - 465 MegaBytes <----------< $12.95!
SH| THE BEST OF SWIMSUITS - 407 MegaBytes <-------------< All Six
SH| THE BEST OF PC GAMES - 504 MegaBytes <--------------<   For
SH| THE BEST OF SIGHTS AND SOUNDS - 609 MegaBytes <-----< $49.00!!

Sounds like the "2 The Maxx" 6-disc set I bought recently (same six
discs... Shareware, WindowsWare, Sights & Sounds, BusinessWare,
SwimSuits, PC Games).  If so, I really like the set, and the neat
six-disc jewelbox mine came in, but one of the holders (the one just
inside the front cover) doesn't retain the disc, so it slides around
loose inside.  Is there any way I can get a replacement six-disc
jewelbox like that one?

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 5954
  To: ED SPOON                                 Date: 05/28/94  2:39p
Subj: For Sale!?!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ES>How about the for sale messages being moved to one of the for sale echoes? W
ES>How about it Moderator?
ES>Should we take an opinion poll?

ES> * Origin: Silver Spoon - Houma, LA USA (1:384/10)

Maybe YOU get plenty of sources for CD-ROMs, living in the USA, but
there's a lot of us outside the USA that get the most of our information
about new discs and sale pricing (outside the markets we LIVE in) from
this echo.

I do agree that it's sorta gotten out of hand, but instead of
eliminating for-sale items (and since this IS a worldwide echo) I think
a lot of the problem could be reduced by the following:

   1)  No one-off, private individuals selling their used single
       copy(ies) of some widely available disc.  No point sending such
       ads to thousands of boards around the globe!  Sell 'em at your
       local flea market, or by a notice on your local BBS's Main Board
       conference or whatever.

   2)  A given vendor may not run the same (or essentially similar) ad
       more than once every two weeks (or month, maybe), unless there
       has been a substantial reduction in price or something.

   3)  No dickering between buyer and seller about prices.  Do that by
       fax or mail or telephone or something.

   4)  No catalog requests.  Do those by mail or telephone or fax or
       whatever, too.

These restrictions would get rid of about two thirds of the (massive)
volume in this echo, and would eliminate the least interesting and most
redundant or useless messages.  I wouldn't want to see ALL the dealer
for-sale messages disappear, not at all!!!

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 5955
  To: JOHN BRACK                               Date: 05/28/94  3:22p
Subj: Rrr6.00 Cd-roms                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB>SR>      doom(cd)..........................6.00

JB>is this the shareware version i take it? is there a full commercial
JB>version out on cd yet?

I bought the full-commercial version (1.1) on CD-ROM back in March at
CeBIT in Germany.

Unfortunately, the version I got is buggy and the second episode (at
least) crashes rather predictably by the time I get to the third (?)
building or thereabouts.  I'm going to give them a few months and then
write to the company and ask them to send me a fixed, later version.

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 5956
  To: RALPH BOLOGNESE                          Date: 05/29/94  4:01p
Subj: Expansion Case                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RB>        Hello all!  I need some advice.  My bay space is maxed out so I
RB>cannot add any more devices.  I have 2 more internal drives that I want
RB>to add but do not have any more internal space.  I've heard of expansion
RB>cases but cannot find any in Computer Shopper.  Any suggestions would be
RB>helpful and appreciated.   Thanks in advance.............

The simplest and best solution, instead of adding expansion cases, is to
add a second machine and link it to the first with ARCnet boards and a
good, cheap peer-to-peer LAN like Little Big LAN.  Here, I get large
tower cases (six 5-1/4" halfhigh bays, all externally available, plus
two or three internal 3-1/2" bays for hard drives) for about $76, power
supply included.  Add about $35-40 for an ARCnet card (one for your
main machine too!), a cheap 386SX motherboard (for that matter,
don't you have an old 286-12 motherboard or something floating around
somewhere?) and a couple of 256K SIMMs (your old motherboard probably
has a bunch of DIP DRAMs in it already, that you've been wondering what
to do with), plus a heap-cheap display card (an old monochrome one
from your junk drawer would do fine) and a multi-I/O and floppy for
booting, and you're in.

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 5957
  To: ROBERT HUNTER                            Date: 05/29/94  4:05p
Subj: Flopticals.                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RH>summer.  I have been using Flopticals all year on SGI's and SUN's.  But
RH>they were nowhere near 21 megabites.  The ones I use are 640 megs (320
RH>each side).  And there has been proof of a 1.3 gig being released.  These

Those are NOT Flopticals, they're read-write magneto-optic drives.
Flopticals are floppy diskettes (they look for all the world like 3.5"
floppies) except that they have laser-etched guide tracks in them that
allow sufficiently precise head positioning that they can cram lots more
than 80 cylinders on them (more like 800-1000).

There's enough confusion regarding different types of optical disk
drives already, without people like you adding to the confusion.  :-)

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From: LINDSAY MCKEON                         Number: 5958
  To: GREG MCNAMARA                            Date: 05/27/94  2:38p
Subj: Payments to US                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GM> Have you bought much from the U.S.?

Not much. Odds and ends over the years.

 GM> Have you had any problems and what time frame on
 GM> delivery.Shipping costs?

I had a dealer debit my Master card for the price of a hard drive,
then disappear. :(

Being incredibly cheap, most of my stuff has been sent by surface
mail. Takes between 8 and 14 weeks, with 10-12 being most common.
Air mail usually takes 1-2 weeks. The prices I've seen quoted here
for air mail postage look reasonable; being only CDs, the software
doesn't weigh much. When you're shipping application packages with
huge user manuals it can really cost you a bundle!

Note: Software doesn't have wholesale sales tax levied when it gets
to Australia, but the same can't be said for hardware. Expect to pay
25% (usually) or 34% for "entertainment" type items.

For example, I'd expect a games console to be taxed at the higher
rate, but a CDROM drive at the lower (because it's classed as computer
equipment.)

Even if tax is payable, they may let you off if the amount is less
than $20 Aus. as it's not worth collecting.

LM

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From: LINDSAY MCKEON                         Number: 5959
  To: GREG MCNAMARA                            Date: 05/27/94  3:03p
Subj: Payments to US                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BTW, Shipping times above are one way only, of course.

If you want to order by phone, Saturday is the cheap rate all day
long and corresponds to Friday in the US. Their times are six
hours ahead of us assuming the west coast and no daylight saving.

LM

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From: STEPHEN RANSON                         Number: 5960
  To: EMIL JOSEPH                              Date: 05/28/94 10:40p
Subj: SIMTEL CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Emil,

On 16-May-94, at 18:20, Emil Joseph wrote to All
About: SIMTEL CDROM

 EJ> Which mail order dealer in Australia stocks the _latest_ Simtel
 EJ> CDROM, CICA Windows CDROM and other Walnut Creek titles?
 EJ>

We do chucky, we do,


Enjoy your CD-ROM.....  # Orders Only!-FreeCall 1-800-811190 #
Steve Ranson            # Payment: CASH, CHEQUE, CREDIT CARD #
Australian CD-ROM Club  # Voice 06-2915258    Fax [phone] #
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From: STEPHEN RANSON                         Number: 5961
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 05/28/94 10:58p
Subj: What Gives                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Scott,

 The message below is one that was written to me by Steve Mann
 it along with hudreds of others is appearing in the CD-ROm
 Echo as if it was sent by You.   Something is amiss somewhere,
 but I know not where.

 SR> 02 May 94, Stephen Ranson writes to Luke Arnold:
 SR>
 SR>  SR> Luke, we can do the SB16 Discover pack (latest version) for $559
 SR>  SR> give us a call if you are interested.
 SR>
 SR> I've just been speaking to Creative Pacific and... well... your price is
 SR> good.
 SR>
 SR> You asked for a copy of our dealer price in Excel format.  I would crash
 SR> it to
 SR> you but I see your BBS is a point.  I will put it on hold for you in a
 SR> couple
 SR> of days.  We have just had our new catalogue printed and are still to
 SR> finalise
 SR> dealer pricing on the 40 new titles.
 SR>
 SR> I'll try to call you voice when it is ready.
 SR>
 SR> Regards,
 SR> Steve
 SR>
 SR> *** GoldED 2.40
 SR>
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From: JIM GOW                                Number: 5962
  To: JEFFREY DUBINSKY                         Date: 05/22/94  7:29a
Subj: Pas16-Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JD>?
JD>I have a PAS16 with SCSI interface. I want to get a CD-ROM
JD>drive to complement my system. ANY sugjestions? What about
JD>buffer size?
JD>Thanks MUCHOS MEGOS

JD>Just on the other side of the Galaxy looking in.

JD>1 Jeffery <> out...

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JD> * Origin: Cyberdyne Systems - [phone] (1:101/170)
Hi Jeffrey
        Get a NEC CDR 55 , good price , double speed photto cd, multi
        session and takes a caddy.

Jim Gow
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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 5963
  To: ED SPOON                                 Date: 05/28/94  9:53p
Subj: For Sale!?!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ES>GAMING echo. Traffic in here could be cut in half (at least) if we
ES>eliminate the for sale stuff.
ES>
ES>How about it Moderator?
ES>
ES>Should we take an opinion poll?

Been there, done that - we want the ads to stay, but the jerks who
abuse the "10 line limit on occasional adverts" to have their stores
robbed <G>.



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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 5964
  To: MATT MURBACH                             Date: 05/28/94  9:54p
Subj: Pregnancy                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM>You have to keep in mind that the age of marriage has been increasing
MM>steadily, so I would suspect increasing numbers of married teenagers i
MM>the past.  Also, these statistics show rates of first birth, which is
MM>far different from pregnancy rates, because of abortion!
MM>
MM>So I would question those numbers.

I reckon its because they are all too busy playing with their cdroms!

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.ARC
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From: PETER JOHNS                            Number: 5965
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94  3:20p
Subj: hitachi cd rom.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi people,

I have a cd rom, but no controller card for it. So I goes to the manufacturer,
who wants some $250 dollars for the controller card and cable. I laugh at him.
I can get a new cd rom/controller and cable for a little bit more than that.

So I have this driver, that I cant use. If by any chance anyone has the
controller card, with a blown up drive, then maybe we can do a bit of business.
One is usesless without the other.

Please netmail me any suggests if you got any!

It is a hitachi- I know this is not very much info, but will provide more if
necessary!

cya
peter

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 5966
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/94  3:21p
Subj: $5 off all Titles. Must sell by July 1st.  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The 999 Planes of Hell BBS CD Titles in Stock
Payment :COD,CHEQUE,MONEY ORDER
Phone: [phone] after 6pm    Fax: [phone]
BBS Fido: 3:633/253             P.O.Box 239, Beaconsfield, 3807
BBS 14K4: 03-796-2180           Victoria, Australia

GAMES (Postage $3 Certified Mail)

Megarace                        $75 Super Arcade Games              $29
Dune                            $86 Video Cube Space Game           $33
5 Foot 10 Pack                  $68 Iron Helix *B                   $57
Myst                            $81 Who Shot Johnny Rock            $70
The 7th Guest *B                $49 Inca *B                         $38
Return to Zork *B               $40 Fantasy Empires                 $73
Dungeon Hack                    $68 Cyber Race                      $81
Critical Path                   $90 Dracula Unleashed               $82
Day of the Tentacle             $67 Gabriel Knight                  $82
Harrier SVGA                    $81 Iron Helix                      $110
Protostar War on the Frontier   $72 Spirit of Excalibur             $48
Cybergenic Ranger               $25 Wing Commander/Ultima 6         $40
Return to Zork /Box             $75 Rebel Assault /Box              $75
Night Owl Games                 $33 MVP's Game Jamboree             $24
Hugo's House of Horrors         $24

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From: ARTHUR BISHOP                          Number: 5967
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/24/94  8:27p
Subj: SEVENTH GUEST : PROBS                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am attempting to run T7G using a TRIDENT 8000 series video card, SOUNDBLASTER
I card, (address 220, IRQ7, DMA1), PANASONIC CDROM and either PC or MICROSOFT
mouse (FMOUSE driver)

I have installed T7GFIX3 patches but am unable to get past the opening vocal
invitation and the sphinx card, when the prog hangs up with the skeleton's hand
moving but not responding to the  mouse, (mouse driver installed OK)

Any help would be much appreciated

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From: EMIL JOSEPH                            Number: 5968
  To: STEPHEN RANSON                           Date: 05/29/94  6:22p
Subj: SIMTEL CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *** I read in your message of 28 May 94  18:40:26 on "SIMTEL CDROM":

 SR> On 16-May-94, at 18:20, Emil Joseph wrote to All
 SR> About: SIMTEL CDROM

 EJ> Which mail order dealer in Australia stocks the _latest_ Simtel
 EJ> CDROM, CICA Windows CDROM and other Walnut Creek titles?

 SR> We do chucky, we do,

Good to hear that, chucky. Care to mention titles and prices?

Emil






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From: ANDREW BARFOOT                         Number: 5969
  To: MALCOLM YOUNG                            Date: 05/28/94  8:58a
Subj: Aust Phone Disc                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes there are two phone disks. I do not know the real difference except that
there are two different passwords, a different way of setting the password
each version. Also, there is about 40 Meg diference in the amount of files on
the different cd'd.

Hope that helps.


Andrew L. Barfoot.


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From: CHRIS KELLY                            Number: 5970
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/25/94  3:00p
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ** >> >> You got Miami,Florida here.
 ** >>> You got Coos Bay,Oregon. Thats on the cost.
 SA> And you got Europe too! Gothenburg/Sweden 2:203/156, Ekdala BBS/
 MN> ...and in Brussels, Belgium (Europa)

 Ok!! from Madrid, Spain (Europa)

 A bang salute  >>> Javier

You got me too! here in good old Bundaberg Qld Australia.



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From: CHRIS KELLY                            Number: 5971
  To: CRAIG HUXLEY                             Date: 05/25/94  3:23p
Subj: Rebel Assualt Fix v1.4                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH>Hello Chris!
CH>
CH>Tuesday May 10 1994 14:33, Chris Kelly wrote to Craig Huxley:
CH>
CH> CK>
CH> ->> Hello Chris!
CH> ->>
CH> ->> Saturday April 30 1994 15:40, Chris Kelly wrote to Craig Huxley:
CH> CK>
CH> CK> IM NOT SURE, BUT I THINK YOU GOT THE WRONG CHRIS KELLY. THERE IS
CH> CK> CHRIS K. BUT HIS LAST NAME IS SPELLED KELLIE... I DONT EVER RECAL
CH> CK> WRITING THIS MESSAGE..
CH> CK>
CH> CK>
CH> CK> Chris Kelly
CH>
CH>Nope, GoldEd doesn't ever stuff up names......just some other lucky gu
CH>the same name Chris :-)  I hate to tell you this but Chris
CH>KELLY is a common name.
CH>
CH>BTW Capitals in a message is a form of shouting......you
CH>will also see how hard it is to read.  In Fido echo's
CH>typing in capitals is bad etiquette.
CH>
CH>To every other Chrisd KELLY reading this message, only the
CH>one who sent it please note.

I am a Chris Kelly, But as you can see I do not have to type in Upper Case
 just to be replied to.
so I will assume you are talking to some other Chris kelly. Thanks for the
Rebel Cheats and did you get the fix I posted to Brisbug BBS or if you
like I can Send it too you diorect or some other way.
cheers Chris.


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From: JOHN CHAN                              Number: 5972
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 05/29/94 10:30a
Subj: Phone Disk !BUG!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SM> reverse searches to fail. We have in stock the May
 SM> issue which has been fixed.  We are now
 SM> distributing this product if you are interested.

 SM> Our new price on these is $55.

 SM> Call for lowest dealer prices.

Hi Steve,


Thanks for the reply,
Could you please fax me the dealer price on 07-273-8873 ?
Or NETMAIL me at:
MadHouse Inc
3:640/820

Seeya
John

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From: JOHN CHAN                              Number: 5973
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94 10:43a
Subj: AUST PHONE DISK 94' $45!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To All,


Attention:        To All AUSTRALIAN BBS USER !!!



        l have a number of April 1994 Phone Disk (for Windows) 4 sale !

Price $45 including postage anywhere to Australia !

If you would like to buy one, print out and fill in the form below !!




                         Cut Here
________________________________________________________________________



                Phone Disk April 1994 !!!
                  (Windows Version)


Name:  ______________________

Address:  ________________________________    Suburb: _______________

Postcode: ___________________        State: ______________________

Phone Number: ________________

No. of Phone disk wanted: ______

Amount enclosed: $ ________


Price: $ 45 each (for upto 4 discs)
       $ 40 each (for order of 5 or more discs!)



Please send Money Order/Cheque and form to:
John Chan
PO Box 367
Sunnybank
Qld 4109


Please make Money Order/Cheque payable to John Chan.

Note:   Only available to Australian BBS Users only !!
        also because cheques takes time to clear, it will be faster if
        you send a Money Order !!!


Thank You

________________________________________________________________________
                        Cut Here !


If you have any Q's or would like to buy a number of these Phone Disks,Please
call me at [phone] After 7pm till 9pm EST
or
NETMAIL me at:
MadHouse Inc
3:640/820


Seeya
John
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From: STEVE CHAPMAN                          Number: 5974
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/29/94 12:30p
Subj: Info On Cd Please                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS> SC:>                     THE  MUSIC  MONSTER

MS> SC:>Now shipping! Check with your dealer or call! The "Music Monster
MS> SC:>is a HUGE  collection of  MIDI and MOD  music files!   In fact b
MS> SC:>far the  LARGEST collection  you  will find  anywhere.   This ne
MS> SC:>collection has 2,300+ MIDI files and over  2,500 MOD music files
MS> SC:>All types of music from classical to country to rock to jazz.

MS> We have them in stock at $23.20.
Hi there.
You did not include the postal air mail price to Australia.
Some sort of Form to fill in for VISA Payment.
Cheers Steve Chapman


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From: JAMES HO                               Number: 5975
  To: ERNEST ENNS                              Date: 05/30/94  8:18a
Subj: Re: REBEL ASSAULT Fix                   Refer: NONE
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 -=≡> Yves Desjardins said this to James Ho on 20 May 94  09:16:10 @<≡=-

 YD> Hello James!

 YD> 15 May 94 05:06, James Ho wrote to Ernest Enns:

 JH> @TID: xMail 1.00 noreg

 -=≡>> Ernest Enns was talking to All on 08 May 94  20:42:00 <≡=-

 EE>> Hi, I've seen mention of the Rebel Assault bug fix for the sensitive
 EE>> joystick. I've tried freq'ing it from 1:280/31 which said the file
 EE>> REBEL14.ZIP was available but got a "file not found" message. Does
 EE>> anyone else have this file available for FREQ? If so could you post
 EE>> your node number and file name?
 EE>> Thanks in advance!

 JH>    Try to look for REB14.ZIP.


 YD> There is a newer version out.  REB17.ZIP (449958 bytes) is the latest.
 YD> It is available on LucasArt BBS or on the BBS # of the tagline.

    Ernest, heard it?  Thanx Yves Desjardins for pointing out.

    james Ho

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From: JAMES HO                               Number: 5976
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  9:13a
Subj: Software Toolworks and Grolier?         Refer: NONE
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    I got confused about two CDs they are,
    Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia and Gorlier.  What's
the difference?

    james ho

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From: GARY FLETCHER                          Number: 5977
  To: ROGER DUPLER                             Date: 05/28/94  9:38a
Subj: RE: ZORK HINT NEEDED  1/3               Refer: NONE
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 Hi Roger Dupler

how about this.....

                                Return To Zork
                          Almost-Full-Point Solution


NOTE :  At certain points in the solve I will tell you to use an item, and not
tell you to pick it up again, or just mention the existence of an item in a
certain room.  Make sure you pick EVERYTHING up (with the exception of the
things I tell you NOT to pick up:)).  Anything that you leave behind, you
should go back and get.


    Hey.  Well you're playing Return to Zork, and are stucker than stuck, and
need some help.  Look no further, here's the solution to the game!  I didn't
get all the points (only 218/225) but the end is there either way, and here's
how to get to it.  I also believe there are a few parts of the game that are
just unsolveable (ie the oven, and anything relating to hellhounds).

    You start off in a mountain pass.  A quick thing to do is pick up the rock
from the lower left hand part of the screen and throw it at the vulture.  Then
you might be tempted to get the bonding plant from down below.  Don't.  My
recommendation is to wait till later in the game to get the plant.  So
instead, just mosey down the path to the lighthouse.  Enter the lighthouse and
babble with the lighthouse keeper.  He really doesn't have very much
interesting to say at this point, so what you say doesn't matter very much.
Next go outside the lighthouse again.  Now if you head down the path, you'll
be at the road to the south, unsolveable, so instead, go around the back of
the lighthouse.  From here, cut the vines from the fence, and bind the wood
panels together with the vines.  Now you have a raft, use it to go one space
down the river, and get off at the bridge.
    You are now in the town of West Shanbar, facing the town-proper.  First
easy thing to do is go to the building on the far right, it's a destroyed
hardware store.  Go in, and get the box and the crank.  You don't need the
mice, so leave them there.  Next stop should be the close house on the right,
the school house.  To get in, bang the bell with the crank or the dagger.  The
school teacher will first quiz you with the games first copy-protection, and
then give you a notebook in which you can record all of your travels in the
game.  Next stop is the Town Hall, close building on the left, go in, talk to
the mayor, and whatever.  Then read ALL the files in the cabinets.  It's a lot
of reading, and you'll be referring back to it later on (and a lot of this
solve won't make any sense without reading it).  Then after you leave Town
Hall, face center of town, and turn around from there, go off to the left of
the screen, towards the mill.  Go into the mill, and you'll have your first
encounter with Boos.  First of MANY.  Go out the other door into the backyard
of his house, and grab the key from the floor, and pull the chock out of the
water wheel (I don't actually know what this accomplishes, but it gives you
two points, so what the heck:)).  Go back through the house, and back to town,
where you can now go to the building on the far left.  Use the key to unlock
the door.  Go in, grab the battery off the shelves, and the money and tickets
out of the cash register.  Then go back to facing the bridge, and on the far
right side of the screen, your mouse arrow will point down, go this way.  Here
you will meet the waif.  Give him the tickets, and he will give you a gift, it
looks like a piece of lint, but it's very important later in the game.  From
here, go back the old mill, and do the following.  When Boos pours you a
drink, pour the drink out into the plant, then make a toast with him (glasses
clinking icon) then drink the empty glass.  Repeat this four times, and he
will pass out, opening up the Great Underground Empire.  But wait, you're not
done yet.  Leave the mill, and re-enter it, and repeat the entire
pour/toast/drink process again, but only three times this time, after he says
"Damn Few.", click on the "Don't Drink & Drive" icon, and he will give you his
car keys.  OK, don't get too excited here, you can't drive his car, but you
can now enter the GUE.  Before you leave this room, also be sure to grab the
flask off of the ground by his feet.
    Go down the passage you just opened, and you will be at a door, open the
door with the car keys, and you are now in a new mill!  Exit this mill, and
you are now within the GUE.  Follow the path straight, into East Shanbar.
First building to enter is the second one on the left.  Go into Moodock's
Armoury, and have a chat with him, then play a game of Survivor (he'll explain
the rules to you).  It's also impossible for you to lose in this incarnation
of Survivor (you will play a much harder version later on), so just futz
around, and once you win he will give you a sword, and a coin (not a Zorkmid
though).  Next, out of the building, turn around from the center of town, and
face the bridge.  Cross the bridge, and go to the left.  At the Fool's
Memorial, pick up the book off of the floor.  From here, proceed down the left
path again, and follow it into Snoot's Farm.  Enter through the window, as the
door is locked.  Enter the door second from the left, and in that room will be
the lovely Rebecca Snoot, brushing her teeth.  She'll knock you out for
breaking and entering, however.  When you get up, talk to her and she'll quiz
you with the second and final copy-protection of the game.  Once you're out of
that predicament, from the main room, go into the door on the right side of
the room, zoom in on the cabinet, and grab the mirror from the desk.  Then
again, from the main room, go through the center archway, and in the kitchen
take the soap off the sink, the thermozz from the table, and open the
refridgerator and take the meat out.  (The meat will rot, don't worry about
it, you want it to rot.)  From there, put the soap in the sink, and run the
water on it, you will now have soapy water, wash the waif's gift in the soap,
and lo and behold, you have a piece of a mysterious disk.  Neat.  In the
kitchen is also an oven that blows up if you turn it on (Why it does this is
beyond me) and a box of cereal that you can't pick up.  Again, from the main
room again, go into the door on the far left.  In there is Alexis the
poodle/hellhound.  Click on her and she will growl at you.  Nothing else is
necessary from the dog, but her growling is necessary for you to win the game.
After you leave the building, on random occasions, Rebecca will come and meet
you out on the road.  When you do see her, take her picture.
    Next stop is the carrot silo.  From the front of Rebecca's house, go up
and to the right, and you will be at the carrot silo.  Take the crank, and put
it on the silo door, and crank it clockwise.  The silo will explode and you
should take some of the carrots.  From here, again go up and to the right, and
you will be at the Pugney farm.  Go to the red house first, and DON'T take the
box off the ground.  Go to the door, and open the window and talk to Pugney.
Be Apologetic, and he will let you take the box off the front lawn.  Once you
finish with him, grab the box, and now go to the blue barn behind the red
house.  Go inside with the cow, and take a clump of hay from the ground (left
bottom corner) pick it up, drop it again, and then take the matches and light
the hay on fire.  Now warm your hands by the fire, and milk the cow with the
thermozz.  Then feed the cow the carrots.  Next stop, back to Rebecca's house,
and go into her kitchen (or bathroom) and fill the flask (not the thermozz)
with water.  Now go back to East Shanbar and go to the last building on the
left.  Pull lever 1 and the top of the incinerator will open.  Throw the bra
box into the incinerator, and pull lever 1 again.   Then pull lever 2, and
zoom in on the drawer.  Pour the water from the flask onto the hot wire, and
pick the wire up.
    Now take that wire, and enter the first building on the left (from the
center of town) and use the wire to pick the lock.  Shake the cereal box.
Shake it again.  Take the whistle.  Next pick up the rats, and IMMEDIATELY put
them into the box you picked up earlier.  (The meat you picked up, by now,
should have rotted away)  Make SURE you put the rats into the box, or you
will die a quick death.  Next up is go from the center of town, straight out,
to the fork in the road, pick the left one first.  Pick the tiles up off the
floor, and then turn around, and pick the frame up off the floor.  Drop the
tiles into the frame, and you have a lovely word puzzle.  The solution to the
puzzle is "Water unseen at falls mix with bat dropping yields potion for", and
once you get that far, the last block will fall into place, "invisibility".
Now, in the same place, twirl around once more, and pick up the disk piece and
the two pieces of illuminyte off the floor.  From here, go back to the center
of town, and enter the first building on the right (by this point most people
will be telling you that you stink).  Buy a room from Molly Kettle, and go up
to your room in the elevator.  Enter the room, and place the illuminyte rocks
onto the nightstand.  Then zoom in on the monitor, and turn the radio on.
Then turn the lights off.  You will have a dream about Morpheus, the head
bad-guy of the game.  Next, get up, turn the lights back on, and take your
illuminyte back (make sure to turn the lights on first).  Exit this building
now.
    Now for the hard parts.  There are now two mazes to deal with.  One is
rather vicious, and one is just annoying because of what you have to do.  The
first woods we will discuss is the Whispering Woods, the right fork in the
road from the path straight out of town.  First things first, however.  Go
back to the silo, grab more carrots.  Go back to the cow, pour your thermozz
milk into the flask, and then milk the cow again (it must be done the same way
as earlier).  Now go to the Whispering Woods.  Once you enter, your vision
will start deteriorating.  Once the comment reads "Can you see the Galactic
Milky-Way?", drink ALL the milk you have, it should say that your vision is


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From: GARY FLETCHER                          Number: 5978
  To: ROGER DUPLER                             Date: 05/28/94  9:38a
Subj: RE: ZORK HINT NEEDED  1/3               Refer: NONE
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From: GARY FLETCHER                          Number: 5979
  To: ROGER DUPLER                             Date: 05/28/94  9:38a
Subj: RE: ZORK HINT NEEDED  2/3               Refer: NONE
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now good enough to break any spell.  If it says this, and gives you five
points, your done.  If not, repeat the same process over again (milking cow,
etc), and the second time it will give you the points (I had to do it twice).
Once this is accomplished, here is a map of the woods.

TeTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
T   T   T T   T T     e=enter
T TTTTT T T TTT T     T=Tree or rock (wall essentially)
T       T T     T     x=exit
T TTT TTT T TTT T
T   T     T T   T
T TTT T TTT TTT T
T T   T   T T T T     Whispering Woods
T TTT T T T T T T     NOTE : Due to an annoying way that this game's
T T   T T   T   T            creators made the maps, I have to show one
T TTT TTT T T T T            tree as two.   So it is actually only six
T   T T   T T T T            paces from the entrance straight south, not
TTTTTTTTTTTTTxTTT            12 as it may seem.


    Ok, so my map-drawing facilities aren't first class.  But you get the
picture.  Once you get out of the maze, you may have noticed a whispering in
the woods (wow what a coincidence) it says "two rings begin, three rings
return" (or maybe it's vice-versa, anyway, that irrelevant).  You will now be
standing at a dock with a bell.  Ring it twice (or is it three? Again,
irrelevant, just ring it again if the ferryman doesn't come on two).  Now the
ferryman will arrive with his hand extended.  Show him the coin Moodock gave
you, and he will ferry you across the river.  You are now on Canuk's Island.
Go to his house.  At the door, you will see a magnet on top of the door.
We'll be getting that later:)  Once inside, you will see a duck, a ship in a
bottle, a scroll, and blueprints.  Take the scroll and read it to the duck.
Whammo, Canuk will appear.  He will tell you some babble about the history of
Zork and whatnot.  Show him the disk pieces.  He will now transport you into
the ship in a bottle.  Go into the bottle, and wander around.  The time limit,
I don't think is enforced (if it's really 20 minutes, it's MUCH more than you
need).  Get onto the ship, and go up the stairs, and you will see a number,
write it down.  Now go back downstairs, and down the stairs again.  Pick up
the rag off the cabinet, and zoom in on the safe.  Enter the number you just
wrote down into the safe, and open it.  Now take the disk piece and the rusty
metal thing out of it.  Once you've done this, take your mirror, and put it in
your hand (ie your mouse cursor shows you holding it).  Exit the boat.  Canuk,
who you may have noticed by now, is controlled by Morpheus, will try to turn
you into a duck.  But since you are holding the mirror, it will reflect back
at him.  Now take the scroll, and feed it to the duck, he will lay an egg.
Take the egg, and exit the house.  Now cut the egg open with your knife.  And
you will have the scroll (I don't think this affects the gameplay, but it's
nice to have:)).
    Next thing off, get back onto the boat (show the ferryman the coin again,
and of course ring the bell a few times to get him there) and find your way
back out of the forest.  Now another quick thing to do is to go into town and
show the blacksmith (second building on the right) your rusty old sword.  Get
him to fix the sword, and pay any fee he requests.  He may tell you to come
back in a little while, just wander around until it is fixed.
    Next thing is to go into the other forest, the left fork from the fork in
road from the path out of town.  Once in, the first thing you should do is the
following, go NORTH, EAST, EAST, SOUTH, and you will be at a tree.  Hit the
tree with your sword, and it'll break the sword (and also drop some coins on
the ground) take the coins.  Now exit the forest again, via NORTH WEST WEST
SOUTH, and go to the blacksmith.  Complain to him that your sword is broken.
He will mumble something, and give you a receipt for a new sword.  Now go to
the center of town again, and turn around, to face the bridge, go to the left,
and you will be at Ben's boathouse.  Talk to Ben.  Ask him about the knot he's
holding in his hand.  Show him the picture of Rebecca if you've taken it buy
now, and he will give you a sealed letter (if you don't have the picture yet,
no rush, don't worry) and finally, give him the receipt from the blacksmith,
and he will give you the True Dwarven Sword of Zork.  How nice.  Now back to
the forest (on the fork left).  This a pretty vicious forest and has lots of
nasty things in it, and is rather big, as well, here again is another attempt
at mapping it:)

TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
@     T           T$T
TTTTT TTT TTT TTT T T       +=Entrance
T T T     T   T T   T       \=Metallic Tree
T TTT TTT T T T TTT T       -=Bowman
T   T T T   T T   T T       %=Grue/Fairy Area
T T TTT TTTTTTT * T T       &=Tree Spirit
T T               T T       >=Leaf Trap
T TTT * TTT TTT TTT T       $=Boar Statue
T   T     T T T  >  T       @=Spider Web/Exit
T   T TTTTT&TTTTTTT T       *=The two annoying places that force me to map
T     T     T   T   T         this way(you won't notice anything special
TTTTT TTT TTT T TTTTT         unless your used to mapping mazes of this type)
T   T  %  T   T     T
T TTT TTT TTT TTT TTT
T     T   T     T T T
T TTT TTT T T   T T T
T T   T  -  T       T
T TTT TTT T T TTT T T
T   T T   T T   T T T
TTTTTTTTTTTTT+TTT\TTT

    The metallic tree has already been explained.  To get past the bowman, you
must make sure to have some milk in your containers.  Just give him the milk
and he will go away, and leave his bow and arrows.  Take them.  Next go to the
Grue/Fairy area.  It will say "It's dark, just like Grues like it."  Light a
match (the same way you would use your inventory anywhere else), and the fairy
you just rescued will talk to you, be real friendly with her, and she'll give
you fairy dust (you might have to talk to her once or twice to get the dust
from her).  Next stop, the tree spirit.  Get her to babble her annoying songs.
She really isn't very useful at all.  So just get out of there when you get
bored.  Now the leaf trap.  When you see the leaves, drop something in it (not
your sword) the trap will be sprung.  Now just use your sword to cut your
leaves, and whatever you threw in will fall to the ground, just pick it up.
Now go to the boar memorial.  Strike the memorial thrice (three times) with
your sword, and you will get another disk piece.  You can go to the spider,
but you can't get past it yet anyway, so why bother, get out of this maze.
    Next stop, get your bootie back to Canuk's House (go through the
whispering woods again).  Now at his door, look at the magnet.  Neat, eh?  Pry
it off with you sword.  Now stand there, holding the magnet.  Use magnet with
whistle.  Blow away on the whistle, and a vulture will come swooping down.  Uh
oh!  Not at all, this vulture will carry you to anywhere that you need to go
in the game!  So just go to Pugney's Farm first, go to the barn again, (now
might not be a bad time to fill up on milk), and go to the left behind the
barn.  You will be at the Vulture Pits. Pour the fairy dust onto the rotting
meat, and throw it.  The vultures will come out and eat the meat and fall
asleep.  Go into the pits and take the talon.  Next, run over to the screen
one screen in front of Rebecca's house (it has signs to the cliffs and
Rebecca's house).  Go to the left, and follow that path to the Cliffs of
Depression.  Take the rope from the railing.  Now go back into town, and go
back to Ben the boatman.  Pay him for the boat.  Zoom in on the boat, and take
the rats out of the box and put them into the motor.  Now you will be at the
Witch's house.  Go on inside, she won't bite.  Ok, be careful what expressions
you show to the witch, just be friendly.  Then show her the milk that you have
and she will let you take the bat cage, do so.  Then show her the sealed
letter from Ben, and she will give you staff, take it.  Then she's outta
there.  Now you can either go through the swamp, or use the vulture to get
out.  I recommend going through the swamp, you get 5 points for it.  To do so,
you must walk one step out of the witch's house.  Then take her staff, and
place it on the ground in front of you, if it falls in, it is not safe to walk
there, if it stands on it, you can proceed.  I can't map that, as the swamp is
different for each person, and possibly each time.  Just get out, its usually
not more than 7 or 8 steps.  Once out of the swamp, first stop is going to be
west shanbar, that's on the above ground level of the map.  Go first to the
mayor, and show him the Zorkian book (you got it from the Fool's Memorial),
he will translate a joke for you.  Now go to Ms. Peepers (the schoolhouse) and
show her the book, she will tell you that Rebecca can translate it.  Next stop
is back down below.  Wander around until Rebecca shows up, and play her the
quote from Ms. Peepers about her being able to translate it, then show her the
book.  Next off, go back to Witch Ita, and show her the book (if she's not
there, just wander around until she shows up again), and she will translate
one more joke.  Then go to the blacksmith, and pay his fee, and he will
translate the last joke.  Now go back to the Valley of the Vultures (Mountain
Pass, where you start the game) (remember just click anywhere on the map


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From: GARY FLETCHER                          Number: 5980
  To: ROGER DUPLER                             Date: 05/28/94  9:38a
Subj: RE: ZORK HINT NEEDED  2/3               Refer: NONE
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now, and the vulture will bring you there).  Click on the sign, and use the
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From: GARY FLETCHER                          Number: 5981
  To: ROGER DUPLER                             Date: 05/28/94  9:38a
Subj: RE: ZORK HINT NEEDED  3/3               Refer: NONE
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knife to dig up the bonding plant.  Now go back to the Cliffs of Depression.
Tie the rope to the tree, and climb down the side of the cliff and go into the
Comedy Club.  Now playback the four jokes that the people just told you to
the audience.  When you are done, Cliff will give you a disk piece.  Now go to
the lighthouse.  Give the keeper a piece of illuminyte, and show him your disk
pieces, he will give you the final piece.  Go up to the top of the lighthouse
and tie the rope onto the railing using the cow-knot that Ben taught you.
Then tie the vulture talon onto the rope, and throw the rope across the river.
The talon will boomerang back and tie itself around the railing, and you will
have a nice rope bridge.  Cross the bridge and follow the path to the Temple
Bel Naire.  Take the shield from the statue, and go into the Temple.  Show the
Holy Woman your sword and she will bless it for you.  Now exit the Temple, and
turn around once.  There will be a gateway in the right side of the screen,
follow that path to the dwarf camp.  Talk to the Dwarven dudes, and they will
give you a hardhat.  Take it.  Then go up to the top left part of the screen
and go to the mining cart.  Now this is very annoying.  The path you must
follow to escape the mining maze is the following, where L is Left, R is
Right, and S is Straight.  Make sure to only click once at each intersection,
as the dumb game buffers your mouse clicks and it will screw you up
occasionally.  The path is L R S R L R S R L L R S.  (By the way that puzzle
is easy, just write down each word the dwarves say to each other that is Left,
Right or Straight).  Once out, you will be at the temple of the muses.  From
left to right, but the following items on each of the statues :
1) Staff
2) Talon
3) Thermozz
Center) Nothing
4) Helmet AND Box
5) Shield
6) Tele-Orb

Then place the disk pieces on the bowl in front, and hit a button (green I
think I hit, I don't think it matters) watch the ensuing stupidity, and they
will reassemble your disk into a whole again.  The center statue is different,
he is not a muse, but the "Catcher" (detailed in the Mayor's filing cabinets).
Make sure to pick up all the items once you are done.  Now take the vulture
down to the Hero's Memorial.  Take the right fork in the road, and go into the
Troll Cave.  Put your helmet on and all will be lit up.  At the first troll,
swing left, the next, swing up, the third, swing down.  Then at the troll
king, click on "Threatening" until he wimps out and gives you the necklace.
Now go back to the green forest, and find your way to the spider.  Show the
spider the necklace, and he will wimp out.  Then go up Flood Control Damn #3
(!), and fill up your flask from the "backside of the water".  Now go to the
whispering woods, and go one space in, and release the bats.  Pick up the bat
guano, and drop it into the flask with the clear water (from FCD#3).  You now
have an invisibility potion.  Now off to the Cliffs of Depression.  From
there, turn around and go to the left.  Throw the Flying Disk of Frobozz, and
it will dispel the illusion.
    Go forward into the castle, and shoot the bow and arrow at the gates, and
the hand will open the door for you.  Once in, an orc will start attacking
you.  Drink the invisibility potion, and then play back the recording of
Alexis the hellhound barking, the orc will wimp out and run away.  Now, at the
Citadel Bridge, throw *EVERYTHING* that you have at the bridge, until you have
NOTHING left in your inventory.  The bridge will come back up.  SAVE THE GAME
NOW:)  Go over the bridge for your final confrontation with Morpheus.  A game
of Survivor.  Only now you play Trembyle instead of Canuk, which makes the
game VERY hard.  Here is the pattern to win, the number represents what order
you should make the moves in.  If he blocks the move, pass your turn, and he
will move to another space, do NOT deviate from the course I give here, or you
will have to forfeit and will have to start over again.

0   5   12  9    0=Where you start
11  8   1   4    14=Where you will end
6   3   10  13   C=Where Canuk/Morpheus will die
C   14   7  2

Again, if he blocks your move, do NOT go anywhere else, just pass your turn,
he MUST move, he is not allowed to pass.  Once you complete this, you've
won the game!  Congratulations.

    The ending of the game is kinda bad, but the game itself is pretty good, I
enjoyed it a lot.  Some of the puzzles (the bra box) were ridiculous, and some
of the scenes (the Mining Maze, COME ON! Infocom games are NOT coordination
games) really annoyed me, but all in all it was a pretty good game.  I don't
know where to find the remaining 7 points, but obviously it isn't very
important.  Till next time, seeya!

-bYtE
-October 11th, 1993

Thanks go out to Ozone and wc who played the game concurrently with me on IRC.
Greets go to Magyar and Patch who can now read this and stop bugging me!:)


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From: GARY FLETCHER                          Number: 5982
  To: CHRISTIAN BARTSCH                        Date: 05/28/94  9:41a
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here goes Chris...

                                Return To Zork
                          Almost-Full-Point Solution


NOTE :  At certain points in the solve I will tell you to use an item, and not
tell you to pick it up again, or just mention the existence of an item in a
certain room.  Make sure you pick EVERYTHING up (with the exception of the
things I tell you NOT to pick up:)).  Anything that you leave behind, you
should go back and get.


    Hey.  Well you're playing Return to Zork, and are stucker than stuck, and
need some help.  Look no further, here's the solution to the game!  I didn't
get all the points (only 218/225) but the end is there either way, and here's
how to get to it.  I also believe there are a few parts of the game that are
just unsolveable (ie the oven, and anything relating to hellhounds).

    You start off in a mountain pass.  A quick thing to do is pick up the rock
from the lower left hand part of the screen and throw it at the vulture.  Then
you might be tempted to get the bonding plant from down below.  Don't.  My
recommendation is to wait till later in the game to get the plant.  So
instead, just mosey down the path to the lighthouse.  Enter the lighthouse and
babble with the lighthouse keeper.  He really doesn't have very much
interesting to say at this point, so what you say doesn't matter very much.
Next go outside the lighthouse again.  Now if you head down the path, you'll
be at the road to the south, unsolveable, so instead, go around the back of
the lighthouse.  From here, cut the vines from the fence, and bind the wood
panels together with the vines.  Now you have a raft, use it to go one space
down the river, and get off at the bridge.
    You are now in the town of West Shanbar, facing the town-proper.  First
easy thing to do is go to the building on the far right, it's a destroyed
hardware store.  Go in, and get the box and the crank.  You don't need the
mice, so leave them there.  Next stop should be the close house on the right,
the school house.  To get in, bang the bell with the crank or the dagger.  The
school teacher will first quiz you with the games first copy-protection, and
then give you a notebook in which you can record all of your travels in the
game.  Next stop is the Town Hall, close building on the left, go in, talk to
the mayor, and whatever.  Then read ALL the files in the cabinets.  It's a lot
of reading, and you'll be referring back to it later on (and a lot of this
solve won't make any sense without reading it).  Then after you leave Town
Hall, face center of town, and turn around from there, go off to the left of
the screen, towards the mill.  Go into the mill, and you'll have your first
encounter with Boos.  First of MANY.  Go out the other door into the backyard
of his house, and grab the key from the floor, and pull the chock out of the
water wheel (I don't actually know what this accomplishes, but it gives you
two points, so what the heck:)).  Go back through the house, and back to town,
where you can now go to the building on the far left.  Use the key to unlock
the door.  Go in, grab the battery off the shelves, and the money and tickets
out of the cash register.  Then go back to facing the bridge, and on the far
right side of the screen, your mouse arrow will point down, go this way.  Here
you will meet the waif.  Give him the tickets, and he will give you a gift, it
looks like a piece of lint, but it's very important later in the game.  From
here, go back the old mill, and do the following.  When Boos pours you a
drink, pour the drink out into the plant, then make a toast with him (glasses
clinking icon) then drink the empty glass.  Repeat this four times, and he
will pass out, opening up the Great Underground Empire.  But wait, you're not
done yet.  Leave the mill, and re-enter it, and repeat the entire
pour/toast/drink process again, but only three times this time, after he says
"Damn Few.", click on the "Don't Drink & Drive" icon, and he will give you his
car keys.  OK, don't get too excited here, you can't drive his car, but you
can now enter the GUE.  Before you leave this room, also be sure to grab the
flask off of the ground by his feet.
    Go down the passage you just opened, and you will be at a door, open the
door with the car keys, and you are now in a new mill!  Exit this mill, and
you are now within the GUE.  Follow the path straight, into East Shanbar.
First building to enter is the second one on the left.  Go into Moodock's
Armoury, and have a chat with him, then play a game of Survivor (he'll explain
the rules to you).  It's also impossible for you to lose in this incarnation
of Survivor (you will play a much harder version later on), so just futz
around, and once you win he will give you a sword, and a coin (not a Zorkmid
though).  Next, out of the building, turn around from the center of town, and
face the bridge.  Cross the bridge, and go to the left.  At the Fool's
Memorial, pick up the book off of the floor.  From here, proceed down the left
path again, and follow it into Snoot's Farm.  Enter through the window, as the
door is locked.  Enter the door second from the left, and in that room will be
the lovely Rebecca Snoot, brushing her teeth.  She'll knock you out for
breaking and entering, however.  When you get up, talk to her and she'll quiz
you with the second and final copy-protection of the game.  Once you're out of
that predicament, from the main room, go into the door on the right side of
the room, zoom in on the cabinet, and grab the mirror from the desk.  Then
again, from the main room, go through the center archway, and in the kitchen
take the soap off the sink, the thermozz from the table, and open the
refridgerator and take the meat out.  (The meat will rot, don't worry about
it, you want it to rot.)  From there, put the soap in the sink, and run the
water on it, you will now have soapy water, wash the waif's gift in the soap,
and lo and behold, you have a piece of a mysterious disk.  Neat.  In the
kitchen is also an oven that blows up if you turn it on (Why it does this is
beyond me) and a box of cereal that you can't pick up.  Again, from the main
room again, go into the door on the far left.  In there is Alexis the
poodle/hellhound.  Click on her and she will growl at you.  Nothing else is
necessary from the dog, but her growling is necessary for you to win the game.
After you leave the building, on random occasions, Rebecca will come and meet
you out on the road.  When you do see her, take her picture.
    Next stop is the carrot silo.  From the front of Rebecca's house, go up
and to the right, and you will be at the carrot silo.  Take the crank, and put
it on the silo door, and crank it clockwise.  The silo will explode and you
should take some of the carrots.  From here, again go up and to the right, and
you will be at the Pugney farm.  Go to the red house first, and DON'T take the
box off the ground.  Go to the door, and open the window and talk to Pugney.
Be Apologetic, and he will let you take the box off the front lawn.  Once you
finish with him, grab the box, and now go to the blue barn behind the red
house.  Go inside with the cow, and take a clump of hay from the ground (left
bottom corner) pick it up, drop it again, and then take the matches and light
the hay on fire.  Now warm your hands by the fire, and milk the cow with the
thermozz.  Then feed the cow the carrots.  Next stop, back to Rebecca's house,
and go into her kitchen (or bathroom) and fill the flask (not the thermozz)
with water.  Now go back to East Shanbar and go to the last building on the
left.  Pull lever 1 and the top of the incinerator will open.  Throw the bra
box into the incinerator, and pull lever 1 again.   Then pull lever 2, and
zoom in on the drawer.  Pour the water from the flask onto the hot wire, and
pick the wire up.
    Now take that wire, and enter the first building on the left (from the
center of town) and use the wire to pick the lock.  Shake the cereal box.
Shake it again.  Take the whistle.  Next pick up the rats, and IMMEDIATELY put
them into the box you picked up earlier.  (The meat you picked up, by now,
should have rotted away)  Make SURE you put the rats into the box, or you
will die a quick death.  Next up is go from the center of town, straight out,
to the fork in the road, pick the left one first.  Pick the tiles up off the
floor, and then turn around, and pick the frame up off the floor.  Drop the
tiles into the frame, and you have a lovely word puzzle.  The solution to the
puzzle is "Water unseen at falls mix with bat dropping yields potion for", and
once you get that far, the last block will fall into place, "invisibility".
Now, in the same place, twirl around once more, and pick up the disk piece and
the two pieces of illuminyte off the floor.  From here, go back to the center
of town, and enter the first building on the right (by this point most people
will be telling you that you stink).  Buy a room from Molly Kettle, and go up
to your room in the elevator.  Enter the room, and place the illuminyte rocks
onto the nightstand.  Then zoom in on the monitor, and turn the radio on.
Then turn the lights off.  You will have a dream about Morpheus, the head
bad-guy of the game.  Next, get up, turn the lights back on, and take your
illuminyte back (make sure to turn the lights on first).  Exit this building
now.
    Now for the hard parts.  There are now two mazes to deal with.  One is
rather vicious, and one is just annoying because of what you have to do.  The
first woods we will discuss is the Whispering Woods, the right fork in the
road from the path straight out of town.  First things first, however.  Go
back to the silo, grab more carrots.  Go back to the cow, pour your thermozz
milk into the flask, and then milk the cow again (it must be done the same way
as earlier).  Now go to the Whispering Woods.  Once you enter, your vision
will start deteriorating.  Once the comment reads "Can you see the Galactic
Milky-Way?", drink ALL the milk you have, it should say that your vision is
now good enough to break any spell.  If it says this, and gives you five
points, your done.  If not, repeat the same process over again (milking cow,


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etc), and the second time it will give you the points (I had to do it twice).
Once this is accomplished, here is a map of the woods.

TeTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
T   T   T T   T T     e=enter
T TTTTT T T TTT T     T=Tree or rock (wall essentially)
T       T T     T     x=exit
T TTT TTT T TTT T
T   T     T T   T
T TTT T TTT TTT T
T T   T   T T T T     Whispering Woods
T TTT T T T T T T     NOTE : Due to an annoying way that this game's
T T   T T   T   T            creators made the maps, I have to show one
T TTT TTT T T T T            tree as two.   So it is actually only six
T   T T   T T T T            paces from the entrance straight south, not
TTTTTTTTTTTTTxTTT            12 as it may seem.


    Ok, so my map-drawing facilities aren't first class.  But you get the
picture.  Once you get out of the maze, you may have noticed a whispering in
the woods (wow what a coincidence) it says "two rings begin, three rings
return" (or maybe it's vice-versa, anyway, that irrelevant).  You will now be
standing at a dock with a bell.  Ring it twice (or is it three? Again,
irrelevant, just ring it again if the ferryman doesn't come on two).  Now the
ferryman will arrive with his hand extended.  Show him the coin Moodock gave
you, and he will ferry you across the river.  You are now on Canuk's Island.
Go to his house.  At the door, you will see a magnet on top of the door.
We'll be getting that later:)  Once inside, you will see a duck, a ship in a
bottle, a scroll, and blueprints.  Take the scroll and read it to the duck.
Whammo, Canuk will appear.  He will tell you some babble about the history of
Zork and whatnot.  Show him the disk pieces.  He will now transport you into
the ship in a bottle.  Go into the bottle, and wander around.  The time limit,
I don't think is enforced (if it's really 20 minutes, it's MUCH more than you
need).  Get onto the ship, and go up the stairs, and you will see a number,
write it down.  Now go back downstairs, and down the stairs again.  Pick up
the rag off the cabinet, and zoom in on the safe.  Enter the number you just
wrote down into the safe, and open it.  Now take the disk piece and the rusty
metal thing out of it.  Once you've done this, take your mirror, and put it in
your hand (ie your mouse cursor shows you holding it).  Exit the boat.  Canuk,
who you may have noticed by now, is controlled by Morpheus, will try to turn
you into a duck.  But since you are holding the mirror, it will reflect back
at him.  Now take the scroll, and feed it to the duck, he will lay an egg.
Take the egg, and exit the house.  Now cut the egg open with your knife.  And
you will have the scroll (I don't think this affects the gameplay, but it's
nice to have:)).
    Next thing off, get back onto the boat (show the ferryman the coin again,
and of course ring the bell a few times to get him there) and find your way
back out of the forest.  Now another quick thing to do is to go into town and
show the blacksmith (second building on the right) your rusty old sword.  Get
him to fix the sword, and pay any fee he requests.  He may tell you to come
back in a little while, just wander around until it is fixed.
    Next thing is to go into the other forest, the left fork from the fork in
road from the path out of town.  Once in, the first thing you should do is the
following, go NORTH, EAST, EAST, SOUTH, and you will be at a tree.  Hit the
tree with your sword, and it'll break the sword (and also drop some coins on
the ground) take the coins.  Now exit the forest again, via NORTH WEST WEST
SOUTH, and go to the blacksmith.  Complain to him that your sword is broken.
He will mumble something, and give you a receipt for a new sword.  Now go to
the center of town again, and turn around, to face the bridge, go to the left,
and you will be at Ben's boathouse.  Talk to Ben.  Ask him about the knot he's
holding in his hand.  Show him the picture of Rebecca if you've taken it buy
now, and he will give you a sealed letter (if you don't have the picture yet,
no rush, don't worry) and finally, give him the receipt from the blacksmith,
and he will give you the True Dwarven Sword of Zork.  How nice.  Now back to
the forest (on the fork left).  This a pretty vicious forest and has lots of
nasty things in it, and is rather big, as well, here again is another attempt
at mapping it:)

TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
@     T           T$T
TTTTT TTT TTT TTT T T       +=Entrance
T T T     T   T T   T       \=Metallic Tree
T TTT TTT T T T TTT T       -=Bowman
T   T T T   T T   T T       %=Grue/Fairy Area
T T TTT TTTTTTT * T T       &=Tree Spirit
T T               T T       >=Leaf Trap
T TTT * TTT TTT TTT T       $=Boar Statue
T   T     T T T  >  T       @=Spider Web/Exit
T   T TTTTT&TTTTTTT T       *=The two annoying places that force me to map
T     T     T   T   T         this way(you won't notice anything special
TTTTT TTT TTT T TTTTT         unless your used to mapping mazes of this type)
T   T  %  T   T     T
T TTT TTT TTT TTT TTT
T     T   T     T T T
T TTT TTT T T   T T T
T T   T  -  T       T
T TTT TTT T T TTT T T
T   T T   T T   T T T
TTTTTTTTTTTTT+TTT\TTT

    The metallic tree has already been explained.  To get past the bowman, you
must make sure to have some milk in your containers.  Just give him the milk
and he will go away, and leave his bow and arrows.  Take them.  Next go to the
Grue/Fairy area.  It will say "It's dark, just like Grues like it."  Light a
match (the same way you would use your inventory anywhere else), and the fairy
you just rescued will talk to you, be real friendly with her, and she'll give
you fairy dust (you might have to talk to her once or twice to get the dust
from her).  Next stop, the tree spirit.  Get her to babble her annoying songs.
She really isn't very useful at all.  So just get out of there when you get
bored.  Now the leaf trap.  When you see the leaves, drop something in it (not
your sword) the trap will be sprung.  Now just use your sword to cut your
leaves, and whatever you threw in will fall to the ground, just pick it up.
Now go to the boar memorial.  Strike the memorial thrice (three times) with
your sword, and you will get another disk piece.  You can go to the spider,
but you can't get past it yet anyway, so why bother, get out of this maze.
    Next stop, get your bootie back to Canuk's House (go through the
whispering woods again).  Now at his door, look at the magnet.  Neat, eh?  Pry
it off with you sword.  Now stand there, holding the magnet.  Use magnet with
whistle.  Blow away on the whistle, and a vulture will come swooping down.  Uh
oh!  Not at all, this vulture will carry you to anywhere that you need to go
in the game!  So just go to Pugney's Farm first, go to the barn again, (now
might not be a bad time to fill up on milk), and go to the left behind the
barn.  You will be at the Vulture Pits. Pour the fairy dust onto the rotting
meat, and throw it.  The vultures will come out and eat the meat and fall
asleep.  Go into the pits and take the talon.  Next, run over to the screen
one screen in front of Rebecca's house (it has signs to the cliffs and
Rebecca's house).  Go to the left, and follow that path to the Cliffs of
Depression.  Take the rope from the railing.  Now go back into town, and go
back to Ben the boatman.  Pay him for the boat.  Zoom in on the boat, and take
the rats out of the box and put them into the motor.  Now you will be at the
Witch's house.  Go on inside, she won't bite.  Ok, be careful what expressions
you show to the witch, just be friendly.  Then show her the milk that you have
and she will let you take the bat cage, do so.  Then show her the sealed
letter from Ben, and she will give you staff, take it.  Then she's outta
there.  Now you can either go through the swamp, or use the vulture to get
out.  I recommend going through the swamp, you get 5 points for it.  To do so,
you must walk one step out of the witch's house.  Then take her staff, and
place it on the ground in front of you, if it falls in, it is not safe to walk
there, if it stands on it, you can proceed.  I can't map that, as the swamp is
different for each person, and possibly each time.  Just get out, its usually
not more than 7 or 8 steps.  Once out of the swamp, first stop is going to be
west shanbar, that's on the above ground level of the map.  Go first to the
mayor, and show him the Zorkian book (you got it from the Fool's Memorial),
he will translate a joke for you.  Now go to Ms. Peepers (the schoolhouse) and
show her the book, she will tell you that Rebecca can translate it.  Next stop
is back down below.  Wander around until Rebecca shows up, and play her the
quote from Ms. Peepers about her being able to translate it, then show her the
book.  Next off, go back to Witch Ita, and show her the book (if she's not
there, just wander around until she shows up again), and she will translate
one more joke.  Then go to the blacksmith, and pay his fee, and he will
translate the last joke.  Now go back to the Valley of the Vultures (Mountain
Pass, where you start the game) (remember just click anywhere on the map
now, and the vulture will bring you there).  Click on the sign, and use the
knife to dig up the bonding plant.  Now go back to the Cliffs of Depression.


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Tie the rope to the tree, and climb down the side of the cliff and go into the
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Comedy Club.  Now playback the four jokes that the people just told you to
the audience.  When you are done, Cliff will give you a disk piece.  Now go to
the lighthouse.  Give the keeper a piece of illuminyte, and show him your disk
pieces, he will give you the final piece.  Go up to the top of the lighthouse
and tie the rope onto the railing using the cow-knot that Ben taught you.
Then tie the vulture talon onto the rope, and throw the rope across the river.
The talon will boomerang back and tie itself around the railing, and you will
have a nice rope bridge.  Cross the bridge and follow the path to the Temple
Bel Naire.  Take the shield from the statue, and go into the Temple.  Show the
Holy Woman your sword and she will bless it for you.  Now exit the Temple, and
turn around once.  There will be a gateway in the right side of the screen,
follow that path to the dwarf camp.  Talk to the Dwarven dudes, and they will
give you a hardhat.  Take it.  Then go up to the top left part of the screen
and go to the mining cart.  Now this is very annoying.  The path you must
follow to escape the mining maze is the following, where L is Left, R is
Right, and S is Straight.  Make sure to only click once at each intersection,
as the dumb game buffers your mouse clicks and it will screw you up
occasionally.  The path is L R S R L R S R L L R S.  (By the way that puzzle
is easy, just write down each word the dwarves say to each other that is Left,
Right or Straight).  Once out, you will be at the temple of the muses.  From
left to right, but the following items on each of the statues :
1) Staff
2) Talon
3) Thermozz
Center) Nothing
4) Helmet AND Box
5) Shield
6) Tele-Orb

Then place the disk pieces on the bowl in front, and hit a button (green I
think I hit, I don't think it matters) watch the ensuing stupidity, and they
will reassemble your disk into a whole again.  The center statue is different,
he is not a muse, but the "Catcher" (detailed in the Mayor's filing cabinets).
Make sure to pick up all the items once you are done.  Now take the vulture
down to the Hero's Memorial.  Take the right fork in the road, and go into the
Troll Cave.  Put your helmet on and all will be lit up.  At the first troll,
swing left, the next, swing up, the third, swing down.  Then at the troll
king, click on "Threatening" until he wimps out and gives you the necklace.
Now go back to the green forest, and find your way to the spider.  Show the
spider the necklace, and he will wimp out.  Then go up Flood Control Damn #3
(!), and fill up your flask from the "backside of the water".  Now go to the
whispering woods, and go one space in, and release the bats.  Pick up the bat
guano, and drop it into the flask with the clear water (from FCD#3).  You now
have an invisibility potion.  Now off to the Cliffs of Depression.  From
there, turn around and go to the left.  Throw the Flying Disk of Frobozz, and
it will dispel the illusion.
    Go forward into the castle, and shoot the bow and arrow at the gates, and
the hand will open the door for you.  Once in, an orc will start attacking
you.  Drink the invisibility potion, and then play back the recording of
Alexis the hellhound barking, the orc will wimp out and run away.  Now, at the
Citadel Bridge, throw *EVERYTHING* that you have at the bridge, until you have
NOTHING left in your inventory.  The bridge will come back up.  SAVE THE GAME
NOW:)  Go over the bridge for your final confrontation with Morpheus.  A game
of Survivor.  Only now you play Trembyle instead of Canuk, which makes the
game VERY hard.  Here is the pattern to win, the number represents what order
you should make the moves in.  If he blocks the move, pass your turn, and he
will move to another space, do NOT deviate from the course I give here, or you
will have to forfeit and will have to start over again.

0   5   12  9    0=Where you start
11  8   1   4    14=Where you will end
6   3   10  13   C=Where Canuk/Morpheus will die
C   14   7  2

Again, if he blocks your move, do NOT go anywhere else, just pass your turn,
he MUST move, he is not allowed to pass.  Once you complete this, you've
won the game!  Congratulations.

    The ending of the game is kinda bad, but the game itself is pretty good, I
enjoyed it a lot.  Some of the puzzles (the bra box) were ridiculous, and some
of the scenes (the Mining Maze, COME ON! Infocom games are NOT coordination
games) really annoyed me, but all in all it was a pretty good game.  I don't
know where to find the remaining 7 points, but obviously it isn't very
important.  Till next time, seeya!

-bYtE
-October 11th, 1993

Thanks go out to Ozone and wc who played the game concurrently with me on IRC.
Greets go to Magyar and Patch who can now read this and stop bugging me!:)


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From: POE LIM                                Number: 5987
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 05/31/94  2:11a
Subj: OS/2 & MYST                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve,

On May 27 09:19 in a msg to Poe Lim, Steve Mann of 3:711/440 wrote:

 SM> Mmmm.. Interesting - not IBM Australia I guess.  Can you send me
 SM> info/price on the OS/2 for Windows CD.

Finally via IBM Aust; may just be that IBM Aust has a supply problem; if you
want a copy, or a few copies, give me a call voice.

In case you're wondering, this is via the official channel for IBM software in
Aust.


Cheers,
Poe

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5988
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  6:35a
Subj: !659 Cd's $25 or less!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-DISC SALE...
OS/2 Hobbes $13.05                     $5.00 FedEx shipping (domestic)
Shareware Studio 4 $16.00              $5.00 C.O.D.'s WELCOME!
NightOwl 12 $22.00, Cream of the Crop 3 $22,
>659 CD-ROM titles $25.00 or less!  To order discs or catalog contact:
>FilReq: CDLIST.zip or majic word CONFIG for over 2,200 CD-Titles
Joe Rinehart, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240.0001, or
voice:216.296.4446, voice:216.296.9831, DATA/FAX: [phone] - 24hrs
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE 1.800.6.CONFIG=1800.626.6344 24HRS

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  6:35a
Subj: $22.00 Cream of the crop                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       >>>>>>>>>>>"CREAM OF THE CROP III" only $22.00<<<<<<<<<<
     You've been reading about it & now's your chance to get it!
     The hottest selling shareware CD-ROM title available.  We've
never had a return on previous versions, as it is guaranteed to be
compatible for your system.  SATISFACTION 100% GUARANTEED!
IN-STOCK & SHIPPING DAILY around 5:00pm EST!
IMMEDIATE SHIPPING via FedEX Economy $5.00, Next day $7.00, COD$5.00
To order contact: Joe, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, OH 44240
Internet: [e-mail], Fido: 1:157/479, BBS: 216.296.2244, or our
>NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE: 1-800-6CONFIG (1.800.626.6344)

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5990
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  6:35a
Subj: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:  2@2659
Satisfaction guaranteed....
            ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)  24HOURS 7DAYS

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5991
  To: CHARLIE STRAKER                          Date: 05/31/94  1:13p
Subj: Re: Games for sale or tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Charlie,
    Make it Day of the Tentacle and $20 and its a deal,
Did you want Myst or Rebel Assault!

              Thanks,
                   Sam Figueroa
Just send it to me and I will cover the shipping back to ya!

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5992
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 05/31/94  1:14p
Subj: Flyer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Scott,
    When are ya guys gonna put out some NEW discs?

         Lookin for the flyer this week

              Sam Figueroa

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From: ANDREAS LUNDGREN                       Number: 5993
  To: BENNY GUEST                              Date: 05/30/94  3:29a
Subj: Enough already                          Refer: NONE
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Hello Benny!

23 May 94 12:17, Benny Guest wrote to Lon Seidman:

 BG> Yes, you are NOT alone.  When I'm looking for CD advertisements I
 BG> go to  ...."CDROM_SALE".... like it SHOULD be.  It would be nice to
 BG> have an echo where we can get 'Information and Help' and NOT have
 BG> to filter through hundreds of advertisements to get it.

It's an even greater problem for those of us who are on the other side of "the
pond"... We can't call all those 800-numbers :-/

 BG> I VOTE "Enough Already" also!  <Grin>

Me too :-)

//Andreas

[e-mail]

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From: CHARLES HOLLEY                         Number: 5994
  To: BEVIS LOWRY                              Date: 05/31/94  4:02p
Subj: Myst Help-father page                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I did all that word for word but nothing happened. I'll keep trying

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 5995
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 05/31/94  7:52p
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Rv>> Well, you could put in back in the plastic bag when your done,
Rv>that doesn't > sound like too much trouble to me.  I guess putting
Rv>them in Ziploc bags (the > stronger ones made of heavier plastic)
Rv>wouldn't be a bad idea either.

[snip]

Rv>I'll probably opt for buying empty jewel cases locally, and
Rv>cutting out part of the cardboard box to make a cover.  Do
Rv>you have any good suggestions for alternative ways of
Rv>protecting and keeping handy a bunch of CD-ROMs?

GC>A nike shoebox and a roll of scotties.

May I suggest something simpler to you both? Try the slip cases
for the 5.25 inch discs. They are very effective, protective,
convenient and should cost you no more than a question to someone
who uses that size disk. Cheers!
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 5996
  To: RAINER VONSALESKI                        Date: 05/31/94  7:58p
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Rv>> Well, you could put in back in the plastic bag when your done,
Rv>that doesn't > sound like too much trouble to me.  I guess putting
Rv>them in Ziploc bags (the > stronger ones made of heavier plastic)
Rv>wouldn't be a bad idea either.

[snip]

Rv>I'll probably opt for buying empty jewel cases locally, and
Rv>cutting out part of the cardboard box to make a cover.  Do
Rv>you have any good suggestions for alternative ways of
Rv>protecting and keeping handy a bunch of CD-ROMs?

GC>A nike shoebox and a roll of scotties.

May I suggest something simpler to you both? Try the slip cases
for the 5.25 inch discs. They are very effective, protective,
convenient and should cost you no more than a question to someone
who uses that size disk. Cheers!
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From: TODD OSTRER                            Number: 5997
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  2:17a
Subj: Adult CD-ROM List                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Visa, Mastercard Accepted!

  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.

 *    W O R L D      W I D E      S H I P P I N G    *

     Adult Titles (Must state age 18+)
     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library ......31.00    Moving Fantasies..............39
 After Dark Trilogy (Movie)NEW.45.00    Mystique of the Orient (Mov)..46
 All Beauties (New!)...........39.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Mov)..48
 Amateur Models (New!).........39.00    PC-PIX 1......................39
 Animation Fantasies 1.........39.00    PC-PIX 2......................39
 Animation Fantasies 2.........39.00    Phone Sex (WAV recordings)....29
 Asian Ladies..................39.00    Adult Sampler.................19
 Betrayal (Movie)..............55.00    Physical Therapy..............29
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......44.00    Porkware 1....................39
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......39.00    Porkware 2....................39
 Debbie Does Dallas (Movie)....49.00    Private Collection 1..........39
 Deep Throat (Movie)...........49.00    Private Collection 2..........39
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......51.00    Private Pictures..............39
 Digital Dreams................39.00
 Dirty Talk (Movie)............45.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............39.00
 Erotic Encounters 1...........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....39.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (M).59
 Extreme Delights (New!).......39.00    Smutware......................39
 Giffy Gold....................39.00    So Much Stareware.............39
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......49.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......39
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......49.00    Storm 1.......................39
 Hidden Obsessions (Movie).....52.00    Storm 3.......................39
 High Volume Nudes (New!)......39.00    Super Smutware (New!).........39
 Hot Pix 2.....................OUT      Storm 2.......................39
 Hot Pix 3.....................39.00    T&A 2 the Maxx................35
 Hot Pix 4.....................39.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........39
 Hot Pix 5.....................39.00    Visual Fantasies..............39
 Kama Sutra (Movie)............49.00    Volcano.......................39
 Lovely Ladies II..............39.00
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........39.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29

 101 Sex Positions 1...........45.00    Best of Vivid (Movie).........49
 101 Sex Positions 2...........45.00    Bustin Out! (Movie)...........49
 Cat & Mouse (Movie)...........55.00    FAO 3 Disk Set................79
 Foxes.........................39.00    Gay World 1..(Gay)............49
 Gay World 2......(Gay)........49.00    GBL (Gay,Bi,Lesbian)..........39
 Girls of J. Stephen Hicks.....40.00    Girls of Vivid 2..............49
 Glamour Girls 1943............59.00    Hot Hunks......(Gay)..........49
 House of Dreams (Movie).......52.00    House of Sleeping Beauties....49
 King Dong (Movie).............52.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49
 Legends of Porn (Movie).......49.00    Lovely Ladies 2...............41
 Manpower....(Gay).............49.00    My First Time (Movie).........48
 NixPix Hot Pix 1..............OUT!!    Paradise Club (Movie).........56
 Pixure Rom 1..................39.00    Pixure Rom 2..................39
 Pixure Rom 3..................39.00    Pixure Rom Triple Exposure...102
 Q69...........................36.00    Secrets (Movie)...............44
Tranz...(Chicks with Dicks)...39.00
 Wicked (Kodak Photo CD).......53.00    Wicked (Movie)................55
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 INFO/ORDERS..........503-257-7255..24hrs   World Wide Shipping Via
 BBS (Line 1) ........503-257-7264..24hrs   Federal Express: Call Our BB
 BBS (Line 2).........503-257-7341..24hrs   For our Huge Catalog of Over
 ORDERS ONLY!       1-800-400-7255..24hrs   * 1100 * Titles,and Descript
 Email: [e-mail]
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Visa, Mastercard, Check, Money Orders Accepted:
Shipping is: $6.00 for up to '5' Cd's (2lbs).  (U.S.A. Only)
International Orders Please ask for Current shipping Rates.

     *************  Call 1-800-400-7255 *************
For your ORDER Today:

**********************************************************
P.S. Look for Our New ADULT CD-Rom Disk to be Out Soon:
Over '1500' Original Gif's, NEVER Seen Anywhere Before:
File.BBS Descriptions, NO BBS Adds! All Orginal From 800x600 to 1024x768
***********************************************************

       (c) 1994  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.
       We are not Affiliated with any other Cd-Rom Company




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From: TODD OSTRER                            Number: 5998
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  2:18a
Subj: STRIP Poker Adult CD-ROM!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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            STRIP POKER ADULT CD FOR WINDOWS!

     Pacific Data Graphics / 2473 S.E. 135th. Portland, OR. 97233
     Your One STOP Shop for Adult CD's. (350 + Adult Titles)
     Visa / Mastercard / Money Orders / Checks  Accpeted
     503-257-7255   '24' HR. Voice# for Help,Orders
     1-800-400-7255 '24' HR. Voice# for ORDERS Only.
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Introducing the New Strip Poker for Windows:
Made in Germany:
Play against '12' German Women.
Choose 256 Colors or 16,777,216 Colors.
Sharp Photos go to Total Nudity!
Must have Windows to Run this CD.

Advertised in National Mags. for $79.00
OUR Price $41.00 + Shipping
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We accept '24' Hr. Phone Orders, or you can Email an order to:
[e-mail]
International Orders Always Accepted:
While your at it, Ask for our Adult CD Catalog with over 350+ Titles!
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From: TODD OSTRER                            Number: 5999
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  2:18a
Subj: New Adult Titles!                       Refer: NONE
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               ** NEW ADULT CD-ROM DISKS!  **

     Pacific Data Graphics / 2473 S.E. 135th. Portland, OR. 97233
     Your One STOP Shop for Adult CD's. (350 + Adult Titles)
     Visa / Mastercard / Money Orders / Checks  Accpeted
     1-800-400-7255 '24' HR. ORDERS ONLY
     503-257-7255   '24' HR. Question / Order Line
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Oriental 1 $39.00. 842 Files. 800+ Oriental Nudes in .BMP Format
Oriental 2 $39.00  841 Files. 800+ Oriental Nudes in .BMP Format
Nova Collection 3 $39.00. 1484 Files, All New XXX Gif's.  (BBS Ready)

PORNMANIA: $59.00. 100% Original, Private full screen Movies,
Pictures & Interactive Games. Over 1200 MB. of Hard-CORE Movies for
DOS & Windows all selectable from thumbnail menus. Over 30 different
animated porntris scenes & Patterns. Escape from different scenes while
being chased by Deadly hookers. User Friendly - Your remote control
guides you through the world of Adult Entertainment. Playable in:
English, French, Dutch, or German. '2' CD SET! 1 for Dos & 1 for Windows

SEX-Games $54.00  84 Minute XXX Movie. Peter Uses his computer to tap
into the Network of a computer Dating service. He Fulfills the X-Rated
Fantasies of it's Sexiest Members.
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EMAIL: [e-mail]
For Our Latest Catalog of over 370+ Adult CD-ROM Disks.
Movies, Interactive, Gif Disks, Gay Titles, Fetish Etc.
WORLD WIDE SHIPPING!  Visa / Mastercard Accepted
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From: DANIEL CAROLLO                         Number: 6000
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 05/31/94  8:28a
Subj: Looking for a French CD.                Refer: NONE
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Thanks
Daniel    :-)


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From: DANIEL CAROLLO                         Number: 6001
  To: STEPHEN EATON                            Date: 05/31/94  8:56a
Subj: Electronics Subjects CDs.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <May 14 07:52>, Stephen Eaton (3:690/352@fidonet) writes:
 DC> I am still looking for CDs with IC data sheets or related
 DC> information.

 >They are out, but VERY expensive.  Something like AUD$3000 for a
 >subscription.  You get an updated disk every couple of months.  The
 >ones I've seen also have a supplier list and equivelents for every
 >component.

Thanks for the info, Stephen. These _are_ the ones I'm looking for, and
although  I don't have the AUD$ rate in mind right now, the price looks sort
of like what I had in mind.

I have a few disks (360k and 1.4MB) of Motorola, Texas Instruments and National
Semiconductors stuff around, and I'm just waiting for that sort of info to be
released on CDs.

Best regards from Sunny South Africa, and thanks again.

Daniel    :-)


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From: GARY COLMAN                            Number: 6002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94 12:08p
Subj: URGENT                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi

Could someone PLEASE let me know URGENTLY where I
can get hold of drivers (OS/2 preferred, but DOS
will do) for the Hitachi CDR-3500.

I'm willing to FREQ L/D if needed.

Thanks
  Gary

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From: B.J. HEATH                             Number: 6003
  To: JIM KEHO                                 Date: 05/31/94  8:19a
Subj: CD's for sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JK> B.J., I have Mad Dog McCree w/docs/no box.. $22.00 includes shipping! OR I'
JK>trade even for the Sound Blaster Pro (Yea, Right!) <g>.. Let me know if you'
JK>interested in buying MadDog.. Thanks, Jim (602)-486-9869 or reply!!

Jim,
Thanks for the reply, but I'll have to pass on that right now.
BJ
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From: BARRIE BARRINGTON                      Number: 6004
  To: GEORGINA MARTINEZ                        Date: 05/29/94  2:42p
Subj: MYST                                    Refer: NONE
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 GM> Myst is a pretty new game,

It has been around for almost a year now. It came out for the Mac first. I
finished it back in October of '93.
It is, I think, the best game out there.

Barrie

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From: BARRIE BARRINGTON                      Number: 6005
  To: BEVIS LOWRY                              Date: 05/29/94  2:46p
Subj: RECOMMENDING A CD-ROM GAM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BL> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a CD-ROM game
 I am in the middle of "Wrath of the Gods". It is almost as good as Myst,
some might say better than Myst. It is quite similar in that you go about
solving puzzles but you keep an inventory of stuff and do die on occasion.
Dying, however, is good as you end up in Hades and often find out how
-not- to die the next time. "Wrath" is based on Greek myths. Give it a
try.

Barrie

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From: WILLIAM MAZE                           Number: 6006
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  1:45p
Subj: Dracula Unleased--Help                  Refer: NONE
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Well, I'm new to the CD game ... I haven't used one yet.  I bought Dracula
Unleased the other day, and I can't get it to work for the life of me.
According to the paperwork, my system is compatable, and I'm using a systems
disk, as the paperwork advised.

Is there something I'm missing?  Or are all games going to be this big of
a pain?  The problem is that I can't free up enough memory.  Maybe someone
can help ...

Here is what I've put on my system disk for the config and autoexec.  I've
tried messing around with some of the settings, but there's no effect on
the memory required.  The only thing I've actually been able to do is load
in my emm manager ... Doing that increases the amount of memory required
for the game to operate, but heck, it was at least a change.
REM Viacom New Media. CD-ROM boot disk. 1993

FILES  = 30         {I've started with both files and buffers at 20}
BUFFERS= 30
STACKS=9,256        {I didn't have the stacks in originally}
DEVICE=c:\dos\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=c:\dos\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=c:\DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:10 /T:3 /I:3
DEVICE=c:\dos\mouse.sys

I've tried using the emm386.exe in the config.sys, but it only eats
up more memory.  I also tried reducing the /M:10 value to 2, but it
had no effect on the memory required.

The autoexec.bat reads:

REM Viacom New Media. CD-ROM boot disk. 1993

@Echo OFF
PROMPT $p$g
PATH a:\DOS;
c:\BIN\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001

I've toyed around with the path by moving everything I needed onto the
systems disk (although I didn't move all the cd devices onto the systems
disk)  Still, no effect.  I keep getting the same thing!  Arrrg!

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6007
  To: DIANE PENCIL                             Date: 05/31/94  8:12p
Subj: Pdx Shareware CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> are you he one with the Paradox cd's? It sounds like a subscription o
-> something. I would be very interested in getting prices and a descrip
-> the Paradox CD's you have available.
Yes. The June editions are now shipping (or visit us at Borland DevCon
in Orlando next week).
Here are the file counts for EMS Prof. Shareware's June'94 CDROM
and diskette libraries of Paradox Programmer's shareware. $59.50.
Voice:[phone] Fax:[phone] Buckhurst Ct.,
Olney MD 20832-1830
***  PD/SW Files in the Current Paradox Programmer's Library  ***
Applications       19  Arrays              2  Backup              1
Barcode             2  Benchmarking        1  Browse              5
Bug Fix             1  Buttons             6  Clones              2
Communication      11  Configuration       5  Converter          12
Crosstab            2  Crosstabs           1  Data Compression    2
Data Dictionary     4  Data Entry          7  Date               14
DDE                 3  Debugger           10  Dialog Box         19
Directory          18  Documentor         31  Duplicate           1
Editor              6  Editor Support     11  Education           1
Error Handler       3  Export/Import      11  File Management     2
Finance             4  Forms              18  Games               4
Graphics           11  Hardware Info.      4  Help                7
Icons               1  Index               6  Information         9
Interface           6  Keyboard            2  Library             8
MailMerge           1  Math               11  Memo Fields         7
Memory              3  Menu               19  Merge               1
Misc.              79  Network            11  PAL Extension       5
PdoxWin            66  Pick List           4  Printer Control    10
Program Generator   4  Progress            4  PXEngine           18
Query               7  Record Move         3  Reference          28
Repair              6  Report             34  Runtime             1
Screen Control     19  Search              8  Security           10
Setkey              3  Sound               6  Soundex             3
Speedbar            5  Spell Check         1  SQL                 6
String Function    22  Structure          15  Table Packing       1
Tabulation          1  Text Editing        1  Translator          3
Tutorial           19  User Interface     10  Validation         11
Video               2  Windows             5  Workspace          13
Zipcode etc.        5
Total Files in Library:  784


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From: DAVID LEIVA                            Number: 6008
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  6:43p
Subj: CD'S FOR TRADE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following CD's for trade:

Rebel Assault
Megarace
Tony Larusso II

I am looking for Myst, Cinemania 94 and Sam and Max. I am willing to
consider any offer.



Dave

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From: JOHN NELSON                            Number: 6009
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  3:00p
Subj: Cds for trade                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all, I have a couple of disks I would like to offer for trade.
7th Guest
Quantum Gate
Labrinth of Time
Kings Quest VI
Stellar 7

Let me know if you want one (or more) of these. I would really like to
get Myst if anyone has it to trade. And I am open to other offers as
well. Thanks



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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 6010
  To: NORAYR HAJIAN                            Date: 05/31/94 11:32p
Subj: The Bible Library                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Norayr!

28 May 94 12:51, Norayr Hajian wrote to All:

 NH> I just got my Bible Library CD.  Man, whoever said that it was difficult
 NH> to use was not kidding!

What all is on the CD? Is it worth the time to take learning about it?

 NH> Now I see why the price is below $30.

Where did you get it?

Thanks,

Mark

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From: RAYMOND FERNANDEZ                      Number: 6011
  To: ROBERT ZELLERS                           Date: 05/31/94  5:56p
Subj: Re: Cd Titles Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> RF>                               All Titles 13.95
-> RF> Sakura @
-> RF> La Traviata @
-> RF> Sweet Summer  @!!
-> RF> Insatiable Woman  @!
->
-> What kind of deal for someone buying 4?? Include shipping.
->
sorry.. the 13.95 is the dead lowest I can go.. I am out of the Sakura
and most of the other titles. but i have 1 of each of latriv, sw.sum.
and insationable women.. the shipping will be 5 bucks.. leme know.. I
ran an add in a publication down by me and pretty much almost sold out.

                                                           -Ray

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From: BILL KENDALL                           Number: 6012
  To: ADAM HIGGINS                             Date: 05/31/94  5:32p
Subj: HELL CAB FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Well I was looking for a CD trade, I have Comptons Encyclopedia so I don't
need the ST one and I don't really need a world atlas.
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From: MICHAEL HAJOVSKY                       Number: 6013
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/30/94  3:05p
Subj: NEW SOURCE CODE CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 MS>     Title:  CD SOURCEBOX               $27.10      |

 MS> BBS-Ready * Includes source code and utilities for C,


I have purchased SourceBox1. That CD is all screwed up. What
gets me is the lousy attitude of the publisher, Dave Perkovich
of Damart Enterprises.  One of the many mistakes of this CD is
that the same FILES.BBS is in both directory 004 and 005. I
called Dave Perkovich after you gave me his number and I also
sent him several messages about it. The only response I received
from him was a message: "The only available file listing is what
is found in the directory."

I do mind so much the publisher's mistakes. I do mind the
publisher's "Up Your's" attitude about it. The hell freezes over
before I buy any of his CDs in the future.

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 6014
  To: RICK POTTS                               Date: 06/01/94  1:13a
Subj: Game blaster cd 16                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Media Vision may not last another 6 months given their current
 > financial, management and legal troubles. I'm not sure buying Media
 > Vision products is a good idea, at least until they get through their
 > current crisis.

   This type of information has it's good points and bad. It's good to know
   so that buyers can ask them if an alternate company is being looked into
for service contracts to maintain their warranties.

   On the other hand, a "rumor" passes very quickly thru the nets and can
   drive a financially troubled company right over the brink.

   Since you have an internet address I took a chance and crash mailed
   a message to the BBS your message in here came thru, from Scottsdale.
   I'm hoping to hear from you netmail ASAP. If you didn't get the
   crash mail, I wanted to know if you were a relation of John Potts.

   Marlina
   716-881-6430 (EST-Bflo, NY) available 5 PM - 1 AM

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From: SHARRON OVERBY                         Number: 6015
  To: RAINER VONSALESKI                        Date: 05/31/94  8:13p
Subj: Re: Packaging of CD-ROMs                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

These days, CD-ROMs are packaged in many different packaging styles. Most of
the game discs for example will be packed in a nice p-case (jewel case);
however, many of them will be packaged in the thin paper or plastic type
sleeve or even the cardboard mailers. It is perfectly ok to store the disc in
the same package it came in.

I work for a CD manufacturing company and it has just been my observation
about the various packaging styles. I wouldn't worry too much about damaging
the disc unless you just are blatantly harsh to them. If you can find some
sort of small envelope that is like a 5 x 7", they will do just find.

But, jewel case packaging is not necessarily a given as there are many other
methods being tried and tested.

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From: JON HOLMAN                             Number: 6016
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 05/31/94  5:24p
Subj: CD-ROM Games For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry, I picked up myst already!

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From: GARY HILBERT                           Number: 6017
  To: SETH KANTER                              Date: 05/30/94 11:56a
Subj: DOOM, ALTERNATE WAD FILES               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SK> I assume that I type it exactly the way you showed with the wad name
  >for the xxxx's? Well if it works I'll chant your name as the blood
  >splashes across my 50" screen in surround sound.

Yes, for example:
  doom -devparm -file forest.wad

  50" screen with surround sound.... hope you have a charge card at the
  local funny farm   :-)   sounds pretty intense

and if you connect via modem use:
  sersetup -com2 <-deathmatch> -file forest.wad
  where < > is optional,   substitute YOUR com number com1, com3, com4 etc

  NOTE BENE : this method assumes you've already established connection
  between the two modems via redirected DOS commands (which is the only way
  that works for me)

05/30/94 11:55 am   Gary A Hilbert   Northampton Pennsylvania USA
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From: PETER PRASAD                           Number: 6018
  To: JASON TALLEY                             Date: 05/31/94  8:11p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom & Pro Audio S                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jason Talley to All <=-

 JT> *@SUBJECT:CD-Rom & Pro Audio Spectrum
 JT> N I have a Creative Labs CD and a Pro Audio Plus sound card... The
 JT> problem is that the cables will not fit from the CD to the Sound
 JT> Board... Has anyone else made this blundering mistake of buying an
 JT> incompatible sound card for their CD and been able to get it to work...
 JT> I've tried rig job I could think of to get it to work... If anyone has
 JT> a Sony CD, this is definately the card for you!  If someone wants to
 JT> upgrade to this card, I would trade for a SB Pro... They are SUPPOSEDLY
 JT> equal, other than the fact that the SB pro will work w/ my drive!!

     Pro Audio Spectrum, i have one too but mine has a SCSI interface, any
     SCSI CD ROM's will work with this, you should not haave trouble
     connecting the interface cable, I hope thats what you are having trouble
     with, or is it the audio cable ? This Sony CD does it have 50 pin
     interface or something around 40 pins.......

     Peter

... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: STEVE MARTINDALE                       Number: 6019
  To: CHERYL SWIFT                             Date: 05/31/94  4:54a
Subj: CD-Rom that won't read a certain disk   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hmmm... That is a new one to me but I have read that programs recorded on to
Cd's using a Writable CD drive won't run on a few drives.  Try and see if a new
driver is available from the manufacture of your drive.  I will investigate on
my end as well.  Good Luck and keep me posted.

Steve Martindale

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From: STEVE MARTINDALE                       Number: 6020
  To: RON BRIDGEMON                            Date: 05/31/94  4:56a
Subj: Jurassic Park CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What exactly was the problem.  Uploading your fix could help some else
struggling through the same mess.

Modeming right along,
Steve Martindale

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From: STEVE MARTINDALE                       Number: 6021
  To: DU LAM                                   Date: 05/31/94  5:01a
Subj: cd-rom help!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What it sounds like is that the game is not configured to play sound and that
probably you don't have a hardware problem at all.  Try and see if the game has
a menu that you can pull down to set the sound.  Also I have seen that there is
a program that you run that will set the settings you need for the game before
you run the program.  Keep the IRQ and DMA settings handy if the program does
not automatically scan to see what they are set at you will have input it
manually. If that doesn't help it would be handy to find out exactly what game
you are trying to run.

Cheers,
Steve Martindale

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From: MIKE COOLEY                            Number: 6022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  2:23p
Subj: Supaplex Game Want Info                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for the original Supaplex, not the pirated game. Could any
one foward any information as to the Author or Digital Intergration
Software Company. This program is on CD/Rom as shareware program but it
is the pirated copy. I want to buy from the licensed vendor or from the
Author or mentioned above software company. Programs such as this one
should be supported by users as it is surely to be the Mother of All
Classics in the future. It has over 100 hard (I mean hard levels).
Please foward in this message base any address, etc. that anyone may
have on the game SUPAPLEX.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6023
  To: ROGER SMITH                              Date: 05/28/94  4:19p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE ADVICE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>You are MORE likely to damage your CD getting it INTO the average
>>caddy than in putting it into caddyless CD-ROM drives.

>But you only put it in a caddy once.

 If you pay the extra $$$ for a caddy per disc.

>>>At about $3 a piece

>>I wish I could get them THAT cheap - my cost AS A DEALER is higher
>>than THAT!

>Call MEI.  :-)

 Figures....

 8-O


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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 6024
  To: JIM KEHO                                 Date: 05/29/94 10:01p
Subj: CD's for sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   │  B.J., I have Mad Dog McCree w/docs/no box.. $22.00 includes shipping! OR
I
   │ trade even for the Sound Blaster Pro (Yea, Right!) <g>.. Let me know if
you
   │ interested in buying MadDog.. Thanks, Jim (602)-486-9869 or reply!!

I'll take Mad Dog.  How does $25 including shipping to Canada sound?

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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 6025
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 05/31/94  3:58a
Subj: Blowout Sale!!!!!!!!!!!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

you understood it just fine!


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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 6026
  To: DAN WHEELER                              Date: 05/31/94  4:04a
Subj: Multiple CD-Roms                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In config.sys not much, each on a separate line, however, combine them
all on one line in autoexec and you will most likely have to use Qemm to
make all the drivers load high as I did, got rid of em finally went to
scsi pioneer 6 disk unit, much better.

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 6027
  To: CHERYL SWIFT                             Date: 05/31/94  8:55a
Subj: Cd-rom that won't read a                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom that reads all of our CDs except one.  The disk
CS>is OK. . . .several people have read it on their computers.
CS>I've cleaned the drive and the CD, and it still won't read it.

CS>called "Sights and Sounds- All American Series Vol. 8."

CS>any ideas of what to try?  I hate to just give up and say it's
CS>incompatible.

There are only a few CD-ROM discs that I have problems with, using my own
Mitsumi.  In one case, it is a defective DIR on the CD itself (one of the early
Night Owls).  In all other problems cases, it has been the lack of sufficient
memory available to deal with the huge directories on the discs.

There is an easy way to test.

You may already have a plain vanilla disk for your computer.  That is, a
bootable system disk that has no files other than the two hidden DOS files and
COMMAND.COM.  Make a copy of it.  Add the files necessary to run your CD-ROM,
and nothing else.  You'll have to build a proper autoexec.bat and config.sys no
doubt to load the CD-ROM support.  Using this new vanilla disk, boot up the
system and try again.  If it fails THIS time, you know it is almost surely the
drive or the disc. Otherwise, it is something else in the system; wise bettors
look at the memory you assigned with a jaundiced eye.

The sounds portion you'll have to deal with separately.  But if the system
works with one disc, and not some other, that is not likely the problem you
mentioned.

 the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA

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From: NATHAN LEWIS                           Number: 6028
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 05/31/94  4:56p
Subj: Free CD! Canada Too!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Scott Huffman to All <=-

 SH> *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*  FREE CDROM DISC OFFER  *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 SH> Do Not Call Our 1-800 number for this offer! This offer is ONLY
 SH> valid in the Contiguous United States And Canada! Yes, Canada too!
 SH> How do I get the FREE CDROM Disc? Mail the S/H charges to us at:
 SH> The Profit Group - 824 E. Ft. Lowell Rd. - Tucson, AZ. 85719
 SH> Shipping/Handling Charges:     Contiguous U.S. - $2.50
 SH> Canada          - $3.00                           ^^^^
                                                       ||||
                                                       ^^^^
                               Big rip off.  I looked on the package you
                               sent me this in, and it only cost you $.52
                               to send it to me.  And I live halfway across
                               the US!!!  (Wisconsin)
                               Not exacly free.
                               See ya!
                               Nathan Lewis


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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 6029
  To: JONATHAN BLANK                           Date: 05/31/94  1:39p
Subj: CD-ROMs for trade / swap!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jonathan - is the corel cd complete?  If yes, how much do you want for it?
Jerry

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From: TONY CHEBLI                            Number: 6030
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 05/30/94  3:58p
Subj: Help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

i would like you to help me if you can please i have robofx too
i allready set the files up but the only problem i have is
setting the nodes from the robofx utilities so please call me if
you can at work any time between 3pm to 11pm on 956-5179 or at
home 354-4324

                                                 thanks
                                              TONY CHEBLI



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From: MARK KNIGHT                            Number: 6031
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 05/30/94  6:46p
Subj: Validation                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
     When my fiance tries to call the board, she can't access
the call back verifier because it says that the number is
already used.  Well, we life together that is why we have the
same number, you are more than welcome to call us and speak to
both of us to verify we do indeed live together.  But, Bambi
Alderson would really appreciate having full access on the
board.
                    Speed Racer <Mark Knight>



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From: SCOTT GRAHAM                           Number: 6032
  To: CRAIG WANG                               Date: 05/31/94 11:11a
Subj: Re: cd-rom games for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CW> I have MegaRace CD forsale, $25 plus shipping.


If you still have Megarace for $25 I'd like to buy it.

You can give me a call at 800-832-4729 8 to 5 est.

                                                        -Scott


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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 6033
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 05/31/94  8:01a
Subj: Cinemania '94                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JK>Cinemania '94 w/docs...$28.00 shipped
SF>I have Rebel Assault for trade for Cinemania '94?
Sam, I already have Cinemania sold (pending the check in the mail).. I've also
already had/sold Rebel Assault.. But, IF the above deal should fall through,
and the other 2 that were interested too, then maybe we can work out
something.. Thanks!


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6034
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/30/94  2:17p
Subj: WHERE IS BRICE'S CDROM?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF:>>We stock what we sell.

BF:> Easy to do, with your small list of titles....

I advertise around 510 titles, and I stock around 510 titles.  If that's
"small" by your standards, that's OK, but be fair:  Give me some idea
of what scale you're using to measure "small".  For example, how many
CDs do you keep in stock in relation to the number you advertise?  8)

Just curious,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6035
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/30/94  2:17p
Subj: UNDELIVERED CD ORDER FROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF:> I'm trying too, but I can't get anything out of the Post Office so far but
BF:>grief and demands for "fees" for them to investigate THEIR shipping
BF:>mistakes....

That's true.  You're going to have to bite the bullet, and pay their $6
charge for issuing an "inquiry" any time a foreign parcel is involved.
Once the inquiry has gone through, THEN you can issue an insurance claim,
(If you paid the insurance fee).  Isn't our Post Office wonderful!  I say
nuke 'em and turn it over to private industry.  It would cost more, but at
least the parcels would get there on time, and we wouldn't have to put up
with the Postal moron-zombies on a daily basis. <g>

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6036
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/30/94  2:17p
Subj: ENOUGH ALREADY                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF:> Also, CDROM_SALE has been in existance for WELL under a year, and has been
BF:>the Backbone for very few months - most folks that carry CDROM don't seem
to

Not true.  I joined CDROM_SALE in late 1992, so I know it has been around
at least since then.  (Or is this another one of your year-old messages?)

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6037
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  2:18p
Subj: CD-ROM SUPER SALE!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                        |   CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
 Magic Death...................15.90    Total Baseball 1994...........23.90
 Majestic Places...............23.90    Total Baseball 1992...........14.00
 Mother Earth 2................19.70    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......49.00
 Roger Ebert Movie Companion...24.20    Libris Britannia 2............24.50
 Shareware Online 2............13.50    Macromind Action..............25.00
 Sizzle........................19.00    Sweet Dreams..................19.00
 Amazing Universe..............38.50    Compton's Interactive Ency....49.50
 Total Baseball 1993...........18.70    Britannica Select Software....16.30
 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6038
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  2:18p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP 3!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

         |  Title:  CREAM OF THE CROP 3         Price:  $21.90   |
         |           N  O  W    I  N    S  T  O  C  K            |
   * 601mb total * Virus-scanned with the LATEST scanning software
   * FILES.BBS support w/ AUTOMATIC installation for most major BBS's
   * 0% internal duplicates * less than 500 dupes to any other CD.
   * AVERAGE file date is 1/21/94. * MOST CURRENT CD on the market!
   * SUPER SPECIAL 2-CD PACKAGE:  Cream of the Crop 2 + 3.............$39

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * Bill Gates just got divorced. His wife didn't do Windows.

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 6039
  To: B.J. HEATH                               Date: 05/31/94 10:35p
Subj: Sound Blaster Pro Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > The front of the box says SBP-2B.  Is that what you want?  Make me an

   That's what I want, a Basic. How much including shipping are
   you asking for this? You can call me if you like or give me
   a number to call you.

   716-881-6430 (EST-Bflo, NY) available 5 PM - 1 AM

   Marlina

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From: BRYAN ALEXANDER                        Number: 6040
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  9:30p
Subj: Genealogy                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a source of CD-roms with genealogical information, ie.
census records, birth and death notices, etc for sale or rent.  I would
be grateful for any information you could supply.  --Bryan Alexander


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From: DAVID BAIRD                            Number: 6041
  To: MERLE COLDWELL                           Date: 05/30/94  8:41p
Subj: EZROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Merle!

Friday May 27 1994 22:27, Merle Coldwell wrote to David Baird:

 MC>         I use EZ-ROM and am extremely happy about it. I have 2 CD drives
 MC> in which I rotate about 20 CDs (almost daily!). So at any given time I
 MC> have at least two(2) online! Therefore, given EZ-ROMs capabilities, users
 MC> can D/L from the two currently online and/or put in requests from ANY of
 MC> the offline disks as well! Very easy to set up! and I will help you if you
 MC> want it for setting up batches to rotate your menus and active disks. Just
 MC> ask nice<grin> Now, I'm having a real problem with a door called

The first help I need is a place to freq this file from... Anybody got it up
for freq???

David

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 6042
  To: TONY QUACH                               Date: 06/01/94 12:10a
Subj: CD's For Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TQ>hi, i was wondering what is "Walk Thrus and Flybys" CD? I have 2 adult CD-RO
TQ>(xxx gifs) and the After Dark Trilogy disc (4 pornos on a disc) for trade. d
TQ>happen to have the 7th guest? let me know ASAp! thanks

     Hello Tony, the CD is full of animation files, mostly in the fli
     format. There is a lot of good stuff on this CD. If your
     interested, let me know what the 2 Adult CD's are you have. I'll
     trade for one as long as I have'nt had it before. Reply here or
     you can contact me at [phone]. Thanks.

   Robert.

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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6043
  To: BARRIE BARRINGTON                        Date: 05/31/94  8:42p
Subj: MYST-GEAR WORLD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In the Mac version of this game, there was a 'bug' in the gear world that
prevented the tower form turning properly. I wonder if is the case with
the other versions as well. A patch for the Mac version was released that
fixed it. Somehow, though, I was able to solve the whole thing without use
of the fix-probably because I finished it before I knew about the problem.

  I own the mac version, and suspected as much.....  Could you tell me how to
get the patch? thanks


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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6044
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 05/31/94  8:43p
Subj: CD's Tradeb                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

having problems with the bbs i was on.  Hope you get this.


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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6045
  To: BARRIE BARRINGTON                        Date: 05/31/94 11:28p
Subj: MYST-GEAR WORLD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

oh yeah.  And if you don't have the patch, could you maybe just tell me what
the four symbols are?  Thanks for the help.


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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6046
  To: CHERKAOUI SIDI                           Date: 05/31/94 11:30p
Subj: MYST SOLVE?                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

thanks for the help.  I figured out the hting with the gear world and now I've
run into a technical problem, but I think I've got it worked out.
(:)


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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6047
  To: GEORGE MANOLIS                           Date: 05/31/94 11:32p
Subj: Myst - Gear World                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In case no one's answered yet, the
  HINT IS HERE FOR THE GEAR WORLD!  THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO KNOW, DON'T LOOK!!


pages in the gear world are in secret rooms beside the thrones.  Just click on
a suspicious-looking place in the wall and you'll find the rooms.


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6048
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  9:56p
Subj: HACKER CHRONICLES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Data Express, Inc. is now the exclusive worldwide distributor for
the HACKER CHRONICLES Volumes I and II CD-ROMs.  The agreement was
executed last week between Scott Higginbotham (the producer) and myself
and will continue for 2 years.

We'll begin distribution of Volume I on June 15, or as soon as we
complete the redesign of the packaging.  Volume II (a NEW release) will
begin distribution on/around July 1.

The HACKER CHRONICLES is the definitive and original guide to the
computer underground.  Don't be fooled by cheap imitations and
illegal rip-offs...

Please contact us for wholesale pricing.

Tim Helton, President
Data Express, Inc.
11030 NW 26th Place
Sunrise, FL 33322

Voice: [phone]
Fax  : [phone]
BBS  : [phone]
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From: TASSILO STREILY                        Number: 6049
  To: PRESTON VOOSEN                           Date: 05/31/94 10:18p
Subj: CD ROM reading error                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Moinn.. Moinn... Preston!

Anno domini 23.05.94, Preston Voosen wrote 'bout "CD ROM reading error" the
followin'...

PV>> Has anyone heard of a CD ROM drive not reading a disk, and if the
Yes, must be a S*ny... just like mine.

PV>> disk is ejected and re-inserted everything works fine?  My Sony CD
PV>> ROM drive has been doing that lately with a few of my Multimedia
Tell us what model you have. Is it in/external? Is it a CDU31A? or that
double drive set with drawers?

PV>> programs.  Also, I have been wanting to play the audio from the CD
PV>> ROM through the SB, but it must be plugged into the headphones
PV>> jack on the CD ROM drive.  Any ideas on that?  Thanks for the
PV>> help.
see above...

cu these nights...

      Tassi


*-*#[ I'm a cowboy, on a steelhorse I ride... I'm wanted, dead or alive ]#*-*


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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 6050
  To: MARCOS BROLIO                            Date: 05/31/94  7:43p
Subj: Blowout Sale!!!!!!!!!!!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>GC>I have the following cd for sale. shipping is three dallars an
MB>order.

MB>GC>AirCraft Encyclopedia $26.00 Aviation
Large database of aircraft related stuff

MB>GC>Jets And Props $21.00 Aviation
Gifs and Stuff

MB>GC>World of Flight $32.00 Aviation
...More aviation

MB>GC>Hacker Chronicles $27.00 Hobbies
...Text and programs to enhance everyone's hacking capabilities

MB>GC>MegaMovie Guide $42.00 Media
Reviews on movies

MB>GC>Video Movie Guide $30.00 Media
Same as above except this one has more video clips

MB>GC>Forbidden Subjects $42.00 Shareware
Subculture, hacking, all that juicy stuff...

MB>GC>All music Guide $46.00 Sound
Text files and wav file in a description of different culture's music

MB>GC>If interested, please leave reply or send payment to Capital

MB>thanks

You're welcome

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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 6051
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 05/31/94  7:56p
Subj: What about a CD for Lapt                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PV>        Hello my friends.

PV>        I've got an Epson ActionNote 4000 Laptop and I wanna
PV>attach to it a        CD-ROM drive. Well, is it possible?

PV>        Does it exist a CD-ROM drive to be connected on a Laptop
PV>machine?

PV>        Thanks & Regards.

yes, just get an external one that can attach via your parallel port
on the back of your laptop.  The "backback," from compusa or usaflex
is always a good bet.  They usually cost about four hundred bucks.

Hope this info helps you out,

Geoffrey Cylwik
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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 6052
  To: DAVID THOMAS                             Date: 06/01/94  9:23a
Subj: Cd Formats                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

DT> Are PC, MAC, Amiga CD's different formats or are they all the
DT> same?

Well, all I can tell you is that I've sucessfully read ISO 9660
format cd's in both Macs and PCs.

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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 6053
  To: APPLE                                    Date: 06/01/94  9:23a
Subj: Drop                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: JEFF JERNEGAN                          Number: 6054
  To: TONY QUACH                               Date: 05/30/94  3:26p
Subj: Re: CD's For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <May 27 02:33>, Tony Quach of 1:102/771 wrote to Robert Kummer:

 TQ> hi, i was wondering what is "Walk Thrus and Flybys" CD? I have 2
 TQ> adult CD-ROM (xxx gifs) and the After Dark Trilogy disc (4
 TQ> pornos on a disc) for trade. do u happen to have the 7th guest?
 TQ> let me know ASAp! thanks

I have 7th Guest (unopened) and would be interested in a trade. If you have
netmail access, netmail me at 1:343/32.

Jeff Jernegan

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From: BRYAN FULLER                           Number: 6055
  To: SETH KANTER                              Date: 05/31/94 10:24a
Subj: DOOM                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  I assume that I type it exactly the way you showed with the wad name
-> for the xxxx's? Well if it works I'll chant your name as the blood
-> splashes across my 50" screen in surround sound.

I assume that you are using the commercial version of DOOM, otherwise it
won't work... Here's the format

DOOM -FILE xxxxxxxx.WAD

where xxxxxxxx is the filename of the WAD you want to use.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 6056
  To: EARL GREENER @ 910/100                   Date: 05/29/94  9:01p
Subj: Special Offer!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Earl Greener @ 910/100 wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT:

TB>TB>           $8.95   *  Cream of the Crop vol 2  *   $8.95

TB>TB>                Terry Blount, Box 36, BLB, Al. 36509
EG@9>  Is this with shipping or with out?

Shipping is $1.05

EG@9>  If with out please give me the total.

The total is $10.


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From: JOHN HART                              Number: 6057
  To: MARLINA MALONEY                          Date: 05/31/94  5:11p
Subj: $4.75 CD-ROMS!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  > Or you can send me your address, and I'll ship COD.
->
->
->    Oh good! Jumping in on previous conversation. Can you please
->    ship COD to me at:
->
->    c/o Michael Amati, 19 Arlington Pk., Bflo., NY 14201-1318
->
->    You should still have my list of wants, I just answered a
->    message from you yesterday. You said that WAYZATA was still availa
->    so add that to the other 3. Thanx. Let me know when/how shipped
->    and I'll make sure the cash is here for delivery in case I am at w
->
->    Marlina
->
-> ---
OK, I'm going to send them out UPS.  Sorry I wasn't home the other day,
I'm usually not.  I'll give you a call about the details, meaning that
if you read this first, I haven't gotten a hold of you yet!


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From: JOHN HART                              Number: 6058
  To: MARLINA MALONEY                          Date: 05/31/94 11:46p
Subj: Outrageous shipping!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The UPS ground shipping is even worse than I thought.  $6.25 for COD
and $4.49 for frieght.  It cost me $10.74 to ship!  $19 for the 4 CD's
I made the COD out for $29.64 total.  I hope that's not too high.
Would you like a copy of my UPS receipt?


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From: DIANE PENCIL                           Number: 6059
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/01/94 12:59a
Subj: DAYTON HAMVENTION                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  Dayton was Fri-Sat-Sun April 28-30 this year, and like most big
 > Hamfests was
 > ballpark 50% Computer stuff.

ou obviously wern't at the same Dayton Hamvention I was at. Over the past 5
years the amount of computer gear available from reputable dealers at
Hamvention has dwindled significantly. I'd say the percentages at the "big
show" is about 25% computer stuff now.

Diane Pencil

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From: DIANE PENCIL                           Number: 6060
  To: JIM KEHO                                 Date: 06/01/94  1:05a
Subj: hell cab for trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > JK> Microsoft Cinemania '94 w/docs...$28.00 shipped

I'll take it. Will you ship[ COD to my business? If so here is the information.
Diane Pencil
The Computer Recyclery
7089 Taylorsville Rd Suite F
Huber Heights, Ohio 45424
Voice [phone]  BBS [phone]

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From: RICHARD KELLER                         Number: 6061
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 05/30/94  1:26p
Subj: Re: BBS prices                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SH>  Well actually, I post this ad about 2-3 time a week in the
  >  Commercial_ForSale, CDROM, and CDROM_ForSale echoes. You should be
  >able
  >  to find it without too much difficulty.


How often do you post it ?  I thought your only allowed "1"
posting of the same advertisement every week or two weeks.


SH>  Let me know if I can answer any other questions for you


Yes, please answer why you blatantly do not follow the rules here and
send post after post even though rules do not allow it ?

I know the moderators blinder than Stevie Wonder <BG judging by what he
has let go on in here>  but thats still no reason to not follow the
rules. Also, just because Joe R doesn't follow the rules either is no
excuse.



                             Richard Keller

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From: DAVE BEATRICE                          Number: 6062
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  3:42p
Subj: cd-trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Maddog McCree for trade.  Will trade for just about anything except
for adventure type stuff.  If interested, leave message here.


Dave...


... Confuse them all: Nuke the Gay Baby Whales for Jesus.
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From: NEIL PEIMAN                            Number: 6063
  To: CONFIG.EXE                               Date: 05/31/94  5:44a
Subj: SEED MESSAGE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

C> CONFIG.EXE Seed Message
C>
C> --- Alexi/Mail 2.00 (#32)
C>  ■ MkNet ■ Summer Escape BBS - 904-591-4559 - Spitfire 3.4 (1:365/4559)

What are you doing with all these seed messages ?????

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From: ROBERT RENFRO                          Number: 6064
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 06/01/94  9:16a
Subj: New Cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

eddie..
i just got total fantasy and have most of the gifs if you want it...i
also want to trade southern beauties (hot) and xxx extreme if you don't
have them...i'll send you a complete list...
bob

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From: GARY HUFF                              Number: 6065
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/01/94  3:45p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Mike, do you carry the CD-ROM Super Smutware or Super Smutware Vol II?
If so, prices?


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From: CHARLIE STRAKER                        Number: 6066
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 06/01/94  6:38p
Subj: Re: Games for sale or tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  I would like Myst. BTW, where do live?


                         Thanks,
                           Charlie
                              Straker


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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 6067
  To: MICHAEL HAJOVSKY                         Date: 06/01/94  4:23p
Subj: New Source Code Cd                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>     Title:  CD SOURCEBOX               $27.10      |

MH>I have purchased SourceBox1. That CD is all screwed up. What

Hi Michael,
       I have SOURCEBOX 2 on my BBS. The files list was in bad shape
took about an hour of wprk to get it right. My users do like the CD very
much. BUT I'm like you if the files list is bad I just pass it up.

Later
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   | om Miller - greetings from the Swamp Lands of Louisiana
   + SWAMP THANG BBS-24+ CD's Online-USR 21.6-Marrero, LA [phone]
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From: WESLEY K. MILLER                       Number: 6068
  To: NATHAN LEWIS                             Date: 06/01/94  5:34p
Subj: Re: Free CD! Canada Too!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NL>  SH> Shipping/Handling Charges:     Contiguous U.S. - $2.50
NL>  SH> Canada          - $3.00                           ^^^^
NL>                                                        ||||
NL>                                                        ^^^^
NL>                                Big rip off.  I looked on the package you
NL>                                sent me this in, and it only cost you $.52
NL>                                to send it to me.  And I live halfway across
NL>                                the US!!!  (Wisconsin)
NL>                                Not exacly free.
NL>                                See ya!
    So Nathan, How Much DO YOU expect to get paid an Hour to do your Job?
Figuere Most want at least $9.00 and hour and they S/H is 2.50...- .52
shipping leaves $1.98 to pay for the Packaging, Order Processing, Etc...
 THINK ABOUT it, if you want a Free Lunch, then Go with a Major Store and Pay
More for the Rom's then pay less for the Rom's and bitch about nickel and DIme
S/H Charges!
   PS: Profit Group Does give $3.00 off the Normal S/H when you pay by Check
or Money Order!
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From: WESLEY K. MILLER                       Number: 6069
  To: PETER JOHNS                              Date: 06/01/94  5:34p
Subj: Re: hitachi cd rom.                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ> So I have this driver, that I cant use. If by any chance anyone has the
PJ> controller card, with a blown up drive, then maybe we can do a bit of
PJ> business. One is usesless without the other.
PJ>
PJ> Please netmail me any suggests if you got any!
PJ>
PJ> It is a hitachi- I know this is not very much info, but will provide more i
PJ> necessary!
  Is it a AT Bus or SCSI? Exact Model #?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6070
  To: GEORGINA MARTINEZ                        Date: 06/01/94 12:56a
Subj: Software Vault Emerald                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GM:>Does anyone know where to find the new Software Vault Emerald?

We have them in stock at $17.50.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6071
  To: STEPHEN WILLIAMS                         Date: 06/01/94 12:56a
Subj: Adult CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SW:>Can anyone tell me which adult cdrom would be good to run on a BBS?  I am
SW:>getting a few cdroms and I am looking for good cdrom titles.  Thanks for
you
SW:>help.

Steve,

We just got two of the newest "r" rated CDs in.  They are Amateur Models 2
@ $28.20, and Hot Bodies at $29.20.  Both are of the "Playboy" variety, and
come with file listings for BBS use.  Best of all, hardly any sysops have
them online yet!  Give me a call and we can fix you up.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6072
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94 12:56a
Subj: 2 NEW SOFT ADULT CDS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         TWO NEW "SOFT" ADULT CDS

 AMATEUR MODELS 2 - The "sequel" to one of the hottest selling adult CDs
 of 1993 is here, with more beautiful women!  Over 680mb of original,
 tasteful photographs of the "Girl Next Door". BBS-ready.............$28.20
 HOT BODIES - One of the nicest and classiest "softcore" adult ROMs to
 be released in a long while.  Includes original erotic photography of
 stunningly gorgeous ladies, in a wide variety of poses. BBS-ready...$29.20
 ** Special 2-Pak:   Hot Bodies and Amateur Models 2.................$54.00
 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX $7.95

 * SLMR 2.1a * Is it '96 yet???

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6073
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94 12:56a
Subj: WE STOCK WHAT WE SELL!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 At Starvector Software, we have made it our policy since 1987 to only
 advertise titles which we actually have IN STOCK.  There are many CD-ROM
 distributors advertising "1000's of CD's", when in fact they only keep a
 small percentage of that quantity on hand.  This creates delays and
 frustration for you, and is the primary reason we have always elected to
 "stock what we sell".  Like all businesses, items will occasionally sell
 out, but our in-stock rate currently is around 96%, and we're striving to
 improve on that.  Call us!  500+ CD's READY TO SHIP TODAY at great prices.

 Happy CD'ing, .\\ike Shannon * STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS

 * SLMR 2.1a * Used taglines for $ale - 8 bits each. Call 555-FUNY

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From: RAINER VONSALESKI                      Number: 6074
  To: SKIP PERSINGER                           Date: 06/01/94  7:33a
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the comments!

> there are many places to order j-cases and caddies, as well
> as other multi-storage boxes to hold all the CD's that you have.

Are there any good ways to store multiple CDs that aren't in jewel cases?  If
so, can you suggest a place to find them?  All of the local and mail-order
places I know have solutions that either (1) are based on jewel cases, or (2)
involve sliding the bare CD in and out of a "wallet", which I think can scratch
it.

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From: RAINER VONSALESKI                      Number: 6075
  To: RYAN NOVOSIELSKI                         Date: 06/01/94  7:38a
Subj: Flopticals.                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Are Flopticals actual drives (such as floppy disks, not backups) or
> are they just like tapes?

Floptical refers to a 3.5 inch diskette that looks like pretty much like an
ordinary 1.44 mb diskette.  In fact, the Floptical drive will happily read and
write 1.44 mb diskettes.  The Floptical disk has "guide" marks (servo tracks)
prewritten before you buy it, and stores about 21 mb.  It is a read/write
medium, so you can think of it as a big floppy.  However, the media cost is
quite high (around $20 per disk).

Yes, they are "actual" drives, much like a regular floppy drive, or a Bernouli
or Syquest cartridge.  You can use them just like any disk (though they are not
terribly fast).

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From: STEVE HORRIGHS                         Number: 6076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94 11:15p
Subj: Perfect Vision CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       F A N T A S Y   L A N D   C O M P U T E R   S E R V I C E S
  ____________________________________________________________________
 |                                                                    |
 | Only           The Best of Perfect Vision CD Volume I         Only |
 | $49.95        ----------------------------------------      $49.95 |
 |                                                                    |
 |      Perfect Vision Graphics, America's Premiere Image Online      |
 |       Service Presents the First in a Series of High Quality       |
 |                           Image CD-ROMs.                           |
 |                                                                    |
 |        The Best of Perfect Vision, unlike many other "Image        |
 |       Collection" CD's (or those that contain Image Areas),        |
 |       contains only images scanned and processed by Perfect        |
 |       Vision Graphics of Southwestern Ohio.  The CD contains       |
 |     1,934 .GIF format images amounting to 635 Megs of superior     |
 |     quality images free of defects, palette disorders, sizing      |
 |                irregularities, and large BBS Logos.                |
 |                                                                    |
 |    Perfect Vision Graphics received the PC Graphics Excellence     |
 |    Award for 1993 and continues to receive high praise from the    |
 |           online community who know their graphics well.           |
 |                                                                    |
 |      Some Features:                                                |
 |            *  1000's of Superior Quality High Res GIFs             |
 |            *  No BBS Logos or Advertisements on Images             |
 |            *  Fully BBS Ready                                      |
 |            *  All Original Scans from Perfect Vision               |
 | Only                                                          Only |
 | $49.95                                                      $49.95 |
 |____________________________________________________________________|
    *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
                  Shipping & Handling Costs:  $6.95
    *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
                Call, Fax or Mail your order in today!
                       Visa/Mastercard welcome!

       For orders call:                   1-217-566-3723  (24hrs)
       To Fax in an Order or inquiry:     1-217-566-3512  (24hrs)
       Or Place your Order OnLine:        1-513-233-7993  (24hrs)

       To mail your order in, send checks or money orders to:

                   Fantasy Land Computer Services
                         Post Office Box 320
                    Williamsville, IL 62693-0320
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6077
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  5:29a
Subj: !659 Cd's $25 or less!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-DISC SALE...
OS/2 Hobbes $13.05                     $5.00 FedEx shipping (domestic)
Shareware Studio 4 $16.00              $5.00 C.O.D.'s WELCOME!
NightOwl 12 $22.00, Cream of the Crop 3 $22,
>659 CD-ROM titles $25.00 or less!  To order discs or catalog contact:
>FilReq: CDLIST.zip or majic word CONFIG for over 2,200 CD-Titles
Joe Rinehart, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240.0001, or
voice:216.296.4446, voice:216.296.9831, DATA/FAX: [phone] - 24hrs
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE 1.800.6.CONFIG=1800.626.6344 24HRS

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6078
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  5:29a
Subj: $22.00 Cream of the crop                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       >>>>>>>>>>>"CREAM OF THE CROP III" only $22.00<<<<<<<<<<
     You've been reading about it & now's your chance to get it!
     The hottest selling shareware CD-ROM title available.  We've
never had a return on previous versions, as it is guaranteed to be
compatible for your system.  SATISFACTION 100% GUARANTEED!
IN-STOCK & SHIPPING DAILY around 5:00pm EST!
IMMEDIATE SHIPPING via FedEX Economy $5.00, Next day $7.00, COD$5.00
To order contact: Joe, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, OH 44240
Internet: [e-mail], Fido: 1:157/479, BBS: 216.296.2244, or our
>NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE: 1-800-6CONFIG (1.800.626.6344)

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6079
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  5:29a
Subj: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:  2@2659
Satisfaction guaranteed....
            ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)  24HOURS 7DAYS

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From: ANDREW MCCALLISTER                     Number: 6080
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94 11:23a
Subj: nec triple speed                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I  know the Toshiba 3401 is supported by the Pro Audio Spectrum's 16 sound
card's SCSI interface but is the Nec triple speed supported?
Thanks

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From: DAMON RAND                             Number: 6081
  To: TIMOTHY ROY                              Date: 05/28/94  1:45p
Subj: Re: Enough already                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Via SLMAIL v3.5C  (#1269)
 >On Wednesday May 18 1994 16:15, Grant Wood wrote to Tim Helton:
 >
 > LS>> I'm sure you probably read more messages on this echo than
 > LS>> anybody else, so I'm positive you've seen the onslaught of
 > LS>> for-sale message on this echo area.  When my BBS first started
 > LS>> receiving this echo, there was only one or two vendors posting
 > LS>> ads to this area.  Lately, it seems as if everyone and their
 > LS>> mother is posting commercial advertisements to this echo.
 > LS>> Personally, I'm sick of it.  I'm not alone either.
 >
 >>> ****Much deleted****<
 >
 > GW=> I wholeheartedly second this grievance!
 >
 >     I for one enjoy the ads.  I've purchased The Seventh Guest for less
 >than half its retail price here.  I'd probably drop the echo if the ads
 >were removed.

I wholeheartedly second this comment. If people don't want to read an
advertisement they can skip passed it easily enough. There are quite a few
people like me who read this group to find out where to get goods deals on
CD's. The large number of advertisers simply means more price
competitiveness as far as I can see.

Cheers
Damon Rand

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From: ED KISH                                Number: 6082
  To: JIM RICCIO                               Date: 06/01/94  7:40a
Subj: 14.4 USRobotics /Spo                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jim Riccio to All <=-

 JR> USRobotics /Sportster modem?  I paid $145 for it. Was that good. O and

Anything under $150 is okay, but if you'd take the time and shop around
you could have gotton a better deal.


... Everybody's playing the game Riccio, but nobody's rules are the same.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 6083
  To: JONATHAN BLANK                           Date: 05/31/94  4:39a
Subj: Re: Help! I need free cd-               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jonathan Blank to All <=-

 JB> I just got my new CD-ROM installed and I am even more addicted
 JB> than I had hoped.  I even enjoy the "promotional" disks such as
 JB> DiscPatch, On Hand, etc.  Does anyone know where I can get some free
 JB> "promotion-type" CD-ROMs?  I would be very grateful...

Well, you can find "free-except-for-shipping" discs in a few places.  Check
the back pages of the PC magazines.  Also, look for a message from Scott
Huffman...Profit Press is offering their demo disc...lots of shareware...
for $2.00.  I've had it for quite awhile, and it's absolutely the best $2
you'll ever spend on a CD-ROM!

I've seen an ad (here or on CD-forsale) for Cream of the Crop 3 (the prior
version) at $8.95.  It was well-reviewed but I don't have it so can't
confirm, but $9 is a pretty good price for a disc.



... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: STEFAN ADLER                           Number: 6084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  6:50p
Subj: NightOwl 12...                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can someone tell me where to buy the LATEST Night Owl in Scandinavia,
or even in Sweden? Isn't the latest number 12? I've only seen 11 announced.
Stefan

... Windows NT: Only 16 megs needed to play Minesweeper!
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From:                                        Number: 6085
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  5:48p
Subj: Cd-Roms For Rent!!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATTENTION CD-ROM OWNERS(AND FUTURE CD-ROM OWNERS.):

     I JUST FOUND OUT THAT STOP AND SHOP IN NEWTOWN, CT OFFERS CD-ROMS FOR RENT
IN THE VIDEO DEPARTMENT.  IT COSTS $3.25($3.45 AFTER TAX) & YOU GET TO KEEP IT
FOR 2 NIGHTS.  THEY OFFER 50 TITLE WITH MORE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
     I THINK RENTING CD IS GREAT, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIKE
IT BEFORE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY BUYING IT.
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From: SAM CLARK                              Number: 6086
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 06/01/94  6:13p
Subj: Adult CD's $12.95 & UP!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  *=-=-=* Adult CDROM Discs! *=-=*  XXX  *=-=* The Profit Group

Scott,
        I recently ordered 2 cd's from your company.. Ordered them Ground
Transportation to save a little on the cost of delivery..
        Couldn't be happier with the quality of the cd's or the cost.. For 31
bucks I got the T&A 2 the Maxx, The best of Shareware, and your cdrom benchmark
disc which has a suprising amount of shareware on it for my users.. The part
that impressed me the most was the fact that I ordered them at 2:00 pm in the
afternoon on a Thursday and received them before lunch the next day...
        Again, I couldn't be happier. Keep up the good work and you can expect
to see more of my business in the future..

                            Sam Clark
                            Sysop - Gone Fishin' BBS
                            Clarksville, TN

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6087
  To: JIM KEHO                                 Date: 06/01/94  7:36p
Subj: Cinemania '94                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim,
 Sure just let me know if the deals blow over?

              Thanks,
                   Sam Figueroa

Got any other discs to trade?

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6088
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  7:49p
Subj: Myst and Rebel Assault!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have

    Myst with Box and Manuals

         And
    Rebel Assault with Box and Manuals

    For Trade or SALE, Preferably sale, I would like $35 each plus
shipping, but am willing to let RA go a little cheaper or trade easier!

              Make me some deals buds

                                  Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94 11:02p
Subj: Myst and Rebel Assault                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well I now want $50 buck for both Myst and Rebel Assault or $25 each!
Would like to sell both of them to one person but if I can get 2 deals
than that will be ok, I need the $50 fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buyer must prepay and pay shipping
or call me at:

Sam's Software
[phone]

to work out a deal

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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6090
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  4:22p
Subj: myst                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                          HELP ME!!!!
                          HELP ME!!!!
                          HELP ME!!!


Hullo.  I'm stuck in gear world.  I can't turn the tower to any but two places.
 I have learned that this is actually a technical problem rather than a game
problem, so I was wondering ig someone could tell me the four symbols that you
need to enter into the gear device to make the book appear.  Thanks for the
help.


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From: SEAN BEGGS                             Number: 6091
  To: IAN DICKSON                              Date: 05/31/94 10:38a
Subj: Re: Phillips 206                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KM> Kevin
 ID> Well that couldn't be the problem here as I Tried it without the screws
 ID> But I am still fighting for a replacement....
 ID> I bought it on Dec 26 and It stopped working on April 13,1994
 ID> I finally got a replacement on May 10 and It stopped
 ID> working the same day..
 ID> I cannot even find an Address to send a letter to PHILIPS to
 ID> tell them how unhappy I am with their Product ..

Man, that sucks!  Here is a number I had along with a whole slough of other
companies.  Hopefully, this one will be of some use to you:

From the Phillips BBS at 1-719-593-4081.

It's only a BBS, but that will get you further than you've got so far, I
suppose!  Good luck!



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From: KEVIN HAMANN                           Number: 6092
  To: ROBERT MINVIELLE                         Date: 05/30/94  5:25a
Subj: Re: doom                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Robert Minvielle to Gary Hilbert <=-

 RM> Do you know where I could freq a driver for OS/2 for a NEC CDR-55JD?
 RM> (Im figurin' others will read this... ;-}

 Depends...if it's like the NEC CDR-25BJ and it's hooked to a normal
 SCSI adapter the standard NEC driver ought to work.  If it's hooked
 to a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 or another of Mediavision's adapter/sound
 cards, you need to the the driver for the PAS16 from Mediavision
 (1-510-770-0527 or 0968) or a fine OS/2 board near you.  If it's
 hooked to a SB16 or one of the other SB compatibles that have SCSI
 Creative should have the drivers on their BBS or on the IBM BBS
 (1-919-517-0001 the last I checked).  Sorry I don't know the FREQ
 addresses.  I do know Mediavision and IBM's boards are just the
 price of a phone call though.

 hope that helps.

 Kevin
    Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: MIKE MULLIGAN                          Number: 6093
  To: PATRICK FITZGERALD                       Date: 06/02/94 12:12a
Subj: Us Moves To Censor Games                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PF>Hi all,
  >Can anyone in the U.S.A. tell me what is the latest in regards to
  >moves by the U.S. Congress & Federal Attorney to censor computer
  >games ?  Here in Australia the situation is looking pretty grim
  >for the games market, at the moment.  Our government is about to
  >legislate to crackdown on computer games very heavily soon !

Why are they trying to censor as you say computer games?  What is the
reason for it?


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From: CHERYL SWIFT                           Number: 6094
  To: ROBERT HARE                              Date: 05/31/94 10:32p
Subj: Re: CD ROM reading error                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm having the same problems.  I bought a new cd and my Mitsumi WON'T read it,
although it reads all my other CDs.  The CD isn't bad. . .other people have
been able to read it, and I REALLY want to get the bugs out so I can use the
new CD!  I've used the commercial pressurized air, and cleaned the CD but so
far I still can't read it.  We've had the Mitsumi about 9 months.  Lately the
CD games have been running really sluggish, and I'm wondering if the drive is
going bad.  Any ideas?  (I WILL try cleaning the lens.)

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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 6095
  To: ADAM BRIAND                              Date: 06/01/94  8:22a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JK>Mad Dog McCree...w/docs..$22.00 includes shipping!
AB>I'll take Mad Dog. How does $25.00 including shipping to Canada AB>sound?

Adam, Since I just heard back from the other interested party that doesn't want
it, You're the next!  I think I can ship it to Canada for $25.00.. Should be
able to!  Please send $25.00 (US funds) to:
Jim Keho
7810 W. Peoria #52
Peoria, AZ. 85345-1026
I'll hold it until I hear back from you.. I'll send it as soon as your money
arrives.. Thanks!


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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 6096
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  1:02a
Subj: CD ROM PC Disk Production               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in locating sources for bulk creation of a PC based CD disk.
Please send information to:
Marlina Maloney c/o Michael Amati, 19 Arlington Pk., Bflo., NY 14201-1318

or voice at 716-881-6430 (EST-Bflo, NY)

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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 6097
  To: BILL KENDALL                             Date: 06/01/94 11:08a
Subj: Re: Hell cab for trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bill, I see that you trading Hell Cab..... I have the following if any sound
good to you,    Shareware Studio IV  (released March 94)
                Stellar 7
                Corel Art Show 4
                Macromedia
                Multi-Media Pack (Win)
  PC-Sig 10th edition,  I'll this one that in with any of the above

 All of the above are CD's

The following is Software:

New Printshop
New Printshop Companion
Both with All Manuals and Original Boxes

If anything looks good, Give me a Call @ [phone]
                                or FAX @ [phone]

Thanks,
         CJ

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From: DAVID WELLS                            Number: 6098
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  6:33p
Subj: Microsoft Multimedia                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have just installed and rom drive in may computer. Its is a 486dx with an
ati graphics ultra pro. The sound board is a Sound Blaster pro 8 bit. All the
tests off this dick work ok like vidtest etc also other disk are ok but when i
run hyperguide off this disk and ask for the  play feature film on a subject
after about minute or less the voice starts to break up. Have tired disabling
my cash etc for this drive no help. All other disk  like nautillis cd . And
the Animals for the san diego zoo work fine. Any suggestion would be
appericate on this.

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From: SKIP PERSINGER                         Number: 6099
  To: DENNIS LIEBURN                           Date: 05/30/94  4:25p
Subj: Dak (Sony) Cd-units                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DL>I heard Skip Persinger talking about DAK (Sony) CD-UNITS

DL>What do you consider a lot of money?  I've got one here gathering
   dust.
Dennis: Drop me your voice line and I'll give you a call about your SONY
(DAK) Drive. I know they aren't worth much these days but they are worth
a little bit more to me since I already have a couple of them now. If
you don't want to leave your voice line for me here is mine. Skip
Persinger 614-369-8446, Delaware County BBS 614-363-4695.
As I said, I am interested in another one for our BBS and would like to
talk to you about it. Thanks for the reply, I'll be looking for your
reply or etc. about the CD unit.
Skip...

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From: JAMES DOMENGEAUX                       Number: 6100
  To: TIM VAY                                  Date: 05/30/94  2:01p
Subj: Cd's For Sale Or Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TV> -> Can you give me more info on these two. What edition is the
TV> Bookshelf

TV> Microsoft bookshelf is about 199.00 and has alot of great
TV> information in it. almost a must have. 25.00 will get it.

Okay but what year is it? (edition)?


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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 6101
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 06/01/94 11:00a
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>May I suggest something simpler to you both? Try the slip cases
JC>for the 5.25 inch discs. They are very effective, protective,
JC>convenient and should cost you no more than a question to someone
JC>who uses that size disk. Cheers!
JC>---
JC> * DeLuxe* 1.12 #4703 *
JC>--- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j'
JC> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario  (1:229/15)

great idea.

Thanks,

Geoffrey Cylwik
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From: DON RITTER                             Number: 6102
  To: CHERYL SWIFT                             Date: 05/31/94  3:53p
Subj: CD-Rom that won't read a certain disk   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Cheryl I have a Mitsumi single speed and there is one disk that I have the same
problem on.  There was only one way I could run it and when I say this, the
whole board will probably have something to say about the procedure.  The CDrom
in question is my Hobbes OS/2 shareware disk.  If I load it in the normal way,
the drive light comes on and stays on.  What I have to do is open up the drawer
and slide the reading mechanism to the outer edge.  When I do this, the CD
works well.  Everytime I change to this CD I have to do this procedure.  Before
you do this, load in the CD in question watch the light on the front cover.
Wheyou close the drawer watch the light.  If it comes on for a couple of
seconds and then goes out and comes back on again in a few seconds and remains
on, do the above procedure and it should work fine.  This is only a suggestion
and only seems to work on a Mitsumi single speed CDrom with the pull-out drive
that you lift on the cover to drop your CD in.  The mechanism (black) slides
very easily and if you see it on the inner edge, slide it out to try the CD.
good luck.

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6103
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 05/31/94 11:58a
Subj: 6 Cd's Just $49.00!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Gordon!

GP>SH| *=-=-=*  The Profit Group *=-=*   New Product Update *=-=-=*
GP>SH| THE BEST OF SHAREWARE - 598 MegaBytes <-------------< Any One
GP>SH| THE BEST OF WINDOWSWARE - 583 MegaBytes <-----------<   For
GP>SH| THE BEST OF BIZZNESSWARE - 465 MegaBytes <----------< $12.95!
GP>SH| THE BEST OF SWIMSUITS - 407 MegaBytes <-------------< All Six
GP>SH| THE BEST OF PC GAMES - 504 MegaBytes <--------------<   For
GP>SH| THE BEST OF SIGHTS AND SOUNDS - 609 MegaBytes <-----< $49.00!!

GP>Sounds like the "2 The Maxx" 6-disc set I bought recently (same six
GP>discs... Shareware, WindowsWare, Sights & Sounds, BusinessWare,
GP>SwimSuits, PC Games).

 Actually, it is! The "2 The Maxx" 6-Pack is the wholesale product
 and the "Best Of" set is retail. Just curious, where did you pick
 up your 2 The Maxx 6-Pack from?

GP>If so, I really like the set, and the neat
GP>six-disc jewelbox mine came in, but one of the holders (the one just
GP>inside the front cover) doesn't retain the disc, so it slides around
GP>loose inside.  Is there any way I can get a replacement six-disc
GP>jewelbox like that one?

 Hmmm, give a call to our customer service number and explain your
 situation to who ever picks up the line. They should be able to help
 you out. If not, give me another holler here.

 Take Care,

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6104
  To: JIM SMITH                                Date: 05/31/94 12:33p
Subj: Cd-rom For A Bbs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Jim!

JS>I need to know what is the best shareware CD-ROM for a
JS>PCBoard BBS.  I need all
JS>around balance of programs.  Something that will suit many of my users.
JS>You hear all the hype on the different CD-ROMS and I just don't know which t
JS>choose.

 There are several CD's out now that probably fit the bill, but let
 me make a recommendation to you. We just released our new three
 disc set (Mega-TriPack 3) as of monday of this week. The three
 CD's that comprise this set are:

              Mega CDROM 4   - General ShareWare
              Mega Windows 3 - Windows oriented ShareWare
              Mega Games 2   - Games, Games and more Games

 The CD's go for $29.00 each, or you can get All three for $59.00!
 On top of that, if you choose to place your order with us, we will
 give you our new CDROM Drive BenchMark and Test disc at no charge.
 If your interested give us a call at 1-800-843-7990.

 Regards,

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6105
  To: JONATHAN BLANK                           Date: 05/31/94 12:38p
Subj: Help! I need free cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Jonathan!

JB>All-
JB>    I just got my new CD-ROM installed and I am even more addicted than
JB>I had hoped.  I even enjoy the "promotional" disks such as DiscPatch, On
JB>Hand, etc.  Does anyone know where I can get some free "promotion-type"
JB>CD-ROMs?  I would be very grateful...

 See my advertisement for a Free CDROM disc in both this echo as well
 as the CDROM_FORSALE echo and COMMERCIAL_FORSALE echo.

JB>REWARD:

 Sell me Busty Babes v1. v.1 for $10.00, that would be reward enough :).

 Take Care,

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6106
  To: ERNEST ENNS                              Date: 05/31/94  3:20p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Ernest!

EE> >  *=-=-=* The Profit Group *=-=*  BBS Ready *=-=*
EE> >   Shipping Costs (Contiguous U.S.) 2-Day $6.00  OverNight $15.00
EE> >   Orders:1-800-843-7990  Fax:[phone]  Info.:1-602-770-0000
EE> >    The Profit Group - 824 E. FT. Lowell Road - Tucson, AZ. 85719

EE> Do you guys have a catalog? Do you ship to Canada?

 Well we really don't have a catalog per se Ernest, but we do have a
 flyer of our products with the current pricing. We only sell CD's
 that we publish ourselves, so we're only looking at 27 CDROM discs.
 I advertise all our complete product line in this echo as well as
 the Commercial_Forsale and CDROM_ForSale echos. The best way to get
 our newest flyer is to take advantage of our Free CDROM Disc offer.
 In the past it had been exclusively available in the contiguous
 United States, but we are now offering the CD to Canada Too!
 I say it's the best way because if you simply want to get onto our
 mailing list, you may have to wait a few months to get it, where as if
 you opt. for the Free CD, the flyer goes out with the CD.

 So to answer your second question, yes we do ship to Canada.

 Please let me know if I can answer any other questions for you Ernest.

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6107
  To: STEVE ANTES                              Date: 05/31/94  3:35p
Subj: Re: Free CD!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Steve!

SA> SH> *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*  FREE CDROM DISC OFFER  *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
SA> SH> Do Not Call Our 1-800 number for this offer! This offer is ONLY
SA> SH> valid in the Contiguous United States And Canada! Yes, Canada too!
SA> SH> Shipping/Handling Charges:     Contiguous U.S. - $2.50

SA> Uh-oh.  Am I excluded specifically?  I'm a GI stationed in Germany, but
SA> I have an APO address.  NY, ya know.

  Not at all, APO is just like being here, but without the food, fun
  and females :).

SA> Before I go overboard, I ordered from Profit a few months ago. Quite
SA> happy with what I got.  Snagged last years discs at bargain basement
SA>prices. They came with the Mega-Demo disc.  Not the freebie we're
SA>talking about is it?

  Yes, you now have the opportunity to be the proud owner of two
  copies of MegaDemo 2. Tell you what though Steve, if you call and
  order something else from us we have a new free cd that we're giving
  away going by the name of CD-STONE. It has the same type of CDROM
  Drive BenchMark and Test utilities as MegaDemo, but they have been
  upgraded to what we consider to be a commercial level software
  product. It will now read audio tracks as data and capture this
  information to Windows .WAV files. Yes, you can now have Guns and
  Roses blaring from your computer too!

SA> Lemme hear at [e-mail], please.  Or put it
SA>here, if you REALLY wanna.  I heard there was another GI over
SA>here somewhere...

  Well kinda like I really have to. And yea, isn't't his name Kilroy?

  Take Care Steve,

  If I can answer any other questions, gimme a holler.

  Scott Huffman
  The Profit Group

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6108
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  8:28p
Subj: Software Vault Emerald                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  B R A N D   N E W   R E L E A S E
              S O F T W A R E  V A U L T " E M E R A L D"
                        (In Stock NOW !!)
   Over 607 Megs - 4,287 Files - ALL FILES DATED "1994" - No Dupes
 Virus Checked - BBS Safe - Files.bbs Support For Several BBS Systems
  5% Duplication to Night Owl 12 - New Online Menu System and more !
                          Price - $18.00
Special Bundle - Cream Of The Crop II+III & Software Vault Emerald - $45.00
                         Dealers  Welcome
  ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6109
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  8:28p
Subj: Thank you for uploading POST!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ╒═══════════════════[  N I G H T  O W L  V 12.0  ]═══════════════════════╕
 │ All New Files - 65% 1994 Release  - Over 600 + Megs - Over 5,000 Files │
 │ Virus Checked ( True !!)  Dupe Checked ( True !!)  BBS Safe ( True !!) │
 │ Multipul Line Discriptions - New Online Viewer - Fewer Directories     │
 │                                                                        │
 │    Shipping Now !!        Price - $22.00        Shipping Now !!        │
 │                     Dealer Pricing Available !!                        │
 │SPECIAL PKG Available - Night Owl v12.0 + Pier 4 + Shareware Online 3 + │
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From: FROM:BORIS OSADCIW                     Number: 6110
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  8:28p
Subj: Cream Of The Crop 3                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ╒════════════════]    R E L E A S E    N O T I C E    [═════════════════╕
 │   600+Megs             Cream Of The Crop III            600+Megs      │
 │               ** The Hottest CD For Any BBS System **                 │
 │   * All New Files  * No Dupes To Version 2 * Over 2968 + Files        │
 │* 14% Dup To N12 * 15% Dup To PIER4   *10% Dup To SHAREWARE ONLINE 3   │
 │* Full BBS Ready * Super New File Converter To ANY BBS Format * & More │
 │* DEALERS WELCOME !!        PRICE - $22.00        DEALERS WELCOME !!   │
 │* File FREQ  CREAM3.ZIP 1:157/46 - Pick A Bundle SPECIAL - CALL NOW !! │
 │      Sorry - No Questions will be answered on the 800 service !       │
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6111
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  8:28p
Subj: Hot Titles                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

═════════════════] T H I S  M O N T H S  H O T   C D  [═════════════════════

Cream Of The Crop 3 - $22. Sight's & Sounds    - $25. Soft Tool Chest- $25.
Night Owl 12        - $22. So-Much-Windows/OS2 - $18. Hot Bodies     - $30.
Pier 4              - $25. So-Much-Shareware 4 - $18. Women On Wheels- $25.
Shareware Online 3  - $25. Software Vault Plat - $16. Games 94       - $25.
Shareware Studio 4  - $18. Software Vault Emer - $19. Arsenal Files  - $22.
  (Exclusive - For C.C.I Customers ONLY - "EXPRESSWARE" is coming !!)
      (Call us at 216-225-3263 for details - You'll Love it !! )
    ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  FAX [phone]  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6112
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  8:28p
Subj: Hot System Price                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             S P E C I A L   C D R O M    P U R C H A S E

 Brand NEW - Complete Philips Cdrom System - Internal Unit - Comes
 With Controller, Cable, Audio Cable, Software Drivers, Manual
 and Warranty. This is a Caddless System, that offers 380ms access
 time and 150kps transfer rate - MPC compliant - Plays Audio CD's
 without the need of installing any software.  Propreitary System
                     Price - $95.00 + Shipping

ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX [phone]

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 6113
  To: EBEN HOLIDAY                             Date: 06/01/94  6:04a
Subj: Receipt?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Eben, I mailed out a MO to you on 05/26/94.
Has it arrived yet? If so, could you let me know when you
shipped or are shipping? Thanx.  Marlina
716-881-6430 (EST-Bflo, NY) available 5 PM - 1 AM

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From: NORAYR HAJIAN                          Number: 6114
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 05/31/94  9:35p
Subj: The Bible Library                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>What all is on the CD? Is it worth the time to take learning about it?
MW>Where did you get it?
MW>Thanks,
MW>Mark

It has 9 bible versions and 20 reference works.  I'll get the details
out when I dig it all up.

I paid $29 US Funds plus $4 shipping from Tom Tech.  If you want it,
I'll send it to you for the same price, since I doubt I'll use it much.
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From: STEVE MARTINDALE                       Number: 6115
  To: PAUL LIDERMAN                            Date: 06/01/94  3:23a
Subj: CD Catologues                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I don't have much to trade but I am intrested in Mad Dog Mcree.  I can give
CArmen Sandiego Deluxe or The Animals or Just Grandma and Me plus and some
cash.
Let me know what you think is fair.

Steve Martindale

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From: STEVE MARTINDALE                       Number: 6116
  To: ZACH HEITLING                            Date: 06/01/94  3:29a
Subj: HELP!                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I assume that you are using a single speed drive.  What is hapeening is that
the computer is dropping sound and images to compensate for the slow speed of
your drive.  You night want to try a cashing program (which will help a little
bit but not much <that should be spelt caching>) Next you can make a boot disk
getting rid of any TSR's that the game doesn't use. DON'T buy a new drive since
a 4x speed is arriving soon for $400 bucks.  Hope that helps

Steve Martindale

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From: STEVE MARTINDALE                       Number: 6117
  To: JONATHAN BLANK                           Date: 06/01/94  3:40a
Subj: Help! I need free cd-roms               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Heydon't we all need free Cd's.    Here is a new one that just crossed my desk.
 It is from CD Rama and costs nothing to the first 10,000 callers aftrer that
it only costs 4.95 for that shipping and handling fee.  To order just call
1-800-851-7770. This offer is only valid in the Continetal U.S. That really
ticks me off since I live up in the Great White North.  I think that is
someones revenge for US taking the World Series twice in a row (third times a
charm <grin>.)  Let me know how you do or if you have any other free info to
share.

Steve Martindale

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From: BILLY MULLINS                          Number: 6118
  To: RON LOTTERMANN                           Date: 06/01/94  2:21p
Subj: Loom                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well Thanks Ron But how do you get the untwist spell I can't or don't
have the notes to do the untwist spell. and other help, or textfiles
on this matter are much appreciated...... Thanks....

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From: MARK THOMAS                            Number: 6119
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 05/31/94  5:42a
Subj: Comment  Trying To Get The Tabs System To Work..  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Every time I call the tabs Computer the automated voice comes      Then I put
in the BBS phone # [phone] and she replies youre time is expired call back and
try again and I did but the same thing happen so I wonder if I'am using the
wrong # or the system has failed same how thanks for youre help.

                             Mark W Thomas

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From: CHRIS MAJERE                           Number: 6120
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 05/31/94  8:43a
Subj: Lord                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Scott,
that game legend is doing  some strange things. It is making me
hit for negative damage! What is wrong? I die daily because of
this glitch. Please help me.
                         Thanks,

                         Chris Majere

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From: ROB ODOM                               Number: 6121
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 05/31/94  1:04p
Subj: Comment                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey, I just found yer number on the houston bbs list and
decided to give ya a call. How do I go about being validated for
the adult sections. I'm interested in this bbs and would like to
become a full fledged member. Do I need to send my drivers
license photocopy? O r what do I need to do? Do ya take
donations? If ya need a reference you can call the inner sphere
at 893-0923. Let me know? Thanks a lot.

Rob Odom
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From: RAY CHANG                              Number: 6122
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 05/31/94  1:05p
Subj: Access                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello.  I was wondering whether I would get adult access when I join the board.
 I'm currently 17 and on 7/25, I'll be 18.  If I register now, I'll be 18
during my subscription, and would that entitle me to have adult access?  Also,
are you planning on to add tradewar 2002 to the online game section any time
soon?
                                   Sincerely,
`                                         Ray Chang

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From: A.J. FREYSTEINSON                      Number: 6123
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 05/31/94  1:41p
Subj: Protocal                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

do you only have one protokal?
if not how do i change it



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From: BAMBI ALDERSON                         Number: 6124
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 05/31/94  5:05p
Subj: Validation                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
     I finally got validated using the call back, I had to take
down one of my bbs lines and used it to call back with.  I thank
you for your effort though in trying to get ahold of me.
                    -=Trixi Racer=-



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From: MAX CAMPOS                             Number: 6125
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  7:14p
Subj: Audio CD Player                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know of a good player for audio CDs?

I'd like something that's a TSR, I'm getting tired of shelling and running QCD
(I've got an Omni with a SB Pro).  Programability, and recognizing CDs are
pluses...

Anyone know of a good one?

If possible, supply an ftp site, or a freq address is just as good.  Thanks.

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From: JAMES WILLIAMS                         Number: 6126
  To: JONO GREENE                              Date: 05/29/94  3:40p
Subj: CAPITAL CDs HAS A SALE!!                Refer: NONE
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From: BOB KNOWLES                            Number: 6127
  To: CRAIG HUXLEY                             Date: 05/29/94 10:30p
Subj: Re: Jutland CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Craig Huxley to Bob Knowles <=-

 CH> Hello Bob!

Re Jutland CD

 CH> Bob you will need to run the VPRMODE utility.  The VESA bios
 CH> extensions are not automatically loaded as per cirrus logic cards.
 CH> The parameters are VPRMODE VESA to load; VPRMODE -u to unload.

Whoopee, Yes it now works!!!!!! Thanks a million, it now run great with
super VGA graphics and awesome sound track. I have only played it a
little, but it appears to have great potential - it actually simulates
real battles, like the Falkland War... If you are thinking of buying this
I have seen it at a dealer here in Sydney, in a 3 pack with INCA which
is the best CD-ROM games I seen this far, and Strike Eagle III all for
79.00 dollars.. I will try the VPRMODE command with a couple of other
games that I have problems with and see how I go.. Thanks for your help.

   With many thanks

   Bob




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From: ERNIE SUGRUE                           Number: 6128
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/94  9:32p
Subj: Cd Titles!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SoftwareVAULT Emerald **NEW** [all '94 files].....................$43
Multimedia Audio Collection [superb collection of progs & files]..$55
CICA Windows 4/94 2 CD Set [InfoMagic]............................$35
Simtel 3/94 2 CD Set [InfoMagic]..................................$35
Sam and Max Hit the Road..........................................$72

The following titles now.. $48 each:
Mad Dog McCree        Jutland            Iron Helix
3D Dinosaurs          Gabriel Knight     The Journeyman Project

** Pacific Beach Software ** Order by Credit Card: 008 634 992
Fax: [phone]  MC/VI/BC OK!. Shipping is $7-$10 per order.
Contact us for out 1200 CD listing... Dealer Enq Welcome.
___
 X RM 1.1  X Eval Day 14 X ... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can
come up

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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 6129
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94 11:58p
Subj: June CD Sale!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Aust. Phone Disc Sept/93..........$25  Only 5 left
Aust. Phone Disc 94 (Win or DOS)..$55  May pressing, NOT the DUD April
7th Guest.........................$45
Day of the Tentacle...............$45
Mad Dog McCree....................$45
Gabriel Night.....................$45
Iron Helix........................$45
F15 Strike Eagle..................$39

Pay by credit card, cheque, etc.

AESTHETIC SOFTWARE,  PO BOX 459, GOSFORD NSW 2250, AUSTRALIA
PH/FAX: [phone],  BBS: (043) 23-9076

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From: KEVIN CASSIDY                          Number: 6130
  To: RICHARD CUSHNIE                          Date: 05/30/94  8:53p
Subj: CD ROM SOFTWARE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for your response - I am about to purchase Access through work, so I
will be able to have a closer look at the product. As yet I haven't used
Access.

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From: MATTHEW FREI                           Number: 6131
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  1:35a
Subj: Budgetware CDROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Does anyone have any opinion on the Budgetware CDROM advertised
    in the computer mags that comes from NSW, a monthly CD that is
    supposed to be up to date, new shareware etc..Has anyone had any
    experience with this service-where you can be monthly sent a CD
    via years subscripiton or buy individual ones on a month to month basis. It
    seems to me a good idea, but does anyone know is it perhaps a
    rip off or not as good as it sounds?

... Thanks in advance..Thanks in advance...Thanks in advance...Thanks in a
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From: STEPHEN HARRINGTON                     Number: 6132
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  2:53p
Subj: Newer Panasonic 562b Drivers?           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm running a Panasonic CR-562B hooked up to my original old
SoundBlaster Pro, and am wondering what the most recent drivers are that
work best with this combination.

I can run quite happily with v4.11 of SBCD.SYS from Creative, but any of
their drivers after that won't recognise my drive... I note that they are
up to v4.17 or so now... I gather this is deliberate on their part to
punish me for not buying an (overpriced) CR-563 drive off them.

I can also run using CDMKE43.SYS OK, which is actually v4.03, although this
driver seems rather old and has the odd problem.

So... is there a later driver that will work for me incorporating fixes
etc.. and if so where can I download it please. Is there anywhere on
Compuserve perhaps?

Any help and or suggestions greatfully received.

Stephen Harrington

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From: LEONARD CHAN                           Number: 6133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  9:10p
Subj: CDs for sale [Australian]               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

New CDs for sale:
                                                Australian Dollars
 1. Hobbes OS/2 Mar 1994                                $ 24
    (includes OS/2 2.1 Service Pack installable from CD)
 2. Hobbes OS/2 Nov 1993                                $ 18
    (with 15MB of Postscript fonts missing from Mar 1994 release!)
 3. Internet Info Dec 1993                              $ 29
    (FAQs, Standards doc, etc)
 4. King's Quest VI with guidebook                      $ 35
 5. Grolier MPC Encyc v6 '94 + Macmillan Child Dict     $ 80

If interested, please netmail me.

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From: JAMES HO                               Number: 6134
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94 11:19a
Subj: CD-ROM cache                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I'm using SmartDrv as my caching for my CD-ROM, but rcently,
I've heard that SpeedWay is much better.  I think it is Norton's
prog.  Can anyone suggest if it is any good?  If not, what is
better?

    james ho

... Fun, fun, fun, 'til her daddy takes her Blue Wave away!
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From: JAMES HO                               Number: 6135
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94 11:32a
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Anyone knows any good shareware CD?  Other than Night Owl?

    james

... But soft, what light through yonder tagline breaks?
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From: STEVE CHAPMAN                          Number: 6136
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 05/31/94 11:07a
Subj: Catalogue Please                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Steve.
Could you send a Catalogue to :
Jim McDermott
6 Avalon St
Birrong 2143
Tar Muchly Steve Chapman



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From: MATTHEW WRIGHT                         Number: 6137
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/25/94  8:25p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya,A friend of mine bought 7th Guest,and he's having real problems getting
it to run. What happens is when we try and run it it takes an absoloutly
enormous bite out of conventional mem, and then the music starts playing but
no picture just dos, we think it may be the vga card,but if anyone has any
ideas I would be most greatful. q:-)
Matt


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From: ANDREW BARFOOT                         Number: 6138
  To: PETER LUDE                               Date: 05/30/94  8:52a
Subj: CD-ROM READERS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes Peter, the bundle is the "five foot ten pack" you have probably seen
advertised on these echo's.

I hope that helps...

Andrew L. BARFOOT


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From: DANIEL TSUI                            Number: 6139
  To: ALL AUSTRALIANS                          Date: 05/30/94  8:50p
Subj: MegaRace: in stock!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MegaRace (Jewel Case): Just arrived + in stock!!
as reviewed on p52 Computer Market June '94.

MegaRace: You're the star of Virtual World Broadcast TV's hit show -
MegaRace. To keep ratings up you're pitted again five of the nastiest
drivers ever to take a wheel in a wild virtual race to the finish ...
yours ... or theirs.

Price: Only $49.00 AUD + $5 O/N Express Post.
(Note: COD also available)

If pre-paying, send cheques/money orders to:

Daniel Tsui
305 Carmody Road
St Lucia Qld 4067

Daniel.

Voice: 07-371-2885
Netmail: 3:640/297.10 (NOT the below address)
Internet: [e-mail]



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From: ANDREW OSBORNE                         Number: 6140
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 05/29/94 11:09a
Subj: Linux                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 06 21:54 94, Scott Raley of 1:109/538 wrote:

CG:>>Do you sell linux cd's, if so, wich one,

 SR> We sell three:  the Yggdrasil Linux @ $27.90, Infomagic
 SR> Linux 2/94 @ $14.90, and the Linux Toolkit at $21.90.  We


Do any of these have the Slackware 1.2 version??

Andrew

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From: ANDREW OSBORNE                         Number: 6141
  To: ANDREW BISHOP                            Date: 05/29/94 11:32a
Subj: Re: Science Fiction Books               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 16 08:22 94, Andrew Bishop of 3:800/853 wrote:

 TE>> Does anyone know whether or not a CD exists that contains
 TE>> listings of Science Fiction books?  I know this sort of
 TE>> thing exists in book form, but CD-ROM seems so much more
 TE>> appropriate.

 AB> I know that there is a CD with with author/title
 AB> information on it, on of the local secondhand book dealers
 AB> has it, as to how much sf info it would have on it I
 AB> couldn't say, I think that one of the people in the SF echo
 AB> has a copy of it do you might try asking about it there.

 AB> Andrew Bishop.


You are thinking of "Books in Print"




Andrew Osborne

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 6142
  To: BILLY HARLESS                            Date: 05/30/94 10:14a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 12                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day BILLY HARLESS, In a message on <May 22>, you said :
 BH>
 BH> Over 600 megs and 4000 files, 95% dated 1994.
          ^^^^^^^^^^   ^^^^^^^      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

BH> This CD has been dup checked, virus scanned and

There isnt that much on this disk
this is a copy of results.txt found in the route directory of the Cdrom

_ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _
      O \

                             Night Owl's Publisher

                             ---------------------


Night Owl's Publisher custom CD-ROM file data analyzer
Copyright 1994 by Night Owl's Publisher

Analysis report generated on Thu Apr 1994 at 13:13

Analyzed DIR files in E:\NIGHT\TEXT
Volume label = NOPV_12

Total files          =       3,585
1993 files           =       1,393
1994 files           =       2,192
Total ZIP files      =       3,556

Total bytes          = 611,614,980   583 Megabytes

Largest file         = DRLOVE.ZIP      2,419,634
Smallest file        = TC14_HX.ZIP           416

Oldest file          = BLUEJAY3.GIF   05-23-1993
Newest file          = BUST074.ZIP    06-06-1994
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^ the date on this is
interesting.

------------------
As you can see there not 600+ Megabytes nor are there 4000 files.
The percentage is way out, according to my calcs there are only around 60%
dated 94. The dates bit is not strictly true either. There may be many files
DATED later than 1993, however there are also many DATED later than 93 but are
in fact originally dated many years earlier (they are not updates). The dates
have been altered. I saw many files where the Archive date and time +files
date/time + fileID.diz etc were all EXACTLY the same time and date.
I suspect that they are having problems finding 600+ megabytes of NEW files
every 3 months, so they are resorting to "Cheating" on some to keep up the
quota, perhaps they should look to every 4 months or even 6 months instead of 3
months for a release.


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 6143
  To: STEPHEN RANSON                           Date: 05/30/94 10:34a
Subj: What Gives                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Stephen Ranson, In a message on <May 28>, you said :

 SR> Hello Scott,

 SR> The message below is one that was written to me by Steve
 SR> Mann it along with hudreds of others is appearing in the
 SR> CD-ROm Echo as if it was sent by You.   Something is amiss
 SR> somewhere, but I know not where.

He simply STUFFED up his setup and was re-echoing a lot of messages. I noticed
he got of replies from people thinking that the messages originated from him.
I presume by now that he has fixed it all up.


                                        Laurie

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From: JEAN-PIERRE REGNIER                    Number: 6144
  To: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN                       Date: 05/30/94  6:39p
Subj: WordPerfect SIXO                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chanchai!

Tuesday May 24 1994, Chanchai Hosanguan writes to All:
 CH> I have WordPerfect SIXO for Windows on CD-ROM for sale.  Asking
 CH> for $90 delivered.  If interested please reply here.
Reply Here ?...hummm I'm afraid it'll take a long long time..:-(
I tried to send a Direct mail but you mailer did'nt liked ;-(
Greetings from Guadeloupe...
Jean-Pierre

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 6145
  To: PRESTON VOOSEN                           Date: 05/30/94  9:24a
Subj: CD ROM reading error                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PV>Has anyone heard of a CD ROM drive not reading a disk, and if the disk is
PV>ejected and re-inserted everything works fine?

Usually caused by the CD not getting correctly centered on the spindle,
so there's too high an eccentricity as it rotates... prevents the servo
from being able to follow the track.  It happens on occasion.

PV>My Sony CD ROM drive has bee
PV>doing that lately with a few of my Multimedia programs.  Also, I have been
PV>wanting to play the audio from the CD ROM through the SB, but it must be
PV>plugged into the headphones jack on the CD ROM drive.  Any ideas on that?

You need to have the cable correctly wired and correctly plugged between
the audio output on the player and the audio input on your SB card.  If
it doesn't play at all, it's often because you have to pull the contacts
out and rearrange them at one end of the audio connections cord.

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 6146
  To: DAN WHEELER                              Date: 05/30/94  9:41a
Subj: Multiple CD-Roms                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DW>I have 3 of the single speed IDE CD-ROMs.  I'd like to put them all in the s
DW>machine.  I've mapped out the IRQ's and stuff. the question is with the
DW>Software.  In the Config.sys it looks like I have to load the Driver for eac
DW>CD-Rom, due to the memery addresses and IRQ's  but do I have to load 3 copie
DW>of MCDEX.exe.   Are there particualar switches for that?

No, one copy of MSCDEX is enough.  Just specify each of the three driver
names (like MSCD001, MSCD002, MSCD003, whatever) on the command line, in
the same way you do for the first one.  Works fine here.

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 6147
  To: JEFF GREGOIRE                            Date: 05/30/94  8:50p
Subj: cd rom help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JG>I bought my computer with a cd rom. I extended the memory to 8mg but my
JG>computer didnt seem to be using the memory. A friend suggested using qemm386
JG>memory manager to fix the problem. When I dumped emm386 for the qemm in some

I'd suggest starting by taking QEMM out and putting EMM386 back in.  If
your CD-ROM drive now acts normally again, then that sounds to me like
QEMM is the culprit.  In which case, I'd suggest you dump it.

Also, I've read that (at least some versions!) MSCDEX doesn't like being
loaded high.  Did QEMM try to load it high?  If so, maybe that's your
problem too.

JG>has screwed up my cd rom. My computer now acts as if it isnt there. How do i
JG>make sure my computer knows its there? I reloaded the cd rom driver but that
JG>didnt help.

Hope this helps ya, Jeff!

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 6148
  To: JEFF CRAIG                               Date: 05/30/94  8:55p
Subj: Double Speed CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>I was wondering what is a reasonable double-speed cd=rom that I can afford a
JC>don't have to morgage the house on?  Leave me a message thanx!

Get the Panasonic 562-B, it's about US$150-175 with interface and cables
and driver, motorized drawer, double-speed, caddyless... a nice drive.
What's more, it can take up to four daisychained drives on one interface
card, and even those interface cards can fit several into one machine
since they need neither DMA nor IRQ and can usually be configured to
many different I/O addresses.  So they'll work with almost anything.
There's little reason, I think, to pay more.

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 6149
  To: BEN HARMON                               Date: 05/30/94  9:14p
Subj: Panasonic CR-562-B's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BH>I am still interested in putting 4 to 8 of those on my bbs, but nobody
BH>has made me an offer I could'nt refuse yet. Also considering the

FWIW, I get those Panasonic drives (with controller, cables and driver
diskette) for 895FF HT here in Paris.  They're nice because you can put
four drives on each controller card, and usually can put in a LOT of
controller cards too (as many as eight!), without hassles.

BH>Pioneers 6PAK and 18PAK, once again nobody has made me an offer I
BH>could'nt refuse :-))

I think they are FAR too expensive for what they are.

BH>I'm real concerned on the 18PAK though. Thats alot of money to throw
BH>down on something as vast as 18CDROMs. If I junk all my ol sony CDROMs
BH>and put it online and it breaks... I'm thru, so it may not be a very
BH>wise decission. Thats why I need some backup in the way of the
BH>Panasonics. If one goes down I'll still have the other three. And for
BH>the costs I could order another immediately.

I agree with you that putting 18 CD-ROM eggs all in one basket is
worrisome... if the drive goes down for a couple of weeks, you're DEAD
until it comes back up.

What I just did last Friday was to buy six Philips 205 single-speed
drives, with interface cards... total cost, less than $400 plus tax...
the downside is that you can't put them all in one machine, but the
upside is that if you're running a peer-to-peer LAN (like Little Big
LAN, which I like a lot) with several machines, you can put up to two or
three of them in each machine without too much trouble.  And they are
REAL cheap, only about half again the price of a 5-1/4" floppy drive.

And of course, if you have problems it's likely to only affect that one
drive/machine, which gives you a lot greater reliability than you'll
ever get with something like the Pioneer changer.  No long delays while
changing discs, either.  Eighteen of the Philips drives, by the way,
would only cost you about $1200.  Compare that with the price of the one
18-disc Pioneer (and with it, don't forget the SCSI card you'll need).

I think it's a dynamite solution for putting lots of storage on a
multi-node BBS, cheap.

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From: BILLY MULLINS                          Number: 6150
  To: JAMES POLLOCK                            Date: 06/01/94 10:29p
Subj: Re: Loom                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ok thanks for your help


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From: BILLY MULLINS                          Number: 6151
  To: RON LOTTERMANN                           Date: 06/01/94 10:29p
Subj: Loom                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ok thanks for your help


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From: BILL ENGLISH                           Number: 6152
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/02/94 10:23a
Subj: Where is my CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Brice!

Sunday May 15 1994 05:31, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Matt Hendrix:

Brice, Its now over one month since I talk with you on the Phone and sent in my
money to you the next day for those CD's.

You assured me over the phoner that you had no problem shipping to my FPO as
you also used to have an FPO number and knew how to do it.

I trusted you and sent you a Check.  Can you explain what's taking so long?

FPO Air Mail takes about 7 days to reach here.

Please investigate and send immediately.

Bill
Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.

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From: BILL ENGLISH                           Number: 6153
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 10:23a
Subj: Hitachi CDRoms                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I have a 4 Pack of CD roms here that has all Hitachi CDR-3600U Cd roms in the
case.  On the back of the CDrom's is a 40 pin connector.  These CDrom's are
connected to a 4 connector cable and terminated at the rear going into a 37 Pin
connector.  Looks like pin 40 is cut (On Purpose) and there is three wires
going to pin 38 or 39.

I cannot find out what type Controller card is necessary to run these 4 Drives.
Does anyone know what type Controller the Hitachi CDrom 3600U takes? Appreciate
any and all info.

Bill
A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.

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From: FRANCIS VAN DEN EYNDE                  Number: 6154
  To: REID EARLS                               Date: 05/29/94  4:33a
Subj: recommending a CD-Rom game..            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

 RE> Other than MYST (which is absolutely incredible), CD-ROM Today! magazine
 RE> gave Lands of Lore a 5.0 (100%).

You seem to know about Lands of Lore as well as about Myst. I've finished Lands
of Lore and it's great !!! I just logged on to this area and I've been reading
about Myst... how is it, compared to Lands of Lore ? I heared it's a windows
game, is that true, can you play it full screen, is there animation in it, is
it spoken,... If you think it's as good as Lands of Lore, please let me know.

Ciao,
Francis   (2:292/805.102)

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From: MARTIN CLEAVER                         Number: 6155
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/31/94  9:07p
Subj: BEWARE OF BORIS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Brice,

In a message of <Wed 25 May 94 15:01> to Martin Cleaver (), you wrote:

 MC>I don't expect to pay shrink-wrapped
 MC>prices for scruffy plastic cases with CD-ROMS, no docs, no registration
card
 MC>and not even any packaging.

 BF>  Unfortunately, that's the way some CD-ROM MANUFACTURERS distribute their
 BF> goods.

But not Microsoft or Corel (the manufacturers in this case).

Bye, Martin.

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From: MATHIEU NOTERIS                        Number: 6156
  To: TIMOTHY ROY                              Date: 05/27/94 10:11p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Timothy!

Monday May 23 1994 13:09, Timothy Roy wrote to Mathieu Noteris:

 MN=>> Could someone help me ? Even a hint would be appreciated .......
 TR>      You can't leave a bishop vulnerable.

Yes, I know the rules of chess already ...

 TR>   You have to leave them where
 TR> they can't be taken.  This is one of the harder puzzles in the game.

Now, I know that as well ! But, yes, I GOT IT !!!!!

Ok, thanks for the e-help (help by e-mail)

Best regards

Mathieu

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From: MATHIEU NOTERIS                        Number: 6157
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94 10:05a
Subj: 7th Guest ...... HELP NEEDED !          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Everybody!

Playing 7th Guest, I'm now in the lab and desesperately trying to solve the
microscope puzzle.

As you can imagine (if you are not a 7th Guest player) or as you already know
(if you are a 7th Guest player), this is the most difficult one .... I'm trying
to solve it for 2 weeks now.

If you have any clue, hint or, why not, a detailed solution to propose, I
listen to you...... HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP, please !

Best regards

Mathieu

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From: MATHIEU NOTERIS                        Number: 6158
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/94 10:10a
Subj: Audio cable missing ....                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello everybody,

I have a Texel (=Plextor) 3028 SCSI-2 CD-ROM and a Sound Blaster Pro but I have
not found any audio cable to interconnect them........ This cable is not very
easy to find. I tried all (I think) Brussels dealer but none was able to
provide this cable.

Can someone help me there ?

Best regards

Mathieu

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From: MATHIEU NOTERIS                        Number: 6159
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 05/29/94 10:09a
Subj: average file date on cd's               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Terry!

Wednesday May 04 1994 10:00, Terry Blount wrote to All:

 TB>  I've just  finished  laboring  several  hours  writing a  program
 TB>  that would scan a cd rom disc  and  calculate  the  average  file
 TB>  date of that disc.

This program does interest me very much. Could mail me a copy (if you accept to
share it, of course) :

Mathieu Notéris
39 av. Marechal Joffre
1190 Brussels - Belgium
Europe


Best regards

Mathieu


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From: MATHIEU NOTERIS                        Number: 6160
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/94  5:54p
Subj: REBEL ASSAULT Fix                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello !

 YD> There is a newer version out.  REB17.ZIP (449958 bytes) is the latest.  It
 YD> is available on LucasArt BBS or on the BBS # of the tagline.

Is this fix available somewhere in Europe (USA would be to costly to call from
Belgium) or, better, in Belgium ??

Best regards

Mathieu

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 6161
  To: BRYAN ALEXANDER                          Date: 06/02/94  1:07p
Subj: Genealogy                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I am looking for a source of CD-roms with genealogical information,
 > ie.
 > census records, birth and death notices, etc for sale or rent.  I
 > would
 > be grateful for any information you could supply.  --Bryan Alexander

   Snag the GENEALOGY echo and ask. I've seen a longggg list of
   genealogy disks in there several times, but never bothered to
   capture the list to a file. :(

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From: MARTIN REINERTZ                        Number: 6162
  To: JONO GREENE                              Date: 05/30/94  6:29p
Subj: Doom on CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jono!

A few days ago I read in a German mailbox that there is only an illegal
version of DOOM on CD. Someone wrote to "ALL" he would advice everone not to
buy DOOM on this medium.

This shall only be a warning. I don't know if the message I read really is
true?!


Bye,
  Martin


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From: BEN HARMON                             Number: 6163
  To: MALCOLM YOUNG                            Date: 05/30/94  9:58a
Subj: Mscd001???  panasonic 2x                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Malcolm!

In a message to Ben Harmon <05/22/94> Malcolm Young wrote:

MY>  > Try changing that to read MSCD000 and see if that helps if not
MY>  > get back with me cuz it get a tiny bit more complex then

MY> It will not make any difference as it is only a name and you can use any
MY> that would be valid as a DOS filename.

Yea... what does make a difference it that both the driver.sys and the
mscdex are calling it the same thing.

Best Wishes

Ben

RATS BBS Sulzbach-Rosenberg Germany 6 Gigs On-Line 09661-9633 21.6 USR

 * WCE 1.5/2217 * Stand back!  It's a Beta!


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From: DAVID SILVER                           Number: 6164
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 06/01/94  6:59a
Subj: 5'10 pack                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Geoffrey,

Wednesday May 25 1994 20:23, Geoffrey Cylwik wrote to All:

 GC> PS. Burn the rule about the 10 line price listing stuff.

Nah, just burn folks that ignore it...

David

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From: DAVID SILVER                           Number: 6165
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/01/94  7:05a
Subj: 6-DISK CHANGERS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Brice,

Thursday May 26 1994 12:43, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to David Silver:


 >> Plus, I use a door called EZROM that deals with
 >> any possible collisions that might occur in my multinode setup.

 BF>  "Copy to HD" software helps a lot on ANY multiline setup if folks try
 BF> to access the same disc at nearly the same time, and somewhat the rest
 BF> of the time.

It does a bit better than that.  EZROM creates a semaphore that alerts others
wanting to access the same drive that it is in use and retries until it can get
through.  Combined with the 612k transfer rate of the Pioneer, that translates
into virtually NO wait time for anyone.  If you want to see what fast really
means, watch the 604X transfer a couple of megs from CD to HD...


David

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From: DAVID SILVER                           Number: 6166
  To: LLOYD BURTON                             Date: 05/31/94  6:15p
Subj: PIONEER 604X-INFORMATION                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Lloyd,

LB>  Thanks for the information. I have a scsi chip built right into the

You're very welcome.

LB>  Would you happen to have the phone number and address for Pioneer so
LB>  that I can talk to their technical support?

Address:

Pioneer New Media Technologies
2265 East 220th Street
Long Beach, CA 90810

Sorry, they don't seem to have the phone number listed in the accompanying
docs.  If you don't find it by the time you read this, please let me know and
I'll look again.

David

... ProTag - Version 1.0
Desqview!?!  I can't even see the floor!!

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From: VOLKER MEYER                           Number: 6167
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 05/31/94 11:01a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol. 1 No.1                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BT> that some  are going for $450.00, I dont want that much, but
 BT> would take $250.00  and still be able to sleep at night :)
Wow, why are people willing to pay that much for a single CD?

Volker.
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From: VOLKER MEYER                           Number: 6168
  To: DARREN YAN                               Date: 05/31/94 11:02a
Subj: Sam & Max                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DY> From what I know, Koen, the CD full talkie version is
 DY> already out over there.
Have you played the game?
Can you give me a hint how to make bigfoot-shoes?

Volker.
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From: GLENN FERGUSON                         Number: 6169
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/01/94 11:23p
Subj: House Of Games...                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Did you get house of games out to me yet? I was just wondering if i was
too close to my limit on the mc or something... Just checking...

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From: DON MOORE                              Number: 6170
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  4:45p
Subj: Cinemania '94                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have Cinemania '94 they want to get rid of?

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From: DANIEL WESTLAKE                        Number: 6171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  7:22p
Subj: PRE-SCHOOL MUSIC SOFTWARE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for software (cd or otherwise) to use to teach pre-school
kids some basic music skills.  I'm only looking for new stuff (nothing
over a year old) at good prices.  317-773-0581  Dan or
[e-mail] over the internet.

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From: DANIEL WESTLAKE                        Number: 6172
  To: FOR_SALE                                 Date: 06/01/94  7:22p
Subj: PRE-SCHOOL MUSIC SOFTWARE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for software (cd or otherwise) to use to teach pre-school
kids some basic music skills.  I'm only looking for new stuff (nothing
over a year old) at good prices.  317-773-0581  Dan or
[e-mail] over the internet.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 6173
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  3:15a
Subj: $8.95 Cream 2                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


          $8.95   *  Cream of the Crop vol 2  *   $8.95

 In order to introduce the Cream of the Crop shareware series  I'm
 offering the remaining vol 2's that I have  in  stock  for  $8.95
 each. Vol 2 contains over 650 megs of high quality shareware. The
 average file date of this cd is  6-15-93.    I'm  confident  that
 when you see the quality of this disc you will also want to  pick
 up the recently released vol 3. Shipping is  $1.05   ...so a  $10
 bill, check, or money order will get your disc delivered to you.

               Terry Blount, Box 36, BLB, Al. 36509

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 6174
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  3:18a
Subj: 10 % off !                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $89 each.

 Total for a 4  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 10% off... regular $500 price now  $450    Hurry only 10 left!

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite. (These drives are working pulls.)

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From: ED HARFORD                             Number: 6175
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 11:31a
Subj: Looking for these CDs:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a good buy on the following CDs:

Home Medical Advisor Pro (under $35)

Where in the USA is Carmen Sandiego (under $25)

American Heritage Talking Dictionary (under $40)



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From: ED HARFORD                             Number: 6176
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 11:37a
Subj: Need Phone # for Power Up               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone get the Power Up magazine?  I need their toll-free number.  Thanks.

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From: GEORGE MANOLIS                         Number: 6177
  To: JOHN ALLISON                             Date: 06/01/94 10:58a
Subj: MYST Help                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JA> As I said this is very tricky but the note count I have
 JA> given you is correct and once you have set them if it
 JA> does not work try changing 1 up or down on each
 JA> slider. Or find a friend who has a musical ear to try
 JA> and match the tones but my solution was the key count method.

I have a musical ear, but they don't play any sounds when i pull the lever...

Zeus.


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From: ALAN BORGOLOTTO                        Number: 6178
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 10:20a
Subj: Return to Zork CD-ROM                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in trading my Return to Zork CD-ROM game (comes
complete with manual) for either Megarace CD-ROM or Rebel Assault
CD-ROM.  Is anyone interested?

If so please call me at [phone] or leave me a message here.


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From: LARRY BRISTOW                          Number: 6179
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 12:00a
Subj: Pioneer 6 disk                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Can anyone give me some ideas here?   I recently purchased a pioneer 6 disk CD
ROM for my BBS and use ROMDOOR for everyone to access it. The trouble comes in
when a user marks a file for download, the whole system grinds to a halt for a
few seconds. Has anyone else found a way around this? Im using a 8 Bit Future
Domain SCSI board and a 486dx with 8 megs ram on a Wildcat BBS. Maybe I dont
have everything configure right, any help would be great.

 Thanks
 Larry

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From: RAINER VONSALESKI                      Number: 6180
  To: ANDREW BARNHARDT                         Date: 06/02/94  8:30a
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I would see what I can do about getting some empty jewel cases

That seems to be the only viable solution.  The cost seems to range from 50
cents to $1.50, so I'll just have to enter "bargain-hunter" mode.  It does seem
a shame that the manufacturers are trying to save what can't be more than 39
cents in the manufacturing cost.

> No, personally I don't keep CDs in Ziploc bags... I was just saying that,
> off the top of my head, it didn't seem like such a bad idea.

You're right; Ziploc bags _would_ be better than the assorted thin packaging
materials some vendors use. :-)

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From: RAINER VONSALESKI                      Number: 6181
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 06/02/94  8:35a
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> May I suggest something simpler to you both? Try the slip cases
> for the 5.25 inch discs. They are very effective, protective,
> convenient and should cost you no more than a question to someone
> who uses that size disk. Cheers!

I have more than a lifetime supply of 5 1/4 inch disk boxes, both cardboard and
the plastic ones Maxell was using at one time.  (I also have a lifetime supply
of 5 1/4 inch disks, slightly used :-) .)  So, are you suggesting that I simply
put the plastic-sleeved CD into the disk box?  Yes, that's one way.  I guess
this is one time it's OK to put "new wine into old wineskins."

Still, I'll probably opt for buying empty jewel boxes, simply for convenience
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From: RAINER VONSALESKI                      Number: 6182
  To: SHARRON OVERBY                           Date: 06/02/94  8:41a
Subj: Re: Packaging of CD-ROMs                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> These days, CD-ROMs are packaged in many different packaging styles.
> Most of the game discs for example will be packed in a nice p-case
> (jewel case); however, many of them will be packaged in the thin paper
> or plastic type sleeve or even the cardboard mailers.

I recall reading about the early days of audio CDs: the disks were stored in a
wide variety of ways, all different, no two the same size.  Early reviewers
were very vocal about wanting a uniform size container, and about how much
easier the jewel box was to handle.  Plus the retail dealers wanted some shelf
uniformity.  So the jewel box became _the_ standard for audio CDs.

But in the computer field, I guess it's the outer cardboard box that fits on a
bookshelf that's the standard for the retailer -- never mind what's inside --
books, disks, CDs, objects, etc.  Which means the retailers aren't going to
sqwak about the "innards" of the product.

Of course, I've never been one to keep the entire cardboard box; I don't have
enough room on the bookshelves in my work area.  So I fillet them, keeping the
diskettes in storage designed for them, and the manuals on my bookshelf.  Which
is how I come to wonder what to do about the CDroms: the "naked" ones need some
protection from the chaos of my desk.

> But, jewel case packaging is not necessarily a given as there are
> many other methods being tried and tested.

I'm waiting for one of them to become proven.  Maybe the CD-ROM industry has to
relive the early days of the audio CD industry.  Or maybe someone will come up
with a great CD-ROM storage device and get rich solving the problem. :-)

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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 6183
  To: DAVE BEATRICE                            Date: 06/02/94  4:59p
Subj: cd-trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DB>I have Maddog McCree for trade.  Will trade for just about
DB>anything except for adventure type stuff.  If interested, leave
DB>message here.

DB>Dave...

I'll trade ya the sandiago zoo presents...the animals

Think about it,

Geoffrey Cylwik
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 6184
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 06/02/94  5:01p
Subj: Myst and Rebel Assault!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF>I have

SF>    Myst with Box and Manuals

SF>         And
SF>    Rebel Assault with Box and Manuals

SF>    For Trade or SALE, Preferably sale, I would like $35 each plus
SF>shipping, but am willing to let RA go a little cheaper or trade
SF>easier!

SF>              Make me some deals buds

I'll trade you a diskman that is about a year old for both of these
titles, shipped.  Well, you said make you an OFFER?

Geoffrey Cylwik
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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 6185
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  9:09a
Subj: Cd-rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DFW Discount Electronics   CD-ROM Price List        Ship to USA ONLY
  Orders: 800-829-0331 BBS: 214-790-1874                  06/02/94
 Games 1994..................................................  $24.95
 Night Owl 12 4/94...........................................  $21.95
 Software Vault Emerald 6/94 (Pre-release Orders)............  $18.95
 Myst (MPC/Windows)..........................................  $49.95
 Rebel Assault (Boxed).......................................  $45.95
 Seventh Guest (2 disc set)..................................  $23.95
 5ft. 10 Pack (10 CD-ROMs)...................................  $33.95
 Corel Draw 3.0 (Windows)....................................  $54.95

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From: ANTHONY FIELDS                         Number: 6186
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 11:54a
Subj: Software Catalog on Disk                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer software catalog on disk
hundreds of computer software on disk for as low as 99 CENTS!
send $3 to: 6101 Boca Raton 266, Ft. worth, TX 76112

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From: MIKE BEKETIC                           Number: 6187
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  8:14a
Subj: DMV                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The DMV CD will be released next week. It contains over 2 Million
Oregon Drivers License Records and over 3 Million Oregon License Plate
Records. It has a scanned Oregon Drivers License (both sides).
Price $129 personal use, $250 Business. Send Checks to:
Mike Beketic
9520 SE MT. Scott Blvd.
Portland, OR 97266
Call for more info or dealer pricing: 503-777-2910
 Now you can look up that suspicious car cruising your neighborhood.
 Look up that beautiful blond driving next to you on the freeway.
 Make mailing lists.
 Start a 900 line for DMV info.
DO NOT USE THIS CD ILLEGALLY NOR TO:
-Make phony Drivers Licenses.
-Make phony Titles.
-Make phony I.D.
-Make phony checking accounts.
-Obtain others credit cards nor I.D.
-Harass Cops, Politicians, Lawyers nor Journalists.
-Stalk celebrities.

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6188
  To: NATHAN LEWIS                             Date: 06/02/94  2:49p
Subj: Free CD! Canada Too!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Nathan!

NL> -=> Quoting Scott Huffman to All <=-

NL> SH> *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*  FREE CDROM DISC OFFER  *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
NL> SH> Shipping/Handling Charges:     Contiguous U.S. - $2.50
NL> SH> Canada          - $3.00                           ^^^^
NL>                                                       ||||
NL>                                                       ^^^^
NL>                               Big rip off.  I looked on the package you
NL>                               sent me this in, and it only cost you $.52
NL>                               to send it to me.  And I live halfway across
NL>                               the US!!!  (Wisconsin)
NL>                               Not exacly free.
NL>                               See ya!
NL>                               Nathan Lewis

 Sorry you feel that way Nathan. The $.52 is for postage only.
 The advertisement states that the charges involved are to cover both
 the shipping, as well as the handling cost.

 Note also, that the ad you have quoted only ran for one day. The owner
 wanted to raise the price by $.50 as a result of switching the
 mail packaging from a plain 6x9 envelope to to one which is bubble
 lined. I got him to lower the charge back down to $2.00.

 Nathan, if you feel that you did not get your money's worth in this
 transaction, then feel free to return the disc and I'll refund your
 money.

 Best Regards,

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6189
  To: MARCOS BROLIO                            Date: 06/01/94  8:46a
Subj: Adult Cd's $12.95 & Up!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Marcos!

MB>SH> *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* The Profit Group *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*

MB>Hi,
MB>Can you send a catalog ??

 Sorry Marcos, we're not big enough to put out a catalog yet, but we do
 have a flyer that we mail out periodically. If you keep an eye on this
 echo and follow my posts to ALL, you can see our entire product line
 here on Fidonet.

MB>I see a notice of Profit Press in a magazine called CD-Rom Wolrd.

 Yea, we're there for now, but we'll probably drop them as an ad source
 in the future some time.

MB>Are you work there ??

 We are one in the same.

MB>And this placa have a Cd that i want.
MB>This CD is: FORBIDDEN SUBJECTS (US$ 39) . Can you get it for me ??

 Yes, we do sell that CDROM disc, as well as any of the others you see
 in our hard copy advertisements.

MB>How i pay you ?

 We accept MasterCard, Visa and International Money Orders as acceptable
 forms of payment on foreign orders.

MB>Sorry about any english errors, but i talk, better write, ok ??

 No problem, this is my native tongue and I have to agree with you.

 Thank you for your inquiry Marcos! If I can answer any other questions
 for you, sent me back a reply.

 Take Care,

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6190
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/01/94  9:16a
Subj: Enough Already                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

To: Mike Shannon
Subject: ENOUGH ALREADY


 Hello Mike!

MS>Not true.  I joined CDROM_SALE in late 1992, so I know it has been around
MS>at least since then.  (Or is this another one of your year-old messages?)

 Ha ha ha! I've received a few of those as well, and have begun
 expecting a turn around time of at least a month on my replies.

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6191
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 06/02/94  2:09p
Subj: Flyer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Sam!

SF>Scott,
SF>    When are ya guys gonna put out some NEW discs?

 Just did this week. It's called the 'Mega Tri-Pack 3' and consists
 of the following New titles:   Mega CDROM 4
                                Mega Windows 3
                                Mega Games 2

SF>         Lookin for the flyer this week

 Probably will hit early next week. We've been swamped with the last
 mailing and are generally running about a week behind on our schedules.

 Later Sam,

 Scott

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From: MICHAEL HAMMER                         Number: 6192
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  9:34p
Subj: Phone Directories                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greetings all,

I am interested in learning about phone directories on CDROM for countries
around the world (I just picked up THE Green Pages for Australia).

I am particularly interested in directories (business) for European countries
and for Pacific rim and Asian countries.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Hammer

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 6193
  To: SHARRON OVERBY                           Date: 06/02/94 10:13p
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I work for a CD manufacturing company and it has just been my


   I am interested in cutting a CD disk. I need to have a master
   cut, does the company you work for do this? Or just the pressing?
   Could you please send me some info or have someone contact me
   at 19 Arlington Pk., Bflo., NY 14201-1318 or call me at
   716-881-6430 (EST-Bflo, NY).

   Thanx.... Marlina
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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 6194
  To: JOHN HART                                Date: 06/02/94 10:13p
Subj: $4.75 CD-ROMS!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > if you read this first, I haven't gotten a hold of you yet!

   You got a hold of me first. :)  Thanx for the call back.

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 6195
  To: JOHN HART                                Date: 06/02/94 10:13p
Subj: Outrageous shipping!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > The UPS ground shipping is even worse than I thought.  $6.25 for COD
 > and $4.49 for frieght.  It cost me $10.74 to ship!  $19 for the 4
 > CD's
 > I made the COD out for $29.64 total.  I hope that's not too high.
 > Would you like a copy of my UPS receipt?

    WOW! Shoulda went US mail me thinks!  I don't require the
    the receipt tho. I'll trust ya. :)  I have the funds ready
    for delivery, how did you ship? Express??? haha... Guess it's
    the COD throwing me for a loop, first time I've ordered COD,
    I usually send a MO out first. Live and learn, eh? :)

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From: TIM VAY                                Number: 6196
  To: JAMES DOMENGEAUX                         Date: 06/02/94 10:02a
Subj: Cd's For Sale Or Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> TV> -> Can you give me more info on these two. What edition is the
-> TV> Bookshelf
->
-> TV> Microsoft bookshelf is about 199.00 and has alot of great
-> TV> information in it. almost a must have. 25.00 will get it.
->
-> Okay but what year is it? (edition)?
->
  1992 and it was sold Today. thanks for the reply.


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From: IVAN PETROV                            Number: 6197
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 06/01/94  7:41p
Subj: Comment                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HELLO!
ADULT AREA ?


GOODBAY. SEE YOU LATER.

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From: THOMAS BRADLEY                         Number: 6198
  To: SCOTT PARSELL                            Date: 06/01/94  9:24p
Subj: Door Problem !                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

When you die in Land of Devastation and it tries to return to the system it is
not successful ! It gives the background back like it wants to redraw the main
menu then draws zig zags and semi-circles through the command bar of FXTerm,
and whenever you try to do anything it just ignores the mouse and beeps when
you try to hit the hotkeys, but never executes any of the functions...  I have
had to disconnect  without logoff twice (since I died twice) yesterday!  also,
Legend Of the Red Dragon has hung on me twice.
Once was a daily time exceeded, I think, although I'm not sure, and last night
between 1 and 3 A.M. I had just defeated another user in an online battle, I
hit the L for list warriors, it showed me the first portion, paused with the
<More> prompt and that was it...  I waited a few minutes and tried hitting any
key to continue, as normal, and it never did!  I think the first time the board
tried to execute an out of time logoff without closing the door to return me to
the main system before logoff and just got confused...  It Didn't crash though
because I was able to call back shortly after!  I have no idea why it crashed
last night after it locked up... I tried calling all three nodes off and o
until about 4 am and it just wouldn't answer...  At first I thought it was
doing a daily event, but not answering at all for several hours???  Did you
find a problem or had it fixed itself when you found it?
Sorry to ramble so much, but being a Corporate Technician I'm told I pay too
much attention to detail by friends sometimes, although in my profession it's
always helpful to gather as much information as possible when something does go
wrong to more easily determine the cause and create a better solution to
prevent reoccurrences...
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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 6199
  To: DIANE PENCIL                             Date: 06/02/94  9:58a
Subj: Cinemania '94                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JK>Cinemania '94 $28.oo shipped
DP>I'll take it. Will you ship COD to my business?
Diane, I already have this sold (pending the check in the mail), and have had
atleast 4 others call/reply.. I wish I had more! <g>.. Sorry!


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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 6200
  To: LAST SURVIVOR                            Date: 06/01/94  3:12p
Subj: CD's for trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then it happened......Last Survivor says...

LS>As for Microcosm can ya give ya # again,
LS>calling ya would be better

 Sure. 809-293-5375



------------------------------------------------ Mike
 * Wave Rider 1.20 # 367 *
... Blue Wave - what Smurfs do at a football game..
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6201
  To: CHARLIE STRAKER                          Date: 06/02/94 11:51a
Subj: Re: Games for sale or tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Charlie,
    Well I live in TN so I guess we will have to mail trade it! It will
cost $4 to ship it since its kinda heavy! So what will the final deal
be! Let me know and then go ahead and ship your stuff out to me at:

    Sam Figueroa
    Sam's Software
    Rt 2 Box 2453-A
    Manchester, TN 37355

P.S. Cannot remember were ya gonna trade me a disc and some cash for it?
I had an offer of Day of the Tentacle and $20 but cannot remeber who it
was? Was it you? Well let me know the offer that you will make and then
I will confirm it!
              Thanks,
                   Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6202
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/01/94  7:55a
Subj: CD-ROM SUPER SALE!                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS> Magic Death...................15.90


What exactly is one this disc? Movies? Sound? Text?

        Send me a new catalog if ya would:

                        Sam Figueroa
                        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
                        Manchester, TN 37355
Thanks


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6203
  To: DAVID LEIVA                              Date: 06/01/94  7:58a
Subj: CD'S FOR TRADE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DL>Rebel Assault
DL>Megarace

DL>I am looking for Myst


I will trade ya Myst with box and manuals for Megarace and Rebel
Assault?

                Let me know, as for Myst is gonna go fast!!!!!

                Thanks,
                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6204
  To: JOHN NELSON                              Date: 06/01/94  8:00a
Subj: Cds for trade                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JN>Let me know if you want one (or more) of these. I would really like
to JN>get Myst if anyone has it to trade. And I am open to other offers
as JN>well. Thanks

I have Myst for trade or sale for $35 plus shipping, I also have Rebel
Assault under the same terms! Make me a deal of a trade or sale!

        Well thanks,
                Sam Figueroa
                Sam's Software


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6205
  To: DAVE BEATRICE                            Date: 06/02/94  8:41a
Subj: cd-trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DB>I have Maddog McCree for trade.  Will trade for just about anything except
DB>for adventure type stuff.  If interested, leave message here.

How about you trade me Maddog McCree for Nautilus CD and Duns Reference
Plus?

        Thanks,
                Sam Figueroa


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From: B.J. HEATH                             Number: 6206
  To: MARLINA MALONEY                          Date: 06/02/94  7:56a
Subj: Sound Blaster Pro Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM> > The front of the box says SBP-2B.  Is that what you want?  Make me an

MM>   That's what I want, a Basic. How much including shipping are
MM>   you asking for this?
MM>   Marlina

Marlina,

How about this:
SBPro w/speakers   - $65  including shipping/insurance
BJ
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From: COLIN ZIMMER                           Number: 6207
  To: DAVID LEIVA                              Date: 06/02/94  1:49p
Subj: CD'S FOR TRADE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 30 May 94 06:43pm, David Leiva wrote to All:

 DL> Rebel Assault

        How about PROTOSTAR for Rebel Assault???

2
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From: BRIAN NASH                             Number: 6208
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  9:35p
Subj: Used Cd's For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                        Used Shareware/Commercial CD's
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Aldus Photostyler 1.1       - Special Edition Image Processing. WIN - $17
    Barney Bear Goes To School  - Educational Game For Children. Mouse  - $14
    CD Fun House 9.0            - 300 Dos/900 Mac Ready-To-Run Programs - $10
    Cream Of The Crop II        - 5000 '93 High Quality Programs. 660M  - $15
    Dinosaur Adventure          - Dinosaur Storybooks, Games & Videos   - $24
    Disc To The Future II       - 300+ Megs Mac, PC, & Unix Prog. Refer.- $28
    Giga Games                  - 3000 Files In Arcade, Windows, & Educ - $12
    Iron Helix                  - Stunning 3-D Action Adventure. WIN    - $30
NFS Shareware Supreme 6.1       - Shareware w/Games, WINDOWS, Graphics  - $15
    Software Vault Games        - Hottest Hits, Games For Dos And Win   - $19
    Software Vault Gold         - Hottest Hits, Games, Educational, Etc - $19
    Software Vault WIN          - Hottest Hits In WINDOWS Shareware. BBS- $19
    SoundWAV I                  - 151 Original WAV Files. Mono/Stereo   - $13
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        NFS = Not For Sale Yet - Will Reserve It For Anyone Who Wants It

         Brian Nash - P.O. Box 3701 - Omaha, Ne. 68103 - [phone]
        1-9 pm Mon-Fri/1-5 pm Sat - Include $3 For 2nd Day Priority Mail
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From: CHRISTIAN BARTSCH                      Number: 6209
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 05/29/94 10:31a
Subj: Enough Already,gaming                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > BF> I personally am sick of seeing all the "game hints" garbage here
 > BF>- those by rights BELONG in the "GAMING" echo, not here.

 > I SM TOTALLY WITH YOU ON THAT ONE!!!

 > US RETAILERS NEED THIS ECHO.  GAMERS HAVE THEIRS!  I MEAN TO BE
 > SHOUTING. }:-<

well i'm not gonna shout back,but you as a retailer want this echo for your
commercial ends and a few gaming hints p**s you off ??

nodes here in europe have to carry YOUR commercial stuff which only COSTS (us
over here) money but BRINGS money only to you dealers in the states !

how about an amicable solution ?
the nodes in europe carry your commercial stuff and you don't get bothered by
the gaming hints (or how about a contribution to bring the GAMING echos to
europe ;-) ).

keep ads to the 10 lines limit and just hit DEL if a gaming hint comes on your
screen !

that should keep all people happy and there would be no need for shouting ;-)

Christian

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From: CHRISTIAN BARTSCH                      Number: 6210
  To: ATALIBA FARIA JR.                        Date: 05/30/94  5:46p
Subj: Thanks for your reply...                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >      Are you actualy in Germany ?
yepp
 >      Can you tell me any way to make contact with these people ?
nope,routinely throw away their junk mailings

Christian

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From: CHRISTIAN BARTSCH                      Number: 6211
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS                          Date: 05/30/94  5:55p
Subj: Quad Speed Drive: $400.0                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I just saw an add in Multimedia World for a Quad Speed
 > CD-ROM drive with a _list price_ of $400.00.
 > The drive is made by TEAC and I'm trying to get more info. I'll
 > let you all know what I find out.
yes,please !!!

 > If anyone knows anything about this drive, please let me know.
me too,me too ;-)

 > Jeremy in Chicago.
Christian
 in wuppertal,west-germany

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From: THOMAS HOFFECKER                       Number: 6212
  To: DAVID SILVER                             Date: 06/01/94  5:54p
Subj: File Request                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

David,

Could you please hold a lookout for HSD114C0.ZIP. It's a newer version
of HSLINK for Procomm for Windows. Thanks

Thomas
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From: DON FINNELL                            Number: 6213
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/26/94  6:20p
Subj: Still waiting on my ROMs                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hey Mike,

It has been over a month since you shipped my 6 of 7 discs and I still don't
have them yet.  What class mail did you ship them at?  I know you sent it
insured, but I think it should have been here by now.  Also, have you sent the
WIN-Box 2 disc out yet?  My Users are bugging me about them because I made it
public to them.  What gives?  In two weeks we can start a trace on it and I
would like to get the Insurance Number from your receipt so I can initiate
something on my end.  Please give me the details.

Thanks.

Don

... ProTag - Version 1.0
The mistake you make is in trying to figure it out.

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From: DON FINNELL                            Number: 6214
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/02/94  3:51a
Subj: Winbox 2                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS>  Don,
MS>  They shipped out on 4/27 by Priority Mail to your APO address.  The
MS>  insurance tag # is V-507043924 if you need that for your records.  Let me
MS>  know, and we can issue a trace from this end.

I just checked again today and my box was empty.  I am getting very impatient
as I have paid for the discs but not received anything.  I talked with the
Accountable Clerk and he said the tracer must be initiated on your end.  My
only concern is how much longer I will have to wait.  It is not fair for me to
wait until someone else fixes their screw up.

To aid in determining what went wrong,  please answer this echo and include the
complete address that you shipped it to.  Also,  how was it labeled?  If you
pasted ( CD-ROMs ) all over the box, instead of classifying it as ( Computer
Media ) then it was probably stolen.  Customs likes detailed descriptions, but
so do pilferers.

My intent is not to implicate anyone as to what happened between origin and
destination,  but please understand my side of this situation.

By the way, that ( Return Receipt ) for $1.00 that the post office sells would
have kept this from happening.  You could have seen exactly where it went and
who signed for it.  Now, I'm in the dark, and severely upset.

... ProTag - Version 1.0
I am perfectly sane, and so am I.

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From: MIKE NESTRUD                           Number: 6215
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 06/02/94 10:22a
Subj: What about a CD for Laptop.             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: What about a CD for Laptop.
BY: Pedro Vieira on Sat May 28 1994 22:41:00

 >         Hello my friends.
 >
 >         I've got an Epson ActionNote 4000 Laptop and I wanna attach to it a
 >         CD-ROM drive. Well, is it possible?
 >         I've got an Epson ActionNote 4000 Laptop and I wanna attach to it a
 >         CD-ROM drive. Well, is it possible?
 >         Does it exist a CD-ROM drive to be connected on a Laptop machine?
 >         Thanks & Regards.
         The best thing to do is get a SCSI-Parallel adapter... which plugs
into your parallel port, with a pass-through so you can still print.  Then
purchase an external SCSI (Small Computer Systems Interface) CD-ROM (NEC Makes
good ones)  and plug it in, and set up the software.   Hope this helps!
                                -Mike Nestrud
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From: MIKE NESTRUD                           Number: 6216
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 06/02/94  3:22p
Subj: What about a CD for Laptop.             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: What about a CD for Laptop.
BY: Pedro Vieira on Sat May 28 1994 22:41:00

 >         Hello my friends.
 >
 >         I've got an Epson ActionNote 4000 Laptop and I wanna attach to it a
 >         CD-ROM drive. Well, is it possible?
 >         I've got an Epson ActionNote 4000 Laptop and I wanna attach to it a
 >         CD-ROM drive. Well, is it possible?
 >         Does it exist a CD-ROM drive to be connected on a Laptop machine?
 >         Thanks & Regards.
         The best thing to do is get a SCSI-Parallel adapter... which plugs
into your parallel port, with a pass-through so you can still print.  Then
purchase an external SCSI (Small Computer Systems Interface) CD-ROM (NEC Makes
good ones)  and plug it in, and set up the software.   Hope this helps!
                                -Mike Nestrud
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From: ERIC JAN                               Number: 6217
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/29/94  9:51p
Subj: CD-ROM JUKEBOX                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> >  50+ CD-ROMs?  I know there are some CD player (not CD-ROM player)
-> up
-> >to 100 discs, but I don't know about CD-ROM..
->
->  NSM among several others makes a 100 or more disc CD-ROM changer.


Hello, Brice..

  That's a lot of CDs!!!  I wonder who would need that...  maybe BBS..

Eric


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From: STEVE PALM                             Number: 6218
  To: NORAYR HAJIAN                            Date: 06/02/94  6:50p
Subj: The Bible Library                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Norayr Hajian wrote in a message to All:

NH> I just got my Bible Library CD.  Man, whoever said that it
NH> was difficult to use was not kidding!

NH> I've used several bible software programs over the years,
NH> and haven't seen anything this difficult!  I actually had to
NH> read the manual to get through it (and even then it was
NH> confusing).

NH> Now I see why the price is below $30.

 Consider yourself lucky.  I got mine back when it was relatively
 new, and paid $79 I think.

Peace!


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6219
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  6:49a
Subj: !659 Cd's $25 or less!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-DISC SALE...
OS/2 Hobbes $13.05                     $5.00 FedEx shipping (domestic)
Shareware Studio 4 $16.00              $5.00 C.O.D.'s WELCOME!
NightOwl 12 $22.00, Cream of the Crop 3 $22,
>659 CD-ROM titles $25.00 or less!  To order discs or catalog contact:
>FilReq: CDLIST.zip or majic word CONFIG for over 2,200 CD-Titles
Joe Rinehart, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240.0001, or
voice:216.296.4446, voice:216.296.9831, DATA/FAX: [phone] - 24hrs
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE 1.800.6.CONFIG=1800.626.6344 24HRS

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6220
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  6:49a
Subj: $22.00 Cream of the crop                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       >>>>>>>>>>>"CREAM OF THE CROP III" only $22.00<<<<<<<<<<
     You've been reading about it & now's your chance to get it!
     The hottest selling shareware CD-ROM title available.  We've
never had a return on previous versions, as it is guaranteed to be
compatible for your system.  SATISFACTION 100% GUARANTEED!
IN-STOCK & SHIPPING DAILY around 5:00pm EST!
IMMEDIATE SHIPPING via FedEX Economy $5.00, Next day $7.00, COD$5.00
To order contact: Joe, config.sys, Inc., P.O. Box 27, Kent, OH 44240
Internet: [e-mail], Fido: 1:157/479, BBS: 216.296.2244, or our
>NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDER LINE: 1-800-6CONFIG (1.800.626.6344)

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  6:49a
Subj: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:  2@2659
Satisfaction guaranteed....
            ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<
NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)  24HOURS 7DAYS

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From: RICHARD EID                            Number: 6222
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  3:54p
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dear All Who Read The Password That Did Not Work For 7th Guest,

        I just got my game back and tried the code.  Guess what!  It didn't
work.  So I went up to the store and checked the code.  I think that I entered
the code right.  If you want to, go up to any store that sells magazines and
look for a magazine that is "Electric ?????" something or other.  Look on page
11(that is eleven as in 7-11 or Seven- Eleven)and look for an orange section on
the right hand side of the page that reads "For Your Cheatin' Hearts".  Read
that and see if I explained it right.

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

        There is also a great preview for The 11th Hour,(that's The Eleventh
Hour as in 7-11... wait, that took too long to type the last time I did it)the
amazing sequel to The 7th Guest.


I would put a preloaded tagline but I don't know where to find those.

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From: PETER PRASAD                           Number: 6223
  To: DU LAM                                   Date: 06/01/94 10:02a
Subj: Re: cd-rom & sound card                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Du Lam to Peter Prasad <=-

 PP> Is it possible to connect the cd-rom cable to both cd-rom
 PP> DL> interface card and the sound blaster? Please help me out thanks...
 PP>     This is a no no, however it is possiable to plug the audio output
 PP>     from your CD ROM to the SB basic and have the audio output, you may
 PP>     require a special cable for that, see your owners manuale.

 DL> Thanks for your information Peter, I already plugged the audio output
 DL> from my cd rom to the SB basic, It works ok but when I play 1 cd rom
 DL> game which requires 2 megs of expand memory and minimum of 580k
 DL> conventional memory, so I changed my config and autoexac files but
 DL> still only monitor works fine, once in a while audio can be heard at
 DL> speakers, Is it because I have a slow cpu 386dx25? or something else?

      It has to do with the memory more then the cpu, aa faster CPU is
      always better, but that depends on the budget .
      reconfigure and allow maximum expanded memory and try then.

      Peter


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From: PETER PRASAD                           Number: 6224
  To: ANDREW MCCALLISTER                       Date: 06/02/94  3:15p
Subj: Re: nec triple speed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew Mccallister to All <=-

 AM> I  know the Toshiba 3401 is supported by the Pro Audio
 AM> Spectrum's 16 sound card's SCSI interface but is the Nec
 AM> triple speed supported?
 AM> Thanks

     Yes they are, I was talking with their tech support about it, I think
     he said they also have the driver for it on the board, call their
     1 800 number for tech support.

     Peter


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From: BRYAN FULLER                           Number: 6225
  To: J. SHAPIRO                               Date: 06/01/94 10:19a
Subj: Your CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Wiz-Pak 6-Pak Cd-Rom

What is this??

-> Willy Beamish
-> Kings Quest 6
-> Will consider trades....

Would you trade either of the above fopr Indiana Jones and the Fate of
Atlantis? It's in the box with all manuals and a $15 hint book, even
still has the registration card. This is a CD game of course. It is a
GREAT game with full "talkie" as they call it. Interested...?


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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6226
  To: CHARLES HOLLEY                           Date: 06/02/94  3:58p
Subj: Myst Help-father page                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hmmmm....  I don't know what you do, then.  Maybe you have to actually look at
the pages and that triggers something in the game.. maybe you already have.
It's the one on the dock, eh?  Hmmm....


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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6227
  To: BARRIE BARRINGTON                        Date: 06/02/94  3:59p
Subj: RECOMMENDING A CD-ROM GAME              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wrath of the god, eh?  I'll look into it.  THanks.


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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6228
  To: PHIL ELLIOT                              Date: 06/02/94  4:02p
Subj: myst help.                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi.  I noticed you've finished the game.  Could you please give me a hand?  I'm
in the gear world.  I can only turn the tower to two different places, and...
well it's a long story, but it turns out I have a technical problem in the
game, so could you please tell me the four symbols that you enter in the panel
to make the book appear?  Thanks for your time.


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From: BEVIS LOWRY                            Number: 6229
  To: BARRIE BARRINGTON                        Date: 06/02/94  4:06p
Subj: MYST                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I noticed you passed myst.  I have a problem.  It's actually a technical
problem.   Anyway, in the gear world, what are the four symbols that you use to
enter in the control panel on the gear and get the book and leave.  Thanks a
lot for the help.


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From: ALAN FISHKIN                           Number: 6230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  2:37p
Subj: Cd Recording Service                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  CD ROM Recording Service:

  Send us QIC 80, QIC 40, Irwin, Colorado QFA 700, or 4mm DAT tapes, or
  any hard drive and get your files back on a CD readable in any CD ROM.

  Only $70.00 per CD.  Additional copies $45.00 each.

  CD will be readable in any CD ROM drive.
  We can also record your CD in CD ROM XA multi-session format so that
  you will be able to add more files to the CD at any later time.  This
  means you can delete file(s) or update any file(s) with a newer
  version.  All files, in all directories will appear in one volume the
  same as any single session CD. No extra charge for this service.  But
  there is a small loss of total capacity on the CD.

  Is your hard disk full?  Move your files to CD for a fraction of the
  cost of adding a hard drive.

  Also send us your WAV files, get back an audio CD with your WAV files
  converted to audio tracks, the same as any other audio CD.  Files
  should be 44.1 khz, 16 bit stereo. Other WAV formats will be converted
  for an additional charge. A CD holds up to 99 tracks.

  Our DAT drive is an Archive Python 2 Gig model 4320RT without hardware
  data compression/Decompression.  If you have the same drive, we only
  need your tape software.

  You may also send any tape drive, or hard drive. There will be an
  additional fee for hard drives or tape drives that require special
  handling, such as installing your controller.  We are set up for IDE
  and SCSI.

  Call for info.

          ------
  Send money order or check with your tapes to:

  Alan Fishkin
  20111 SW 114 Ave
  Miami, FL  33189      [phone]

  Include $5.00 for shipping and handling per CD.  Your tapes will be
  returned with your CD.  Add $5.00 additional for 2nd day air.  You may
  ship to us by any method, but we will use UPS when we ship to you.  If
  you send a hard drive or tape drive, be sure to package it properly
  and include the appropriate insurance. There will be a small
  additional shipping charge on drives, and we will insure them as
  appropriate.

  Call for additional services or if your data is not on tapes
  that we can read on out equipment.  Best time to call is
  8:30 AM - 5:30 PM eastern time Monday through Saturday.
  Try us any time if you need to call at other hours.
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From: ALAN FISHKIN                           Number: 6231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  2:39p
Subj: Cd Recording Service                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  CD ROM Recording Service:

  Send us QIC 80, QIC 40, Irwin, Colorado QFA 700, or 4mm DAT tapes, or
  any hard drive and get your files back on a CD readable in any CD ROM.

  Only $70.00 per CD.  Additional copies $45.00 each.

  CD will be readable in any CD ROM drive.
  We can also record your CD in CD ROM XA multi-session format so that
  you will be able to add more files to the CD at any later time.  This
  means you can delete file(s) or update any file(s) with a newer
  version.  All files, in all directories will appear in one volume the
  same as any single session CD. No extra charge for this service.  But
  there is a small loss of total capacity on the CD.

  Is your hard disk full?  Move your files to CD for a fraction of the
  cost of adding a hard drive.

  Also send us your WAV files, get back an audio CD with your WAV files
  converted to audio tracks, the same as any other audio CD.  Files
  should be 44.1 khz, 16 bit stereo. Other WAV formats will be converted
  for an additional charge. A CD holds up to 99 tracks.

  Our DAT drive is an Archive Python 2 Gig model 4320RT without hardware
  data compression/Decompression.  If you have the same drive, we only
  need your tape software.

  You may also send any tape drive, or hard drive. There will be an
  additional fee for hard drives or tape drives that require special
  handling, such as installing your controller.  We are set up for IDE
  and SCSI.

  Call for info.

          ------
  Send money order or check with your tapes to:

  Alan Fishkin
  20111 SW 114 Ave
  Miami, FL  33189      [phone]

  Include $5.00 for shipping and handling per CD.  Your tapes will be
  returned with your CD.  Add $5.00 additional for 2nd day air.  You may
  ship to us by any method, but we will use UPS when we ship to you.  If
  you send a hard drive or tape drive, be sure to package it properly
  and include the appropriate insurance. There will be a small
  additional shipping charge on drives, and we will insure them as
  appropriate.

  Call for additional services or if your data is not on tapes
  that we can read on out equipment.  Best time to call is
  8:30 AM - 5:30 PM eastern time Monday through Saturday.
  Try us any time if you need to call at other hours.
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From: NICK CHRISTOPHER                       Number: 6232
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/01/94  7:12a
Subj: Special Offer!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <05/24/94> Terry Blount wrote:

TB>           $8.95   *  Cream of the Crop vol 2  *   $8.95


Terry - I'm interested in this CD. Please call my BBS and leave
details: 717-637-3939 or 8929 to 14.4.  Thanks!

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From: NICK CHRISTOPHER                       Number: 6233
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 06/01/94  7:12a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Joe - please upload me a catalog! BBS ready CDs only please!
717-637-3939/717-637-8929 to 14.4 anytime.  Thanks much!

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From: NICK CHRISTOPHER                       Number: 6234
  To: RON ABLANG                               Date: 06/01/94  7:12a
Subj: Vacation&travel 916-635-4               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RA>Is this a great deal or what?

Is there a catch, or did you forget to post the price?

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From: NICK CHRISTOPHER                       Number: 6235
  To: THOMAS WONG                              Date: 06/01/94  7:12a
Subj: Dupes                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Tom ---

I saw your message in this echo to Mike Shannon re dupes on SVE and
NOWL12 -- do you have some kind of utility that can determine the dupe
rate among two or more CDs?  You don't actually go through ALLSFILES.LST
for both CDs manually, do you? If you do have a dupe checker
utility, I'd love to know what it is and save myself the trouble of
investigating CDs before I throw 'em online!

Thanks!!


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From: MICHAEL CROFTCHECK                     Number: 6236
  To: LONG KHUU                                Date: 05/31/94  8:57a
Subj: CD-ROM for swap                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LK│               I currently have T7G and Rebel Assault which I have complete
 LK│ I'm looking for Iron Helix, Strike Commander or TFX, or any other flight s
 LK│ CD, or as a matter of fact anything at all.  So if anyone wants a swap, pl
 LK│ leave a message.

I have a copy of Critical Path I'm trying to get rid of.  Would you be
intersted in trading Rebel Assault for it?

L8R
Mike
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From: LARRY SEDDON                           Number: 6237
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  7:34p
Subj: Re: Genealogy                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bryan Alexander to All <=-

 BA> I am looking for a source of CD-roms with genealogical
information,
 BA> ie. census records, birth and death notices, etc for sale or
rent.  I
 BA> would be grateful for any information you could supply.
--Bryan
 BA> Alexander

     I would also like anyone to post the above information.
... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: MICHAEL CROFTCHECK                     Number: 6238
  To: JONATHAN BLANK                           Date: 06/01/94  3:26p
Subj: Help! I need free cd-roms               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JB│ I had hoped.  I even enjoy the "promotional" disks such as DiscPatch, On
 JB│ Hand, etc.  Does anyone know where I can get some free "promotion-type"
 JB│ CD-ROMs?  I would be very grateful...

Well, I would recommend the MegaDemo that The Profit Group is currently
offering for $2.00 shipping.  It had a lot of stuff that was pretty old but
it also had lots of .wav files, some .fli animations, swimsuit .gifs and
other types of .gifs.  I think it was worth the $2.00.  To get more info
about it, send a message to Scott Huffman and he can tell you how to get
the disc.  I don't know of any other freebies but I can recommend Return To
Zork, The 7th Guest and Critical Path as being neat games. (Although I
wouldn't buy Critical Path at the store because it's to overpriced.  Buy it
used if you do.)

Hope this info helps you along.
L8R
Mike
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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 6239
  To: JONATHAN BLANK                           Date: 06/03/94  3:35a
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs for trade / swap!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jonathan,
I see you have the Corel Draw 4.0 CD, Would you be willin to trade that for:
Let's see what I have here..... Corel Art Show 4 (CD), The New Printshop
(S/W), The New Printshop Companion (S/W), Shareware Studio IV (CD) (Released
march 94), Printshop Deluxe (S/W), or Stellar 7 (CD).  If So Let me know what
you'd like, Leave me a number that I can reach you at and I'll get a hold of
you, Thanks, CJ

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From: DIANE PENCIL                           Number: 6240
  To: MARLINA MALONEY                          Date: 06/03/94 12:59a
Subj: Game blaster cd 16                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >    This type of information has it's good points and bad. It's good to
 > know
 >    so that buyers can ask them if an alternate company is being looked
 > into    for service contracts to maintain their warranties.
 >    On the other hand, a "rumor" passes very quickly thru the nets and
 > can
 >    drive a financially troubled company right over the brink.

Well considering it is in ALL the national publications and was announced by
Media Vision over 2 weeks ago, I think you're safe in assuming that the company
is in big financial trouble. Rumors are passed by people who think the know
something but aren't sure. It would be irresponsible to say that MediaVision is
about to go out of business. It is correct that MeidaVision is in big financial
trouble according to their own press release. That doesn't make their card any
less of a product only a mismanaged company.

Diane

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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6241
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  3:00p
Subj: ShareWare CD Discount!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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  Best Of BizznessWare.$12.95   MEGA WIN/OS 2..$9.00  Bundle Prices On Above
  Best Of Sites/Sounds.$12.95   SDN PLUS 1.....$9.00  Any 2 CD's For $21.95!
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  All 6 For $49.00 *=* MC/Visa *=-* 2-Day Shipping(Contiguous US) $6.00 *=*
     Orders:1-800-843-7990  Fax:[phone]  Info.:1-602-770-0000
      The Profit Group - 824 E. FT. Lowell Road - Tucson, AZ. 85719
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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  3:01p
Subj: ForBidden Subjects!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*   The Profit Group   *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 FORBIDDEN SUBJECTS - (The Original with Gross Graphics) - $39.00!
  # This disc has become so controversial with our advertisers that
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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  3:02p
Subj: Adult CD Titles!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *=-=*  Adult CD's  *=-=-=* The Profit Group *=-=*  BBS Ready  *=-=*
  FAO 1 - 651 MegaBytes (XXX) - $29.00 -------<  All 3   <   BONUS
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From: RON ABLANG                             Number: 6244
  To: NICK CHRISTOPHER                         Date: 06/02/94  4:54p
Subj: Vacation&travel 916-635-4               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > RA>Is this a great deal or what?

 > Is there a catch, or did you forget to post the price?

$79

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From: BILL KENDALL                           Number: 6245
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 05/30/94 12:43p
Subj: Re: enough already                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BF> I get tired of seeing all the "game hint" stuff too - that stuff
 BF> should be over

 BF> in GAMING echo....

     You must realize though that just because your BBS that you post from
has a gaming echo, not all of them do.  The board this message is from has
no gaming echos at all. I'm sure people would ask for hints in that echo if
their board carried it.

Bill


... <*>Spectrum<*> - New VGA for the new year -
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From: EDDIE IMPERIAL                         Number: 6246
  To: ROBERT RENFRO                            Date: 06/02/94  8:48p
Subj: New Cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WELL... I HAVE TOTAL FANT AND SOUTHERN BEAUT.... NOT SURE
ABOUT XXX EXT....

                                  THANX
                                    EDDIE
                                     713-437-0124

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From: JASON WANG                             Number: 6247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 10:13p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,
If anybody knows how to solve the 'Chess Puzzle' (with the Bishops),
please tell me. I refuse to go to the hint book for the solution because
it prevents me from getting a clue. If you are willing to help, drop me
a note.
                                            JW
By the way. . .if you haven't solved it yet, I fully understand. I have
spent more than six houres on the **** thing already.


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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 6248
  To: ADAM HIGGINS                             Date: 05/31/94  7:27p
Subj: HELL CAB FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Quoting ADAM HIGGINS to BILL KENDALL about HELL CAB FOR TRADE...

AH> I don't have any game s- I have AUS and World Atlas (on one CD), Software
AH> Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia Version5.0 (CD), Uninstaller for
Windows
AH> (non-CD), Simearth (non cd), Random House Dictionary and Thesaurus
(non-CD).
AH> Any of these interest you for a trade for Hell Cab?

I'll trade you hell cab for that uninstaller...If it has full box, dox, and
reg card.  (It's available new here for just over $30.)



Derek Stutsman : Author of WinWave


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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 6249
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/94  7:33p
Subj: Softbank On Hand CD Rom                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I thought I would put in a small review for Softbank's "On Hand" CD
collection.

This CD contains over 200 commercial programs you install right to your hard
drive, after paying via credit card and 800 number.

This is a REAL neat idea!  However:

The prices are _well_ above market value.

You get no docs or box...Just your disc (and maybe some E-docs.)

It's only $4.95, and you get a free version of WinCim with a $15 CI$ credit,
so it's worth it for that alone.

This would be a fantastic idea if only the prices were discounted to allow
for market value and lack of docs.



Derek Stutsman : Author of WinWave

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 6250
  To: TIM VAY                                  Date: 06/03/94  6:31a
Subj: Cd's For Sale Or Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tim - just wanted to let you know the check is on its way to you for the
classic books cd's.  Jerry

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From: SCOTT MAXWELL                          Number: 6251
  To: UUCP                                     Date: 06/03/94 10:28a
Subj: .                                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->1:1/31
To: [e-mail]

site ftp-os2.cdrom.com

 ■ KWQ/2 1.2d NR ■


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From: ED BOTWINIK                            Number: 6252
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 06/01/94 11:13p
Subj: CD Rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GC> Definitley get scsi.  this will ensure that your controller, at least,
 GC> won't be obsolete in a few years.  you can always upgrade. a pro-audio
 GC> spectrum 16 with a scsi interface is always a good bet.  wait about
 GC> three months until the quads come out, if you can.

  I'm not in a hurry, but when the quads come out, they'll probably be
  priced pretty high.  I may give it about three months *after* the
  quads come out.

    I have yet to see them advertised. But there's word (I think I was
reading PC Computing) that there are going to be CD-ROM's with an
IDE interface. Once again. I'd have to wait to see the price first.
Think one of those might be worthwhile?


... I either want less corruption or a chance to participate.
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From: PHILIP WANG                            Number: 6253
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 06/02/94 10:21p
Subj: Game Blaster Cd 16                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GC>NO! definitely get a media vision because ALL of their drives are scsi
GC>and include the controller.  the fusion kit, for example, includes the
GC>pro-audio spectrum 16 with a scsi interface.  scsi lets you upgrade in
GC>the future without having to pay for ANOTHER controller card.  The

        Aren't SCSI's known for incompatibility?  Isn't that how they
promoted SCSI2?  Also, could you recommend a SCSI2 drive and a SCSI2
card? (SCSI2 card known... SoundBlaster SCSI2 ~$179)


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From: PHILIP WANG                            Number: 6254
  To: MIKE NESTRUD                             Date: 06/02/94 10:34p
Subj: Working?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MN>ADD THE /E OPTION TO MSCDEX IN YOUR AUTOEXEC.BAT
MN>That will force mscdex to use expanded or extended memory, and therefore
MN>greatly increase your amount of available memory in dos.  Hope i have helped
MN>as i have seen MANY messages in this conference regarding memory problems w/
MN>cd-rom drivers.

        What do you mean by "greatly"?  Is it more than QEMM 7.0 can
provide (provided we use memmaker (DOS 6.2))


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6255
  To: RON COOPER                               Date: 05/30/94 12:25p
Subj: CD ROM GAMES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> >  Just to add insult, your immediately FOLLOWING post was yet
> > another "more than 10 line" ad.

>Please forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between this echo and
>the CD_SALE echo. Looks almost identical to me.

 This confrence limits ads to 10 lines MAXIMUM, and also targets information
content not just sales.

 I suspect that CDROM_SALE will eventually take over ALL of the ads, once it
gets better and longer established (it's only been around a few months or a bit
less), similar to the HDCONF/HDSALE split of several years ago....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6256
  To: DIANE PENCIL                             Date: 05/31/94  1:25p
Subj: HIFI SPEAKERS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I hope those aren't the ones
>that have the power saving "feature" that cuts off the speakers after a
certain
>amount of inactivity.

 Minimus-7's are non-powered speakers.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6257
  To: FRANCOIS DESROSIERS                      Date: 05/31/94  2:09p
Subj: SO-MUCH-WINDOWS/OS2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Do you know if there is a Cd-ROM that group a lots's of files from the
>Gutemberg project.

 Project Gutenburg, by Walnut Creek - in at least it's second revision (just
got
updated a couple of months back or so).


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6258
  To: ED HARFORD                               Date: 05/31/94  2:12p
Subj: WHAT'S BEST?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Many CD encyclopedias (e.g., Compton's) and medical advisors (e.g., Mayo
>Clinic) on the market.  Any of these better than the others?

 Depends on what you are looking for - some folks prefer one title, other folks
prefer another title.

 The Mayo stuff gets generally high marks, though Home Medical Advisor Pro and
Doctor's Book of Home Remidies and Family Doctor both have folks that prefer
them to Mayo.

 Encarta vs. Comptons vs. Groliers appears to depend mostly on WHAT you are
looking for in an encyclopedia....


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From: BILL LAWRENCE                          Number: 6259
  To: JEFF JERNEGAN                            Date: 06/02/94  6:12p
Subj: Re: cd roms for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jeff Jernegan to All <=-

 JJ> Got a CD-ROM drive w/ bundled CD software I don't need. For sale or
 JJ> trade:
 JJ> 7th Guest (unopened)                                     $30/obo
 JJ> (can be traded w/co for Mantis Experimental Fighter
 JJ> from MicroProse or Civilization from MicroProse,
 JJ> because the program is 'Not recommended for
 JJ> individuals under the age of 17' due to 'scenes
 JJ> of graphic violence and pure evil').
    Jeff I have Microprose Mantis and Civilization on one CD If you want to
    trade let me know here on the net or call.
                          Address Bill Lawrence
                                  2437 Capitol ave
                                  Orlando Fl 32818
                                  407-295-5813
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From: BILL LAWRENCE                          Number: 6260
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 06/02/94  6:12p
Subj: Re: cd's for trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Gervasi to All <=-

 MG> I have the following for trade.
 MG>
 MG> Microcosm (2CD set)
 MG> Critical Path

  Mike What is Microcosm and Critical Path??
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From: BILL LAWRENCE                          Number: 6261
  To: REID EARLS                               Date: 06/02/94  6:12p
Subj: Re: cd-rom games for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Reid Earls to All <=-

 RE> I am selling the following CD-ROM games because times are tough and I
 RE> need the cash:
 RE>
 RE> ****************************************
 RE> ****************************************
 RE> **                                    **
 RE> **  REBEL ASSUALT by LucasArts    $35 **
 RE> **  (In original box.  I will         **
 RE> **   include a diskette that          **
 RE> **   has v1.4 bug-fix and a           **
 RE> **   hints file. )                    **
 RE> **                                    **
 RE> **  MYST                          $35 **
 RE> **  (In original box)                 **
 RE> **                                    **
 RE> **  MegaRace                      $35 **
 RE> **  (In original box)                 **
 RE> **                                    **
 RE> ****************************************
 RE> ****************************************
    I will give you $75.00 for all. Let me know  e-mail or call me.
                          Bill Lawrence
                          2437 Capitol ave
                          Orlando Fl 32818
                          407-295-5813


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From: BILL LAWRENCE                          Number: 6262
  To: JONATHAN BLANK                           Date: 06/02/94  6:12p
Subj: Re: cd-roms for trade / s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jonathan Blank to All <=-

 JB> All-
 JB> I have a few CD-ROMs that I would be willing to trade for just
 JB> about any other CD-ROMs... (1 for 1)
 JB>

 JB> C) CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS (reviews on over 7,000 CD-ROMS..it's up-to-date!)

 JB> E) CORELDRAW VERSION 4.0 REV B *PATCH*
 JB> F) DOOM EPISODE 1: KNEE DEEP IN THE DEAD (virtual reality game..)
        I have: 1. Reference Library 2.Time Table of History. 3.Art History
        Emcyclopedia. 4. Nautilus. 5. Software Jukebox. 6.Selectware.
        If you want to trade for any of them e-mail me or call.
                        Bill Lawrence
                        2437 Capitol ave
                        Orlando Fl 32818
                        407-295-5813
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From: DAVID WRIGHT                           Number: 6263
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/94 12:44a
Subj: cd rom dir size                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was noticin the the other day that a couple of my cdroms had the exact same
size...I got to lookin and I found out no matter how big the entire cd is, the
directory <in Windows or Dosshell> reports 131,070. Yet on mega race, the
subdirectory is over 500m......What gives..anyone got any ideas? Is this a
software problem or a hardware problem?

<dang curiosity gonna get me whacked again...>

"****And now another fabulous tagline****"
Multitaskers do it everywhere: Concurrently!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6264
  To: STEVE CHAPMAN                            Date: 06/02/94 10:04p
Subj: Info On Cd Please                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SC:>MS> SC:>                     THE  MUSIC  MONSTER

SC:>MS> SC:>Now shipping! Check with your dealer or call! The "Music Monster
SC:>MS> SC:>is a HUGE  collection of  MIDI and MOD  music files!   In fact b
SC:>MS> SC:>far the  LARGEST collection  you  will find  anywhere.   This ne
SC:>MS> SC:>collection has 2,300+ MIDI files and over  2,500 MOD music files
SC:>MS> SC:>All types of music from classical to country to rock to jazz.

SC:>MS> We have them in stock at $23.20.

SC:>You did not include the postal air mail price to Australia.

Insured air would be $13.50.  Uninsured would be $6.50.

SC:>Some sort of Form to fill in for VISA Payment.

No form needed......just write it on a piece of paper, complete with
expiration date.  Alternately, you could d/l or freq our STARCAT.ZIP
catalog, and use the order form within.

In stock now!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 509-457-2892
 FAX [phone] * BBS 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX  $7.95

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6265
  To: BEN HARMON                               Date: 06/02/94 10:05p
Subj: Night Owl 12...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BH:>> AL:>(Oh, and BTW: So when is Night Owl going to learn to clean up their a
BH:>> AL:>Take a look at the disc... in an hour and a half of playing with it,
BH:>>found commercial program, 1 "hacked" shareware program, and the names of
qu
BH:>> AL:>different notorious-for-software-piracy groups throughout the files..
BH:>MS> YEESH

BH:>Yo... mind telling us the names of the commercial and hacked files? It
BH:>would save me some work as I just ordered NO12.

I didn't write that, so I wouldn't know.

Sorry,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6266
  To: MARCOS BROLIO                            Date: 06/02/94 10:05p
Subj: 5' 10-Paks Now In                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB:>MS> INTERNET INFO * Covers almost every subject about the
Internet......$17.

MB:>I'm interessed for these above.
MB:>How i pay to you ??

You can pay by any major credit card, or by bank check or money order in
U.S. funds.  Please include $15 for insured airmail, or $5 for uninsured.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 509-457-2892
 FAX [phone] * BBS 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * FEDEX  $7.95

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6267
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 10:05p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT EMERALD!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

+-------------|  Title:   SOFTWARE VAULT EMERALD   $17.50   |-------------+
|   * The FIRST "ALL 94" shareware CD!  No files older than 1/94.         |
|   * Over 50 categories to choose from * The Librarian user interface    |
|     with DOS and Windows versions * ROMDOOR utility built in for easy   |
|     BBS setup * Fully BBS-ready * BEST color cover on the market!       |
|   * 600+ megabytes * 5000+ files * File listing available: VAULTEMR.ZIP |
|  2-CD SET:    Software Vault Platinum + Emerald......(NO dupes!)....$34 |
|  3-CD SET:    Add Software Vault Gold..........(still NO dupes!)....$49 |
|  SPECIAL PAK: Cream of the Crop 2 & 3 + Software Vault Emerald......$44 |
 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H...$4.95

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6268
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 10:05p
Subj: FREE LOTTERY TICKETS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 $ $    F R E E    WASHINGTON STATE LOTTERY TICKETS W/ CD PURCHASE!    $ $

Just mention this ad to receive FREE Washington State lottery tickets with
your next CD-ROM order of $50 or more from Starvector!  Order $50 or more
in CD titles at our regular prices and receive ONE free Lottery ticket.
Order $100 or more, and receive TWO!  You MUST mention this ad to receive
your free tickets, and there is a maximum of TWO free tickets per order.
What's more...you can redeem any and all LOSING tickets directly with us
for a $1 ea. credit on your next CD order by mail!  Call us...it's FUN!

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 509-457-2892

 * SLMR 2.1a * ... A fool and his money soon become a Sysop!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6269
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 10:05p
Subj: GABRIEL KNIGHT...$28.40                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Conspiracy (NEW)..............29.20    Playing w/ Language: English..22.90
 Cream of the Crop 3 (NEW).....21.90    Profiles of Colleges..........28.50
 Critical Path (NEW)...........30.20    Project Gutenberg 7/93........13.90
 Gabriel Knight (NEW)..........28.40    Software Vault 1..............12.80
 Game Master...................18.90    Software Vault Emerald (NEW)..17.50
 HIV/AIDS Resource Guide (NEW).11.00    Technotools...................11.00
 Hobbes OS/2 3/94..............12.90    Tempra Access Photo Software..12.90
 Mad Giveaways & Freebies......18.10    Wrath of the Demon............20.80
 Magic Death (NEW).............17.70    X11R5/GNU.....................23.40
 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 11176 * YAKIMA WA 98909 * ORDERS 800-801-ROMS
 INFO 509-457-2892 * FAX [phone] * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H...$4.95

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From: GEORGE IZUMI                           Number: 6270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94 10:10a
Subj: adult cd rom law                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a lawyer that is knowledgeable in mail order of adult oriented
material.

We are importing Japanese CD ROM titles but some of the tiles contain material
that may be offensive or outright illegal in the US.

We would like to know what the guidelines are for such titles.

Rape, SM, violence, and underage type stuff is all out of course, but what
about the suggestion of young age?  Like a high school uniform or things
like that?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks


... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 6271
  To: GARY QUINTON                             Date: 06/03/94 12:08a
Subj: Catalogue                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Gary!

28 May 94, Gary Quinton writes to Steve Mann:

 GQ> Actually, now that you mention it (without mentioning any other names
 GQ> <G>) I haven't seen any adverse about yerself... What would it take to
 GQ> get a catalogue of yours? I run a pooty shop in Melbourne, and I buy a
 GQ> few titles for people who don't like any of the sample disks, or who
 GQ> want to start up a library straight away...

You can d/l a plain text version from our BBS or leave your postal address and
we'll send one to you.

Steve

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From: RICHARD SEELEY                         Number: 6272
  To: DU LAM                                   Date: 06/02/94 10:39p
Subj: cd-rom help!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


In a message of (29 May 94  07:42:42), Du Lam wrote to All:

DL>     *Mitsumi internal double speed FX001D

Do you like the CD-Rom drive? I was looking at that model as a possible.

Rich
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From: THOMAS WONG                            Number: 6273
  To: NICK CHRISTOPHER                         Date: 06/03/94  3:02p
Subj: Dupes                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Nick!

Wednesday June 01 1994 07:12, Nick Christopher wrote to Thomas Wong:

 NC> Hi Tom -+-

 NC> I saw your message in this echo to Mike Shannon re dupes on SVE and
 NC> NOWL12 -- do you have some kind of utility that can determine the dupe

     Yup... I have it here available for freq CDDA10.ZIP which is a CDROM
 Duplicates Analyzer v1.0! Takes two allfiles.lst or whatever the cdrom file
 listing is called and produces the dupe files, dupe rate (%) etc... works
really well but the only handicap seems to be its ability to read only *2*
 file lists at one time.

 NC> rate among two or more CDs?  You don't actually go through ALLSFILES.LST
 NC> for both CDs manually, do you? If you do have a dupe checker
 NC> utility, I'd love to know what it is and save myself the trouble of
 NC> investigating CDs before I throw 'em online!

 NC> Thanks!!

     With multiple cdrom released almost every three months, it gets pretty
hard to choose which one to buy doesn't it? oh btw- you might want to check if
CDDA10.ZIP could be found in some Calif bbs's before freq'ing it here
 from Calgary, AB. It may save some long distance eh? ttyl.

 NC>  * SLMR 2.1a * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY?

 NC> -+- FastEcho beta
 NC>  + Origin: PACIFIC COAST MICRO, So. Calif. HST-16.8k 805-494-9386
 NC> (1:102/1001)

Thomas

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From: CINDY OLSEN                            Number: 6274
  To: OLIVER WADE                              Date: 05/24/94  5:22p
Subj: chat                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

OW> Hey Cindy.  Where ya been? Thought may I had misunderstood
OW> which board you were going to switch to.  Drop me a note.

Hi Oliver!  I just logged on especially to chat with you!  I wanted to let you
know I'm still working on your game.  Also, after seeing all your graphics,
I've started experimenting a bit on my own with doing some graphics screens.
I'm surprised how easy it is to animate the screens.  All ya have to do is draw
over something with the background color to "erase" it and move a little bit
and redraw it.  It looks like it's moving when you do that.  As good as you are
with graphics, you ought to fool around with animating your screens a little
bit.

I also discovered that when you chained your files together, you specified the
(I think it was) A drive.  You don't have to specify the drive, although you
can, but if you don't, then it just assumes you mean the current drive.  You
could go back thru your game taking out the drive specification in all your
chain commands and the game would run on whatever the current drive is!

Have you been doing any more programming?  Are you familiar with the DRAW
command?  If you are, could you tell me how to paint an area using DRAW?  I
tried drawing a pinwheel and wanted to fill it with a different color.  I
included the "P1, 0" at the end of the DRAW statement and made sure the curser
was in the middle of the object I wanted to paint, but it paints the whole
screen instead of just the object.  I sure would appreciate any help.

Have you gotten my other messages?  I've written to you on this board a couple
of times.  Maybe my messages aren't getting to you.  I'll keep writing anyway
and if you don't seem to be getting them, I'll ask the sysop to track them down
for you.

Chat atcha later...

Cindy

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From: OLIVER WADE                            Number: 6275
  To: CINDY OLSEN                              Date: 05/25/94  5:44p
Subj: chat                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Cindy  Glad to be gabbing with you again.  Yeah,I discovered already that if
I remove the drive from the chain statement everything works o.k.  As for the
draw statement you are probably leaving a gap in the drawing and if this is so
the colors will fill the entire screen because there is no definite boundary.
It may be a bit longer to do but I start my draw statement with a pset in the
color I want the outline then when the drawing is finished use the origional
pset set coordinates in a PAINT statement.  I hope this helps you. I won't be
talking to you for about a week.  Goint to the mountains to see my family in
virginia.  Benn about two years since I've seen them and mama is eighty now.
Wow,you are really going grat guns on this game thing.  My ego is going to
overcome what little common sense I have left.  I AM flattered.  Will call you
a few lines when I get back.

... Why did CNN cancel that cool "Desert Storm" show?
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 6276
  To: JAMES HO                                 Date: 06/02/94  5:42a
Subj: Software Toolworks and Gr               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH> I got confused about two CDs they are,
JH> Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia and Gorlier.  What's
JH>the difference?

As long as they are the same edition, there is no difference other
than the name. Software Toolworks does world marketing for Grolier.
In essence Grolier does the encyclopedia, STW does the marketing,
including their own label which now has been dropped.

How do I know? I've got several at least several copies of each --
along with a bunch of others. Cheers!
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6277
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 06/03/94  9:04p
Subj: Myst and Rebel Assault!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Geoffrey,
    Well thanks but no thanks. I had a Discman and hated it because it
skipped toooooooo much! Well thanks anyway!

                   Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 6278
  To: CHARLIE STRAKER                          Date: 06/03/94  9:05p
Subj: Re: Games for sale or tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Charlie,
    I Live in TN so call me and arrange the stuff

    615-728-7383

                   Better call fast because Myst is gonna go like
hotcakes!
                   Sam Figueroa

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From: KIM PIERSON                            Number: 6279
  To: MATHIEU NOTERIS                          Date: 06/03/94  8:41p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest ...... HELP NEEDED !      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 29 May 94 10:05am, Mathieu Noteris wrote to All:

>     Playing 7th Guest, I'm now in the lab and desesperately trying to
>     solve the microscope puzzle.

>     As you can imagine (if you are not a 7th Guest player) or as you
>     already know (if you are a 7th Guest player), this is the most
>     difficult one .... I'm trying to solve it for 2 weeks now.

According to the hint book....there is no hint for this puzzle.....


Kim Pierson

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From: STEPHEN DYASON                         Number: 6280
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/23/94  9:46a
Subj: Cdi, Mpeg & Reelmagic Vid               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello everybody,

 At the recent National Computor Show of SA, as well as the May94
 edtition of 'Computor Shopper', a company called Sigma has showed
 off a new video compression card called 'ReelMagic'. The demo at the
 show was very impressive, as normal audio CD's for instance 'The Jazz
 Singer', Niel Diamond, could be played as normal through a CD-Rom,
 except the live show could be seen at 30 frames per second full screen
 1024 by 768 at 32k colours.  Very impressive.

 Even more, movies such as 'The hunt for Red October' could be seen
 played through the CD-Rom.  Aparantly the musical CD's live, uses MPEG
 compression.  Good, so most CD-Roms can handle.     BUT, I have been
 informed that to be able to run the movies, one needs a CD-I  CD-Rom,
 for ie Sony 32, or whatever they bundle if you buy a bundle from them.
 This requirement is also expressed as XA Class 2 chapter 2, or White &
 Green book complaint!

 Is the Nec 84-J, or the CDR 8VM, CDI complaint??  What drives exactly
 are complaint??  Can someone please tell me where I could source these
 CDs?

Regards,
   Stephen Dyason.

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From: RYAN BROWN                             Number: 6281
  To: SALVATORE SALAMONE                       Date: 06/01/94  1:12a
Subj: *                                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SS>Hiya All

SS>I have CD32, can I able to read IBM CD PD prgs + copy to my HD?
SS>I know there is a hardware coming that connects CD32 to the Amiga as a
SS>CD-ROM.

Nope, CD32 is a 680x0 based machine, and the CD-Rom's on the PC have
been programmed on intel CPU.
They also use different formats..

SS>There are XXX CD Videos available for the IBM, will it work on the
SS>CD32???

XXX CD's just for the CD32 will come out, but XXX CD's for the PC again
will not work.sorry!, remember the CD-ROM for the PC has been around
longer than the CD32, so just wait longer. Best place to buy XXX CD's is
overseas.

SS>Your answer will greatly appreciated...
SS>Catchu's later...

The list of compatible's, for the CD32.
CD32 games
CDTV games
Audio disks
CD-G with some hardware of course.
Not *ANY* PC disk's.

Programmers may use spare CD disk space to insert the code for the CD32, but
u maynot see that happen yet..

We have a CD32 at home.
Ring Micro-world (Auckland) on 0508-Amigas and ask them for there latest
catalogue..

-Ryan Brown

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From: NICHOLAS CHUNG                         Number: 6282
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94  2:09p
Subj: Sale                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, I got two CD Roms for sale:
1. MS Dinosaurs, in very new condition, NZ$50
2. PC Sig Version 11, also in new condition, NZ$25
....
If interested, please ring Bulldogs' House BBS, 649-630-5286 and ask the sysop
please!
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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 6283
  To: NATHAN LEWIS                             Date: 06/01/94 11:16a
Subj: Re: Free CD! Canada Too!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Nathan Lewis to Scott Huffman <=-

 NL> Big rip off.  I looked on the package
 NL> you  sent me this in, and it only cost
 NL> you $.52  to send it to me.  And I live
 NL> halfway across the US!!!  (Wisconsin)
 NL> Not exacly free.
Notice, it says the charge is for "shipping and handling", not for "postage".
That charge ALSO covers the packaging, the time somebody spent pulling the
order, the time somebody spent entering and verifying the order, and the
time somebody spent addressing the packaging.
It probably also goes a little way towards paying the rent on the warehouse
that holds it.

Given that CD-ROMs cost money to press, and master, just how much margin do
you think there is in a disc that costs $2.50 shipped?





... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 6284
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 06/01/94 11:21a
Subj: Re: What about a CD for L               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Pedro Vieira to All <=-

 PV> I've got an Epson ActionNote 4000 Laptop and I wanna attach to
 PV> it a CD-ROM drive. Well, is it possible?

 PV> Does it exist a CD-ROM drive to be connected on a Laptop
 PV> machine?

Yes, I have seen advertised CD-ROM drives which can be attached via the
parallel port.  But it would be slow.  For a CD-ROM, that says something.

You will NOT get multimedia-type performance, but huge file collections,
like shareware discs, would be fine.


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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 6285
  To: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                          Date: 06/03/94  4:41a
Subj: Packaging of CD-ROMs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>May I suggest something simpler to you both? Try the slip cases
JC>for the 5.25 inch discs. They are very effective, protective,
JC>convenient and should cost you no more than a question to someone
JC>who uses that size disk. Cheers!

GC>great idea. Thanks,

You are welcome, Geoffrey. You will find that discs aren't quite as
fragile as most people think. You still have to treat them with
some care but having your slaves place them on silk pillows isn't
really necessary. Should something happen then most reputable
publishers will replace a damaged disc either for free or for
a modest payment to cover shipping. They probably will ask you
to send the damaged disc to them.

That last bit is only information from other users and from
talking to a number of publishers, not personal experience.
I've had cdrom for some time now, have a couple of hundred
discs, have never used caddies, use the floppy slip covers
when necessary, use reasonable care and so far have never
had a problem.

My next project is to use a couple of discs as coffee coasters
for a while to see just how much they can take. Might even try
that Frisbee thing. Cheers!
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From: MICHAEL CROFTCHECK                     Number: 6286
  To: DAVID LEIVA                              Date: 06/03/94  9:47a
Subj: CD'S FOR TRADE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DL│ Rebel Assault
 DL│
 DL│ I am looking for Myst, Cinemania 94 and Sam and Max. I am willing to
 DL│ consider any offer.

Would you be willing to trade Rebel Assault for Critical Path?  If
interested leave me a message.

Thanks
Mike
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From: GEOFF BLAKE                            Number: 6287
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94 12:41p
Subj: Cd-Roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I own one there great the only problem is there "READ ONLY" it is really a
bummer cause you cant copy them, unless you want to take up a whole hard
drive. does any one have a CD master disk creator??
                        Geoff

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From: GEOFF BLAKE                            Number: 6288
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/94 12:43p
Subj: trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll trade
Rebel Asault
and the Gateway Online mall


    Any one want to make an offer??
                   Geoff

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From: RICH DECK                              Number: 6289
  To: MATHIEU NOTERIS                          Date: 06/03/94 10:56a
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MN>  RE> It says that at the opening screen of 7th Guest at the ouija board you
MN>  RE> should type in "ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX" and you should hear
MN>  RE> "Groovy,Groovy,Groovy".

It doesn't work on mine either.. <shrug>

tC

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From: RICHARD KELLER                         Number: 6290
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 06/02/94 11:24a
Subj: For Sale!?!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GP>Maybe YOU get plenty of sources for CD-ROMs, living in the USA, but
  >there's a lot of us outside the USA that get the most of our information
  >about new discs and sale pricing (outside the markets we LIVE in) from
  >this echo.

GP>I do agree that it's sorta gotten out of hand, but instead of
  >eliminating for-sale items (and since this IS a worldwide echo) I think
  >a lot of the problem could be reduced by the following:


I agree with what you stated BUT also eliminate public replies to sale
items and catalogs.  If someone REALLY wants a catalog or CD, they
shouldn't mind the phone call or sending a letter.

Why don't people just add the CD FOR SALE conference to their lists
and get out of here ?  Whats the sense in a SPECIFIC CD sale conference
if noone picks it up.

Don't even try the poor excuse people gave, that noone picks up that
conference as almost EVERY dealer that I see here, is there also.

I solved part of the problem by adding TO and FROM "some" dealers here
to my twit filter.  Just adding Joe Rinehart to the list eliminated 1/5
of the useless posts.  I got very tired of EVERY single time I
downloaded a QWK packet and went to the CD conference, the first 1-5
posts were from or to him.  I kid you not.  Now I see no advertisements
except when I want to.



                                Richard Keller

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From: JOHN MOONEY                            Number: 6291
  To: ROB HOOD                                 Date: 06/04/94 12:35a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE OR TRADE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


>Sorry, for another $11.00  I could get the version 6. Thanks for the response
>tho.
>
>

    Say Again?  Is this the '94 edition (version 6) from Groliers?  Where
did you see this price? From a dealer?
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From: JOHN MOONEY                            Number: 6292
  To: LARRY GOFORTH                            Date: 06/04/94 12:41a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITTANICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


>World Book does have one though.

    Where have you seen World Book encyclopedia advertised?
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From: JOHN MOONEY                            Number: 6293
  To: RON LOTTERMANN                           Date: 06/04/94 12:46a
Subj: LOOM                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


>You need to use the untwist spell.

    Where do you pick up that draft? Can you give us the notes?
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From: JOHN MOONEY                            Number: 6294
  To: TIM VAY                                  Date: 06/04/94  1:01a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



>-> TV>    Microsoft Bookshelf is about 199.00 and has alot of great
>-> TV>information in it. almost a must have. 25.00 will get it.
>-> TV> Tim

    Do you have more than one copy?  If not, what is the year of issue?
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From: JACKIE BRAGG                           Number: 6295
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 06/02/94  6:52p
Subj: Where at?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Re: ****HELP! WHICH ONE DO I

> I'm currently getting the double-speed caddyless Panasonic for $156 with
> controller, cables, and driver (and that one supports up to four drives on
> one card).
>
> And just yesterday I bought six new Philips caddyless (single-speed)
> drives with controller and cables for $65 each... only about half again


     Where are you getting these at?  I wouldn't mind getting a couple.


Jackie Bragg

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From: JACKIE BRAGG                           Number: 6296
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 06/02/94  7:06p
Subj: Send Me One!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Re: !free 2200+ cd's catalog!

> >For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
> Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
> Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:  2@2659
> Satisfaction guaranteed....
>             ALL MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED
> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.9831 24hrs
> P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
> Internet: [e-mail]       |>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<
> NORTH AMERICAN TOLL-FREE ORDERS 1.800.6CONFIG (626.6344)  24HOURS 7DAYS

  Send a copy to :   Jackie Bragg -  PO Box 63 Mabscott, WV 25871



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From: DOUGLAS MARSHALL                       Number: 6297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/94 10:29p
Subj: SELL OR TRADE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Iam done with the following games if anybody wants any of the them,
        all with original boxes and manuals.



Day of the Tentacle (cd) w/hintbook  $35
Sam & Max: hit the road (cd) w/hintbook $35
Indiana Jones:Fate of Atlantis (cd) w/hintbook $35
Return to Zork (cd) w/hintbook $35
Myst (cd) $35
The Journeyman Project (cd) $30
Mad Dog McCree (cd) $25
King's Quest 6 (cd) $25

Or will trade for the following:

Megarace (cd)
Iron Helix (cd)
The Horde (cd)
Hell Cab (cd)
Quantum Gate (cd)
Tie Fighter (cd)
Under A Killing Moon (cd)
Links 386 Pro (cd)

If you're interested Leave a message.

                        Doug.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 6298
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  9:05a
Subj: TOSHIBA SCSI CDROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Toshiba XM-3201B CDROM Drive  !! NEW !!

  Includes Caddy and Manual.  325ms access, 156k transfer rate.
  30 day warranty.  Work great.  MPC standard compliant.  True
  Standard SCSI Interface (not proprietary).  Dip switches for
  ID setting and parity/arbitration.  Internal 5.25 Half Height
  1.5 Meg Sec Burst.
  ..$130.00  Only 1 left.

205-837-5053 voice
205-721-0189 fax


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From: ROBERT MINVIELLE                       Number: 6299
  To: KEVIN HAMANN                             Date: 06/03/94  9:47a
Subj: Re: doom                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Kevin Hamann wrote in a message to Robert Minvielle:
KH>  Depends...if it's like the NEC CDR-25BJ and it's hooked to
KH> a normal  SCSI adapter the standard NEC driver ought to

    Ok...the standard NEC drivers from OS/2 are really bad (I think
    its just that the model is not listed...didn't have it then?)
    I was jsut looking for a newer one for it for OS/2...
    Thanks

KH> know the FREQ  addresses.  I do know Mediavision and IBM's
KH> boards are just the  price of a phone call though.

    Do u have the number where I can call thier bbs???


Home of the: You Got The BFG9000!
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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 6300
  To: ED BOTWINIK                              Date: 06/03/94  3:56p
Subj: CD Rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB> GC> Definitley get scsi.  this will ensure that your controller,
EB>at least, GC> won't be obsolete in a few years.  you can always
EB>upgrade. a pro-audio GC> spectrum 16 with a scsi interface is
EB>always a good bet.  wait about GC> three months until the quads
EB>come out, if you can.

EB>  I'm not in a hurry, but when the quads come out, they'll
EB>probably be  priced pretty high.  I may give it about three months
EB>*after* the  quads come out.

EB>    I have yet to see them advertised. But there's word (I think I
EB>was reading PC Computing) that there are going to be CD-ROM's with
EB>an IDE interface. Once again. I'd have to wait to see the price
EB>first. Think one of those might be worthwhile?

I definitely think waiting would be worthwhile.  Tell me what you
decide.

Geoffrey Cylwik }:->


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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6301
  To: SAM CLARK                                Date: 06/03/94 10:43a
Subj: Adult CD's $12.95 & UP!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Sam!

SC>Scott,
SC>        I recently ordered 2 cd's from your company..
SC>Ordered them Ground Transportation to save a little on the
SC>cost of delivery..

 Sounds like I need to have a little talk to the phone personnel here.
 As soon as they become aware that you have seen our ads via Fidonet,
 they should inform you that you get 2-Day shipping for the cost of
 ground.

SC>Couldn't be happier with the quality of the cd's or the cost.. For 31

 Great Sam! You have now officially joined The Profit Group.

SC>The part that impressed me
SC>the most was the fact that I ordered them at 2:00 pm in the
SC>afternoon on a Thursday and received them before lunch the
SC>next day...

 Yes, the carrier service we use has done a great job for us.
 I would say that 50% of our 2-Day deliveries actually get
 to their destinations overnight.

SC>        Again, I couldn't be happier. Keep up the good work
SC>and you can expect to see more of my business in the
SC>future..

 Thanks Sam. If I can be of further service drop me a note.

 Scott Huffman
 The Profit Group
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From: SCOTT HUFFMAN                          Number: 6302
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/94  4:05p
Subj: Free CDROM Disc! Canada                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*  FREE CDROM DISC OFFER  *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
  Do Not Call Our 1-800 number for this offer! This offer is ONLY
  valid in the Contiguous United States And Canada! Yes, Canada too!
  How do I get the FREE CDROM Disc? Mail the S/H charges to us at:
  The Profit Group - 824 E. Ft. Lowell Rd. - Tucson, AZ. 85719
  Shipping/Handling Charges:     Contiguous U.S. - $2.00
                                 Canada          - $3.00
  Payment can be Personal Check (Drawn On US Bank),
  Money Order, Cashier's Check, or, if you dare....US Currency.
  Sorry, MasterCard and Visa will not be accepted for this offer.
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From: WALT KOENIG                            Number: 6303
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 06/01/94  5:37p
Subj: !Free 2200+ Cd'S Catalog!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>>For 2200+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>Please e-mail your request for a printed copy to:
JR>Fido: 1:157/479.0 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV:


hello Joe, please send a catalog to the following address:

    Walt Koenig
    1004 Beechglen DR
    Chula Vista, CA 91910-6640

thanks
        wdk
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From: RON ABLANG                             Number: 6304
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/94  7:25a
Subj: deal?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello everyone.  I am a RA 2.01+ sysop and I just cashed in on a ZOOM
24K sysop deal not too long ago for the meager price of $105, and
came with a 7 year warranty.

They have modem deals for sysops.  My question is, do they have hard
drive deals or cd-rom deals for sysops?
916-635-4157

P.S.  I hear that DOS 5.0 has a limit on the amount of hard drive space
it will recognize.  518mb.  Is that the total amount of hard drive space
it will recognize over many hard drives, or just one?  And how do sysops
with 540mb or 1.2 gig hard drives compensate for this?

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From: CHERYL SWIFT                           Number: 6305
  To: STEVE MARTINDALE                         Date: 06/01/94 11:43p
Subj: CD-Rom that won't read a certain disk   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks Steve.  It's all so verrrry interesting.  I suggested something like
that to the dealer I bought the computer from and he poo-pooed the idea.  I
think he wants me to upgrade!!

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From: JIM KEHO                               Number: 6306
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/94 10:11a
Subj: The Lawnmower Man door codes?           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have the 'odd one out' door codes for Lawnmower Man CD? Or any
hints?? Please let me know! Thanks!


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From: GEOFFREY CYLWIK                        Number: 6307
  To: PHILIP WANG                              Date: 06/04/94  3:23a
Subj: Game Blaster Cd 16                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

sorry, I can't help recommending any other scsi2 cd-rom drive other that the
necx3 and does not give TRUE triple speed performance.  }:< oh well.
The sb16 w/ scsi2 would be, in my opinion, the best one out there, in terms of
sound card/SCSI2 Interface.  Well, I hope I've been able to help you out in
making a purchasing decision.  Well, at least in terms of the Soundcard,  that
sb16scsi2.  Good luck in making a decision!
Regards,
Geoffrey Cylwik

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From: JAMES DOMENGEAUX                       Number: 6308
  To: DAVID TANIGUCHI                          Date: 06/01/94  7:20p
Subj: Cd's For Sale Or Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DT> Hi James, I was wondering if you still have the CD's for sale. Let
DT> me know. David Taniguchi

Wrong guy David.


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From: TONY QUACH                             Number: 6309
  To: CRAIG WANG                               Date: 06/03/94  2:40a
Subj: Re: cd-rom games for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would you consider a trade for King's Quest 6 or some adult CD titles for
MegaRace? please reply, thanks...

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From: TONY QUACH                             Number: 6310
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 06/03/94  2:42a
Subj: Re: CD's For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi robert,
yeah, the 2 adult CD's are La Traviata and Sakura. They're both discs
containing xxx gifs. the last adult title is 4 .AVI pornos. Each of them is
at least 30 minutes long!!!

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From: TONY QUACH                             Number: 6311
  To: JEFF JERNEGAN                            Date: 06/03/94  2:43a
Subj: Re: CD's For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi jeff,
cool, the 7th guest will do just fine. please tell me what you want? one of
the adult titles or King's Quest 6? please reply ASAP thanks...

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From: TONY QUACH                             Number: 6312
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/94  2:48a
Subj: wanted: MYST                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi everyone,
i was wondering if anyone would want to trade MYST with me for REBEL ASSAULT?
please reply if you're interested. thanks..

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 6313
  To: MATHIEU NOTERIS                          Date: 06/03/94 10:21p
Subj: average file date on cd's               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mathieu Noteris wrote in a message to Terry Blount:

 TB>  I've just  finished  laboring  several  hours  writing a  program
 TB>  that would scan a cd rom disc  and  calculate  the  average  file
 TB>  date of that disc.

MN> This program does interest me very much. Could mail me a
MN> copy (if you accept to share it, of course) :

You can request this file (AvgAge.zip) from me at 1:3625/441

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From: BRIAN NASH                             Number: 6314
  To: JIM SMITH                                Date: 06/02/94  4:40p
Subj: Cd-rom For A Bbs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JS>I need to know what is the best shareware CD-ROM for a PCBoard BBS.  I need
JS>around balance of programs.  Something that will suit many of my users.
JS>You hear all the hype on the different CD-ROMS and I just don't know which t
JS>choose.

       I saw your request for CD-ROMs. If you have access to it,
you can look in the CD-ROM Conference for my catalog of low-priced CD-ROM
Software. If you can't get it, reply back to me and I'll forward one to you.


Sincerely,

Brian Nash
Computer SoftShop
P.O. Box 3701
Omaha, Ne. 68103
[phone]
1-9pm Mon-Fri CST
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From: BRIAN NASH                             Number: 6315
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 06/02/94  4:40p
Subj: Red Shift                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF> LF>Anyone familiar with this disc? Especially interested in comments from
LF> LF>professional or serious amateur astronomers.

LF> BN> I have a customer who bought this disk from me, and he thinks it's
LF> BN> great! His main hobby is astronomy, so I guess he would know. If

LF> Any chance you could get in touch with him and ask him to send a
LF> detailed review (assuming he's on Fidonet or Internet)? My husband is
LF> particularly interested in whether the disc attaches technical info
LF> about the objects it displays.

No, he's not on the echo. And I don't know enough about it to say.
Sorry.

Sincerely,

Brian Nash
Computer SoftShop
P.O. Box 3701
Omaha, Ne. 68103
[phone]
1-9pm Mon-Fri CST

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From: THORSTEN KORN                          Number: 6316
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/94  8:57p
Subj: yellowpoint                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo Leute,
ich habe seit einiger Zeit die Yellowpoint-CD. Nun habe ich im Spiegel
gelesen, daß man die Schlüsselcodes bzw. ein Knachprogramm downloaden kann.
Auch im FIDO-NET sollen die Codes rumschwirren. Hat irgendjemand 'ne
Vorstellung, wo man diese bekommen kann?

In diesem Sinne...

Tschö

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From: PIERRE LESSARD                         Number: 6317
  To: SCOTT HUFFMAN                            Date: 06/04/94  7:51a
Subj: 5 Cd's For $25.00!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > PL>        What about shipping in Quebec, Canada?

 >  UPS Ground - $16.00    Express Mail - $25.00

        Can you send it via regular US mail? It would be less expensive for me.
16$ US converted in CDN that makes lots of money just for 5 discs. If the
shipping could be less I would probaly buy them right now.

 >  You actually get your best deal when you order up to 10
 > items as the rates quoted are good for up to that amount.

        Yes, but I don't need that much...

        Think about it, for your foreign customer, it would be creat to do
future business at low shipping cost.

Aurevoir,

-- Pl

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From: PIERRE LESSARD                         Number: 6318
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/94  7:51a
Subj: Bbs Ready Cd-rom                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello!

        I'm interested in all kind of BBS READY CD-ROM SHAREWARE. Please
        send me all your catalog at:

        MEGA BAB
        PIERRE LESSARD
        2400, 121E RUE
        ST-GEORGES, QUEBEC
        CANADA, G5Y 8A2

-- Pl

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From: LUIS NEVES                             Number: 6319
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/94  6:00p
Subj: SegaCD X PC                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      Hello all, I would like to know if it is possible to use a
      CD from SegaCD in a PC with a CD-ROM drive.
                        []s, Luis Neves

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From: WANDERLEY PAIVA                        Number: 6320
  To: CHERYL SMITH                             Date: 06/02/94 10:11p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
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On 24 May 94 10:07pm, Blair Colbey wrote to Cheryl Smith:

Hello Cheryl...  sorry for  my  interruption  and...  Let's go to
business  !!!!   (sorry  for  my  BAD  ENGLISH...   I  just speak
Portuguese !!!)

CS>    I'm also having problems getting through The 7th Guest. I'm stuck on
CS>two puzzles at the moment. Does anyone know the answer to the can puzzle
CS>in the kitchen? The other one I am having problems with is the bishop
CS>puzzle in one of the upstairs bedrooms. Please help me figure them out.

Well, I have the whole solve  for T7G...  if you wanna more hints,
please... SCREAM :-)))))

Bedroom: Bishops Puzzle
First off, realize that the bishops on the black squares and the bishops
on the white squares do not interact in any way.  What I am about to
write is a set of instructions for the white squares.  Once you have
done that, you will have to change the nu